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July 01, 2015, 05:52:44 PM
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Just know people want change.

And if change is going to happen, bitcoin needs to be there to do it. I dont see any other form doing this, so the valuation despite greeces horrible never ending story. Bitcoin will increase because thats the only option.

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July 01, 2015, 06:28:26 PM
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Bitcoin is massively undervalued and the football cannot be held under water any longer. There will be no next dead cat bounce. It is time for another breakout and all the paid trolls have suddenly disappeared. That's because their masters have shaken out all the weak hands and accumulated enough cheap coins. They are playing for a pump now. We will be dumped on in the future but in the meantime we have our chance to dump before the whales do. Prepare for the climax when massive media attention hits Bitcoin and winglkleswiis announce their ETF. Right now it is the last chance to buy undervalued bitcoins.

There will be a new set of masters who will try a different dump and pump.
The price seems to be retreating from $260.  Wink
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July 01, 2015, 06:35:47 PM
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Bitcoin is massively undervalued and the football cannot be held under water any longer. There will be no next dead cat bounce. It is time for another breakout and all the paid trolls have suddenly disappeared. That's because their masters have shaken out all the weak hands and accumulated enough cheap coins. They are playing for a pump now. We will be dumped on in the future but in the meantime we have our chance to dump before the whales do. Prepare for the climax when massive media attention hits Bitcoin and winglkleswiis announce their ETF. Right now it is the last chance to buy undervalued bitcoins.

There will be a new set of masters who will try a different dump and pump.
The price seems to be retreating from $260.  Wink

Price is doing the same thing it did a couple weeks ago when we hit $260. Correcting, then stabilizing, then UP.
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July 01, 2015, 07:10:35 PM
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you forget something really important. instead of shitty pump and dump altcoins, bitcoin has a real purpose. and it's being used to buy stuff, send money from a to b, store value and so on.

What the bitcoin fanatics are unable to comprehend is that bitcoin has never been about utility in legal commerce. Bitcoin was practical in the black market, because it offered a relativly anonymouse way to make quick payments. In legal commerce it's just too inconvinient to be used for regular customers. The only effect that adopting bitcoin payments had to retailers, was to get free press and to get new loyal customers among the bitcoin fanatics.
Crypto has been about one thing and that is speculation. Those who are unable to see it, are unable to see though the BS that is being used to attract new greater fools. And bitcoin is currently a very unattractive speculation environment because too much speculator money is being siphoned out by the desperate miners whose "security contribution" is a joke.

To add a bit, Every coin out there can serve the same exact purpose as Bitcoin. Bitcoin is no longer unique but since it was first, it has first mover advantage and network effect.

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July 01, 2015, 08:34:24 PM
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fallling is the greatest market analyst and speculator of our time

Year 2021
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July 02, 2015, 08:00:42 AM
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you forget something really important. instead of shitty pump and dump altcoins, bitcoin has a real purpose. and it's being used to buy stuff, send money from a to b, store value and so on.

 In legal commerce it's just too inconvinient to be used for regular customers yet

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That "yet" would have meaning in speculation if there would be a plan or even just a vision on how to make it happen.


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July 02, 2015, 08:17:48 AM
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you forget something really important. instead of shitty pump and dump altcoins, bitcoin has a real purpose. and it's being used to buy stuff, send money from a to b, store value and so on.

What the bitcoin fanatics are unable to comprehend is that bitcoin has never been about utility in legal commerce. Bitcoin was practical in the black market, because it offered a relativly anonymouse way to make quick payments. In legal commerce it's just too inconvinient to be used for regular customers. The only effect that adopting bitcoin payments had to retailers, was to get free press and to get new loyal customers among the bitcoin fanatics.
Crypto has been about one thing and that is speculation. Those who are unable to see it, are unable to see though the BS that is being used to attract new greater fools. And bitcoin is currently a very unattractive speculation environment because too much speculator money is being siphoned out by the desperate miners whose "security contribution" is a joke.

To add a bit, Every coin out there can serve the same exact purpose as Bitcoin. Bitcoin is no longer unique but since it was first, it has first mover advantage and network effect.

it was the other that copyed bitcoin not the contrary, they are called altcoin for a reason, bitcoin isn't the best only because it is the first, it is the best because it isn't a pure clone

although, i still like anon coins like dash and monero , at least they offer something useful....
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July 02, 2015, 08:23:24 AM
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To add a bit, Every coin out there can serve the same exact purpose as Bitcoin. Bitcoin is no longer unique but since it was first, it has first mover advantage and network effect.

I agree that bitcoin does have the first mover advantage and the network effect on it's side, but because the nature of the service offered, it doesn't mean much. These two things work best with simplistic consumer products or services where the customers don't care much for the quality offered. Social networking sites or carbonated soft drinks are good examples where first mover advantage and the network effect are meaningful. But when you're dealing with high-tech financial software solutions, then these two things quickly become meaningless.


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July 02, 2015, 09:33:33 AM
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you forget something really important. instead of shitty pump and dump altcoins, bitcoin has a real purpose. and it's being used to buy stuff, send money from a to b, store value and so on.

