TappaBit Fixed Rate Signature Campaign 40 Places Available FULL

[monsanto]

2) if participants agree on early termination, it is not fair to pay them equally with a half rate, instead they should be paid pro-rata based on posts made so far (with 50 post = 100% payment).

I agree but I know it won't make any difference.

[zz11]

I've recently received a PM from hilariousandco in which he states that he intents to terminate the campaign because of TappaBit having problems with fraud and are taking down the site.

As a resolution he offered payment for half a month.

I just want to state openly here that I do not think that this is a fair solution, because:

1) The campaign description does not include an early termination clause,

2) if participants agree on early termination, it is not fair to pay them equally with a half rate, instead they should be paid pro-rata based on posts made so far (with 50 post = 100% payment).

I don't think that participants are responsible for a site's operational failure.

ya.ya.yo!

They rented the spot for a month and should pay for a month unless anyone volunteers to not take it considering the circumstances.

[Lincoln6Echo]

I think the best solution would be to calculate the payout like that:
P=original payment *(counted posts/50)



Please find a solution soon. Thank you.

[ajun96]

Can I just follow the avatar campaign?

[bananadines]

im PM it is written that payments will be today.. any information?

[IIOII]

I think the best solution would be to calculate the payout like that:
P=original payment *(counted posts/50)

That would be fair only for those who already posted 50x times. Personally I think this campaign should be paid in full.

It's not our problem that Tappabit has problems programming their site. This campaign was announced to last a full month. No reservation was made to end it early. Therefore all participants should be paid in full. I would have joined a different campaign if i had known that this campaign might be ended early.

[ajrah]

I already removed the code from my sig space, just waiting for the payment, doesn't matter I'll be paid a half or full.  just for reference, I made around 90 post before I received PM from Hilariousandco

I think the best solution would be to calculate the payout like that:
P=original payment *(counted posts/50)

That would be fair only for those who already posted 50x times. Personally I think this campaign should be paid in full.

It's not our problem that Tappabit has problems programming their site. This campaign was announced to last a full month. No reservation was made to end it early. Therefore all participants should be paid in full. I would have joined a different campaign if i had known that this campaign might be ended early.

Probably right , but there are few members have only 10 post or less till today. I think it isn't fair if they also receive full payment.

[IIOII]

I think the best solution would be to calculate the payout like that:
P=original payment *(counted posts/50)

That would be fair only for those who already posted 50x times. Personally I think this campaign should be paid in full.

It's not our problem that Tappabit has problems programming their site. This campaign was announced to last a full month. No reservation was made to end it early. Therefore all participants should be paid in full. I would have joined a different campaign if i had known that this campaign might be ended early.

Probably right , but there are few members have only 10 post or less till today. I think it isn't fair if they also receive full payment.

Then give them the remaining time to make 50 posts. It would also be acceptable to use a different signature provided by hilariousandco for the time remaining.

[hilariousandco]

I've recently received a PM from hilariousandco in which he states that he intents to terminate the campaign because of TappaBit having problems with fraud and are taking down the site.

As a resolution he offered payment for half a month.

I stated I hadn't decided yet but was waiting to hear back from everyone before I decide and if it wasn't ok I would try work it out with everyone which is what I'm trying to do whilst remaining fair as possible to all (though it's going to be impossible to satisfy everyone 100%).

I just want to state openly here that I do not think that this is a fair solution, because:

1) The campaign description does not include an early termination clause

No it doesn't and I explained this to Tappabit several times why I couldn't just shut down the campaign but that's why I'm asking you guys if you're ok with that. Most seem to be ok but for those that aren't I will obviously stick to the terms set out in the op but I thought people might be appreciative of getting paid half for the half month they've advertised whilst being able to understand the situation and the pointlessness of advertising a dead site for the rest of the month.

2) if participants agree on early termination, it is not fair to pay them equally with a half rate, instead they should be paid pro-rata based on posts made so far (with 50 post = 100% payment).

If they agree to it then they agree to it, but it's also not fair to pay for a full month of advertising when you haven't made a full month either, but it was an attempt at some sort of compromise whilst freeing everyone from the campaign early. You wouldn't be able to join another campaign until the end of the month either so that's a plus for you guys. If you've advertised for half a month then half payment is fair but if you insist on full pay then you can carry out the terms in the op for the rest of the month but I wont be terminating it and then paying you full.

