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they are registered in panama not from UK http://www.whois.com/whois/hashnet.coDomain Name: HASHNET.CO Domain ID: D66482302-CO Sponsoring Registrar: NAMECHEAP, INC. Sponsoring Registrar IANA ID: 1068 Registrar URL (registration services): http://www.namecheap.comDomain Status: clientTransferProhibited Registrant ID: IRPRXR3ULWF2EW3M Registrant Name: WhoisGuard Protected Registrant Organization: WhoisGuard, Inc. Registrant Address1: P.O. Box 0823-03411 Registrant City: Panama Registrant State/Province: Panama Registrant Postal Code: 00000 Registrant Country: Panama Registrant Country Code: PA Registrant Phone Number: +507.8365503 Registrant Facsimile Number: +51.17057182
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July 02, 2015, 07:26:32 AM |
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they are registered in panama not from UK http://www.whois.com/whois/hashnet.coDomain Name: HASHNET.CO Domain ID: D66482302-CO Sponsoring Registrar: NAMECHEAP, INC. Sponsoring Registrar IANA ID: 1068 Registrar URL (registration services): http://www.namecheap.comDomain Status: clientTransferProhibited Registrant ID: IRPRXR3ULWF2EW3M Registrant Name: WhoisGuard Protected Registrant Organization: WhoisGuard, Inc. Registrant Address1: P.O. Box 0823-03411 Registrant City: Panama Registrant State/Province: Panama Registrant Postal Code: 00000 Registrant Country: Panama Registrant Country Code: PA Registrant Phone Number: +507.8365503 Registrant Facsimile Number: +51.17057182 They're using WHOIS protection ;-) Not a good sign, but they can still be located in the UK...
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July 02, 2015, 07:32:50 AM |
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This is hashnet not hashnest it possible be a cloud mining ponzi scheme? No pic about company, staff, and farm field
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DMD Diamond Making Money 4+ years! Join us!
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July 02, 2015, 08:00:13 AM |
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This is hashnet not hashnest it possible be a cloud mining ponzi scheme? No pic about company, staff, and farm field My usual line, no photos, no mining proof, NO MONEY. STOP FEEDING CRYPTO SCAMMERS.
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secrethedgehog
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July 02, 2015, 12:36:45 PM |
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1) well, They claim to have a company set up in UK. they dont.http://companycheck.co.uk/search/results?SearchCompaniesForm%5Bname%5D=hashnet&yt0=http://wck2.companieshouse.gov.uk//companysearch?disp=1&frfsh=1435839410&#result^^ This is not even a true legitimate address, No postal code, birmingham is a big place (I know, I used to live there) - B4 is a postal district but that is only it. a large district (almost a town in itself), No way for anyone to contact them with that address. Apparently they are also known as Hashnet Mining LLC - a completely different name to Hashnet Ltd https://www.facebook.com/pages/Hashnet-Mining-LLC/104158506586743an also known by their Founder as Hashnet LLC https://forum.bitmain.com/bbs/topics/1752Which in the UK (where they are apparently registered but not) You cannot get an LLC (They are PLC, Public Limited Company) Not limited liability company. 2) Whois privacy, Big No-No, They shouldn't be trying to hide anything especially if they have a company set up. 3) Shared hosting - I imaging that any legitimate business who expect high load and have tools to connect to their "equipment" wouldn't be using shared hosting dns1.namecheaphosting.com 162.159.24.5 dns2.namecheaphosting.com 162.159.25.5 4) According to this page ( http://web.archive.org/web/20150526120324/http://www.hashnet.co/) they are using Bitmains AntminerS5, Maybe we should invite Bitmain to comment on this? Altogether this setup appears to be a shambles. I would not invest here, it looks like a complete ponzi scheme / scam
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July 02, 2015, 12:38:35 PM |
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legitimate companies don't use whois protection. this is just another ponzi, don't bother
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altcoinhosting
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July 03, 2015, 04:44:17 AM |
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Wow secrethedgehog, you really put some effort in this...
Thanks, i think you did a great job. At least, now it's clear to everybody that the chances of this being either a scam or a ponzi are >99%. (especially since you found out they're lying about their company info and address)
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July 03, 2015, 07:33:57 AM |
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Secret hedgehog did put some work into that.