What the bitcoin fanatics are unable to comprehend is that bitcoin has never been about utility in legal commerce. Bitcoin was practical in the black market, because it offered a relativly anonymouse way to make quick payments. In legal commerce it's just too inconvinient to be used for regular customers. The only effect that adopting bitcoin payments had to retailers, was to get free press and to get new loyal customers among the bitcoin fanatics.
Crypto has been about one thing and that is speculation. Those who are unable to see it, are unable to see though the BS that is being used to attract new greater fools. And bitcoin is currently a very unattractive speculation environment because too much speculator money is being siphoned out by the desperate miners whose "security contribution" is a joke.

To add a bit, Every coin out there can serve the same exact purpose as Bitcoin. Bitcoin is no longer unique but since it was first, it has first mover advantage and network effect.
there might be one or two coins that has the potential to serve the same purpose as bicoin, and most certainly not all of them, since 99% of them are all bad copies with fancy features.
but they will not even come close to bicoin, because no one even cares about them as long as bitcoin is around and has bigger adoption and dedicated developers that any of them.

Weak hands have been complaining about missing out ever since bitcoin was $1 and never buy the dip.
Whales are those who keep buying the dip.
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July 02, 2015, 11:14:40 AM
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you forget something really important. instead of shitty pump and dump altcoins, bitcoin has a real purpose. and it's being used to buy stuff, send money from a to b, store value and so on.

What the bitcoin fanatics are unable to comprehend is that bitcoin has never been about utility in legal commerce. Bitcoin was practical in the black market, because it offered a relativly anonymouse way to make quick payments. In legal commerce it's just too inconvinient to be used for regular customers. The only effect that adopting bitcoin payments had to retailers, was to get free press and to get new loyal customers among the bitcoin fanatics.
Crypto has been about one thing and that is speculation. Those who are unable to see it, are unable to see though the BS that is being used to attract new greater fools. And bitcoin is currently a very unattractive speculation environment because too much speculator money is being siphoned out by the desperate miners whose "security contribution" is a joke.

To add a bit, Every coin out there can serve the same exact purpose as Bitcoin. Bitcoin is no longer unique but since it was first, it has first mover advantage and network effect.
there might be one or two coins that has the potential to serve the same purpose as bicoin, and most certainly not all of them, since 99% of them are all bad copies with fancy features.
but they will not even come close to bicoin, because no one even cares about them as long as bitcoin is around and has bigger adoption and dedicated developers that any of them.

You are missing the point.
To send $100 from me to you, they can ALL do that. Granted, the popularity isn't there with 99.9% of them, therefore you can't spend them anywhere, but the ability to do so is the same. Basically, anything Bitcoin can do (technically), Alts can do too. Assuming there are nodes to relay the tx

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July 02, 2015, 11:39:29 AM
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Greece was the start of this but how long can this last. History tends to repeat itself over and over again with them. But time will tell. They will conduct their referendum on Sunday so on Monday we will see a spike or downward spiral depending on their outcome.  Price is $269 now. If it reaches past $300 I think it will be worth to start building those mining rigs.
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Agreed with everything. though all we can do is sit back and wait. Might as well pray for something better to happen. Falling was a really bad thing to happen and every little movement in one part of the earth comes down an effects all others too. its the Dominic effect, guess we can't do much about it but prepare ourselves to withstand further collateral damage.

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July 04, 2015, 04:11:14 AM
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Lol fallling wasn't wrong at all. Look how badly bitcoin is struggling to stay even above $250.  That price isn't even remotely reasonable if bitcoin was succesful.

A few people pumping it and everybody becomes hype again, meanwhile people are panicselling their bags to new bagholders.

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July 04, 2015, 08:20:07 AM
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Lol fallling wasn't wrong at all. Look how badly bitcoin is struggling to stay even above $250.  That price isn't even remotely reasonable if bitcoin was succesful.

A few people pumping it and everybody becomes hype again, meanwhile people are panicselling their bags to new bagholders.

panicselling at a lower price at which they bough isn't very smart, better get rid of naive traders altogether

i remember you were adovactin a fall now, you're saying that bitcoin is struggling, next time you will say that we can't stay above 300 and so on, meanwhile we are actually rising by few step...

i think people are still comparing any climb, with the 1200 climb, that's their problem..
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July 04, 2015, 10:49:15 AM
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Lol fallling wasn't wrong at all. Look how badly bitcoin is struggling to stay even above $250.  That price isn't even remotely reasonable if bitcoin was succesful.

A few people pumping it and everybody becomes hype again, meanwhile people are panicselling their bags to new bagholders.
we are still waiting to see your prediction come true about the sub $220 tomorrow for nearly a month now Cheesy
for reference:
back to 220 tomorrow time to sell is now

Weak hands have been complaining about missing out ever since bitcoin was $1 and never buy the dip.
Whales are those who keep buying the dip.
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July 04, 2015, 04:53:32 PM
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Lol fallling wasn't wrong at all. Look how badly bitcoin is struggling to stay even above $250.  That price isn't even remotely reasonable if bitcoin was succesful.

A few people pumping it and everybody becomes hype again, meanwhile people are panicselling their bags to new bagholders.

I'm not seeing too much struggling to stay above the 250 mark to be honest... It is staying there quite comfortably.. Will be a very interesting month!
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