I don't think that participants are responsible for a site's operational failure.

No, you're not but that's why I asked about a compromise and if people were ok with that. You have only advertised for half a month regardless of how many posts you make and this was an attempt to pay people for the time they have advertised whilst trying to be fair to all and save Tappabit some money in the process. If you want to stick to the terms then fine and I have no issue with that, but I thought people would also appreciate being relieved of the campaign early whilst also having some sympathy for Tappabit. I know if I was in his shoes I'd hope for the same rather than pissing more money up the wall pointlessly, but I also understand people want to get paid for what they signed up for but there can always be a compromise and hoped people would just take 50% rather than continuing on for the rest of the month. Therefore, I will still probably offer people the choice of leaving early or continuing, but depending on what people choose it might not even be worth doing it this way (especially when you consider there's always a handful of people who don't even make enough posts to qualify for payment etc). I'll wait to hear back from most people and see but if you feel like you should get the full amount then you can continue on with the campaign.

It would also be acceptable to use a different signature provided by hilariousandco for the time remaining.

What do you mean?

[SmartIphone]

I've recently received a PM from hilariousandco in which he states that he intents to terminate the campaign because of TappaBit having problems with fraud and are taking down the site.

As a resolution he offered payment for half a month.

I stated I hadn't decided yet but was waiting to hear back from everyone before I decide and if it wasn't ok I would try work it out with everyone which is what I'm trying to do whilst remaining fair as possible to all (though it's going to be impossible to satisfy everyone 100%).

I just want to state openly here that I do not think that this is a fair solution, because:

1) The campaign description does not include an early termination clause

No it doesn't and I explained this to Tappabit several times why I couldn't just shut down the campaign but that's why I'm asking you guys if you're ok with that. Most seem to be ok but for those that aren't I will obviously stick to the terms set out in the op but I thought people might be appreciative of getting paid half for the half month they've advertised whilst being able to be selfless and understand the situation and the pointlessness of advertising a dead site for the rest of the month.

2) if participants agree on early termination, it is not fair to pay them equally with a half rate, instead they should be paid pro-rata based on posts made so far (with 50 post = 100% payment).

If they agree to it then they agree to it, but it's also not fair to pay for a full month of advertising when you haven't made a full month either, but it was an attempt at some sort of compromise whilst freeing everyone from the campaign early. You wouldn't be able to join another campaign until the end of the month either so that's a plus for you guys. If you've advertised for half a month then half payment is fair but if you insist on full pay then you can carry out the terms in the op for the rest of the month but I wont be terminating it and then paying you full.

I don't think that participants are responsible for a site's operational failure.

No, you're not but that's why I asked about a compromise and if people were ok with that. You have only advertised for half a month regardless of how many posts you make and this was an attempt to pay people for the time they have advertised whilst trying to be fair to all and save Tappabit some money in the process. If you want to stick to the terms then fine and I have no issue with that, but I thought people would also appreciate being relieved of the campaign early whilst also having some sympathy for Tappabit. I know if I was in his shoes I'd hope for the same rather than pissing more money up the wall pointlessly, but I also understand people want to get paid for what they signed up for but there can always be a compromise and hoped people would just take 50% rather than continuing on for the rest of the month. Therefore, I will still probably offer people the choice of leaving early or continuing, but depending on what people choose it might not even be worth doing it this way (especially when you consider there's always a handful of people who don't even make enough posts to qualify for payment etc). I'll wait to hear back from most people and see but if you feel like you should get the full amount then you can continue on with the campaign.

It would also be acceptable to use a different signature provided by hilariousandco for the time remaining.

What do you mean?

If you decide to pay some half payment and some for full payment then this is unfair.
You should decide for all same: or half or full.
We can continue for 11 days left to receive the full payment if needed, as we started so.

When will you make the decision?
I hope everyone will be satisfied.

[hilariousandco]

If you decide to pay some half payment and some for full payment then this is unfair.
You should decide for all same: or half or full.
We can continue for 11 days left to receive the full payment if needed, as we started so.

When will you make the decision?
I hope everyone will be satisfied.