Here is what I say: Maybe everyone should calm down calling everything a scam immediately! Hashnet is in v1 Beta, meaning that it is just a test environment! And these guys are already expecting judge verified signed documents about their company delivered to them on a silver platter, like other non bitcoin companies do that! oh wait they don't they are just there and everyone is fine with that.
I think that main issue with bitcoin is that lack of trust. This community has experienced some serious losses over the years, including myself due to schemes in the early ages of bitcoin. Now things are changing but this pessimistic self entitled detective users are still in heavy numbers.
I would like to imagine what the people who have worked on hashnet mining will say once they see all these scam alerts! because 1 user did not find them on some british company directory that probably updates 4 times a year.
This being sad, I am also just testing hashnet with a small investment. At least I am giving them a chance, and not yelling scam after some "detective work" lol
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July 03, 2015, 09:24:24 AM |
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Secret hedgehog did put some work into that.
Here is what I say: Maybe everyone should calm down calling everything a scam immediately! Hashnet is in v1 Beta, meaning that it is just a test environment! And these guys are already expecting judge verified signed documents about their company delivered to them on a silver platter, like other non bitcoin companies do that! oh wait they don't they are just there and everyone is fine with that.
I think that main issue with bitcoin is that lack of trust. This community has experienced some serious losses over the years, including myself due to schemes in the early ages of bitcoin. Now things are changing but this pessimistic self entitled detective users are still in heavy numbers.
I would like to imagine what the people who have worked on hashnet mining will say once they see all these scam alerts! because 1 user did not find them on some british company directory that probably updates 4 times a year.
This being sad, I am also just testing hashnet with a small investment. At least I am giving them a chance, and not yelling scam after some "detective work" lol
Lets all throw our common sense away and listen to this new account with 12 activity Seriously man, what a desperate attempt to promote this ponzi... A lack of trust never was the problem, random companies showing up constantly that are ripping off their customers for thousands of dollars is the problem. You either provide good proof that your company and the services you provide or real, or you should accept the fact that people can be 99% sure that someone is trying to scam you.
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July 03, 2015, 09:28:16 AM |
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Secret hedgehog did put some work into that.
Here is what I say: Maybe everyone should calm down calling everything a scam immediately! Hashnet is in v1 Beta, meaning that it is just a test environment! And these guys are already expecting judge verified signed documents about their company delivered to them on a silver platter, like other non bitcoin companies do that! oh wait they don't they are just there and everyone is fine with that.
I think that main issue with bitcoin is that lack of trust. This community has experienced some serious losses over the years, including myself due to schemes in the early ages of bitcoin. Now things are changing but this pessimistic self entitled detective users are still in heavy numbers.
I would like to imagine what the people who have worked on hashnet mining will say once they see all these scam alerts! because 1 user did not find them on some british company directory that probably updates 4 times a year.
This being sad, I am also just testing hashnet with a small investment. At least I am giving them a chance, and not yelling scam after some "detective work" lol
Are you finding your payouts to be above average? I have 10GH/s there as a test and this is what i am finding. Oh and a Nice withdrawal fee... Fee: 0.00097513 BTC (0.25 USD) Ian
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July 03, 2015, 10:17:13 AM |
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Secret hedgehog did put some work into that.
Here is what I say: Maybe everyone should calm down calling everything a scam immediately! Hashnet is in v1 Beta, meaning that it is just a test environment! And these guys are already expecting judge verified signed documents about their company delivered to them on a silver platter, like other non bitcoin companies do that! oh wait they don't they are just there and everyone is fine with that.
I think that main issue with bitcoin is that lack of trust. This community has experienced some serious losses over the years, including myself due to schemes in the early ages of bitcoin. Now things are changing but this pessimistic self entitled detective users are still in heavy numbers.
I would like to imagine what the people who have worked on hashnet mining will say once they see all these scam alerts! because 1 user did not find them on some british company directory that probably updates 4 times a year.