How exactly is it unfair? What you're suggesting is the most unfair option as you're saying I have to choose for you under force. If you decide to take half payment or you decide to stay with the campaign then that is your choice and is the fairest option of all.

[IIOII]

It would also be acceptable to use a different signature provided by hilariousandco for the time remaining.

What do you mean?

As far as I understood, TappaBit is not interested in further advertising, therefore I would also be willing to change the signature to any other signature you provide for the rest of the month under the premise that at the end of the month you will pay me according to the original conditions set out in the TappaBit campaign. This way you might receive funds from a different advertiser which you could send to TappaBit.

[SmartIphone]

How exactly is it unfair? What you're suggesting is the most unfair option as you're saying I have to choose for you under force. If you decide to take half payment or you decide to stay with the campaign then that is your choice and is the fairest option of all.

Then all members will require full payment.
Since i didn't get any payment
I change my mind to - "I require full payment."
I hope to get it asap.

I know the feeling of the tappabit owner, and that is why i said to send to all, or half, or full payment.
I don't want to discriminate nobody. If most of the members accept full amount i am with them, and full payment should be sent to all, otherwise half payment to all.
This is the logic. (at least for me)
Good Luck.

[hilariousandco]

How exactly is it unfair? What you're suggesting is the most unfair option as you're saying I have to choose for you under force. If you decide to take half payment or you decide to stay with the campaign then that is your choice and is the fairest option of all.

Then all members will require full payment.
Since i didn't get any payment
I change my mind to - "I require full payment."
I hope to get it asap.

I know the feeling of the tappabit owner, and that is why i said to send to all, or half, or full payment.
I don't want to discriminate nobody. If most of the members accept full amount i am with them, and full payment should be sent to all, otherwise half payment to all.
This is the logic. (at least for me)
Good Luck.

I don't understand what you're saying. You're not going to get full payment right now that's for sure.

[IIOII]

I know the feeling of the tappabit owner, and that is why i said to send to all, or half, or full payment.
I don't want to discriminate nobody. If most of the members accept full amount i am with them, and full payment should be sent to all, otherwise half payment to all.

I don't think that fairness in this case is a majority decision. It can be settled on a individual level, because if a participant chooses to agree on a settlement offer, he terminates the original contract out of free will.

[hilariousandco]

I know the feeling of the tappabit owner, and that is why i said to send to all, or half, or full payment.
I don't want to discriminate nobody. If most of the members accept full amount i am with them, and full payment should be sent to all, otherwise half payment to all.

I don't think that fairness in this case is a majority decision. It can be settled on a individual level, because if a participant chooses to agree on a settlement offer, he terminates the original contract out of free will.

And that's why I think either choosing to take the half payment now or continue for the rest of the month for full payment is the best option, but apparently SmartIphone think it's only fair if it's one or the other, which is the least fair and one where I have to force a decision on people which obviously isn't going to go down well if that's not what they want.

[xmaxbit]

If you have chosen to make half payment , then do it right away and rest will be dealt with later on. I also did 51 posts when I came to know about this . Why don you just send half payment right away ? Please do it now.

[ajrah]

I am a bit confuse then, what is the benefit if we keep wearing tappabit's signature whilst the site is taking down ?, do I need to use tappabit's signature again?

[hilariousandco]

If you have chosen to make half payment , then do it right away and rest will be dealt with later on. I also did 51 posts when I came to know about this . Why don you just send half payment right away ? Please do it now.

I haven't decided yet so I can't just send it right away because if half aren't ok, half are and a few think it's unfair then that's a predicament. Hopefully people will just be ok with choosing one or the other or worst case the campaign just continues as it would have but you're going to get your money either way so just have some patience. You would have had to wait till the end of the month anyway so there shouldn't be any issue.

I am a bit confuse then, what is the benefit if we keep wearing tappabit's signature whilst the site is taking down ?, do I need to use tappabit's signature again?

There is no benefit, that's the point. What we're trying to work out is a compromise because of that. If people want to take half payment now then they could and the others can continue on if they wish but that needs to be decided and that's what I'm trying to do.

[foxkyu]

what if my post is a few?? can i still have the payment??
i don't mind if you pay a half, like i said in PM before