This being sad, I am also just testing hashnet with a small investment. At least I am giving them a chance, and not yelling scam after some "detective work" lol
Are you finding your payouts to be above average? I have 10GH/s there as a test and this is what i am finding. Oh and a Nice withdrawal fee... Fee: 0.00097513 BTC (0.25 USD) Ian I don't think that you can compare payouts with other services, they all have different miners, policies, and stuff. That is just my opinion.... Their breakeven is around 155 days, based on my calculation which reasonable. I mean if you want to make money with bitcoin mining, and you can't pay 25 cents for a withdraw then, you should really just invest in the stock market or some mutual fund where you might receive 5% annually and the government takes 30% of your profit and the company the other 30%. I mean its 25 cents come on dude
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July 03, 2015, 10:28:54 AM |
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Secret hedgehog did put some work into that.
Here is what I say: Maybe everyone should calm down calling everything a scam immediately! Hashnet is in v1 Beta, meaning that it is just a test environment! And these guys are already expecting judge verified signed documents about their company delivered to them on a silver platter, like other non bitcoin companies do that! oh wait they don't they are just there and everyone is fine with that.
I think that main issue with bitcoin is that lack of trust. This community has experienced some serious losses over the years, including myself due to schemes in the early ages of bitcoin. Now things are changing but this pessimistic self entitled detective users are still in heavy numbers.
I would like to imagine what the people who have worked on hashnet mining will say once they see all these scam alerts! because 1 user did not find them on some british company directory that probably updates 4 times a year.
This being sad, I am also just testing hashnet with a small investment. At least I am giving them a chance, and not yelling scam after some "detective work" lol
Lets all throw our common sense away and listen to this new account with 12 activity Seriously man, what a desperate attempt to promote this ponzi... A lack of trust never was the problem, random companies showing up constantly that are ripping off their customers for thousands of dollars is the problem. You either provide good proof that your company and the services you provide or real, or you should accept the fact that people can be 99% sure that someone is trying to scam you. Listem to this new account? Dude I have been on this forum longer than you!! lol You registered in 2013, December, I registered in 2013 July. Obviously you have been actively commenting on the forum and everything, which I truly admire. I did not comment that much, but that does not mean that I have not checked on this forum basically every day. So don't question my age in crypto
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July 03, 2015, 10:34:41 AM |
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Seriously though.
They are unable to prove anything, Registered companies are instantly put in the DB once you get documents from companies house (I have registered many companies for my employer in the past).
This really is an obvious scam / ponzi attempt, There is nothing to trust them on... at all
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July 03, 2015, 10:43:43 AM |
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Seriously though.
They are unable to prove anything, Registered companies are instantly put in the DB once you get documents from companies house (I have registered many companies for my employer in the past).
This really is an obvious scam / ponzi attempt, There is nothing to trust them on... at all
I believe you have showed your standing regarding our service multiple times. We are not going to prove our existence to a user on a forum. Our documents have been submitted and are being processed for your information. It shocks me how you can be so sure about our scheme, after 5 hours of the launch of our beta service. What I have realised in the crypto industry is that members of this forum tend to want everything within minutes. New updates within minutes? if there is a missed payout or a server maintenance, they immediately call scam and post these negative comments all over forums like pirates. You say you have registered multiple companies, they you should really know that building a brand and a company from the ground up takes months and sometimes years. So you accusations within hours of our launch struck me as odd and offensive. If you are not involved with bitcoin cloud mining and you don't support our service within hours of its launch that is your judgement. Let others judge for themselves. Thanks, Robert
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ErikvanBreen
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July 03, 2015, 10:55:03 AM |
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Clear scam/ponzi promotionThey are avoiding all questions to provide proof of mining. Cryptoguru: Did you know your profile has a tab called "activity"? this includes reading posts aswell, which clearly shows you are a shill account that has been reading pretty much to nothing in the past 2 years. So please continue with your claims about yourself and this company, because it is only making the whole thing more hilarious and obvious. For the record: Every time a company avoids answering the basic question about providing proof of their services it means that they have something to hide
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ErikvanBreen
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July 03, 2015, 10:59:15 AM |
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We are not going to prove our existence to a user on a forum
Robert, This sentence is enough reason for every single user on this forum to not invest in your company. You are happy to take our BTC and Fiat, while you are unwilling to provide any proof that the money is being spend on what you say it is. My suggestion is that you close this topic and spend a night thinking about if this is how you want to be remembered, or that you stand up as a proud company owner and show us that you are the real deal that you claim you are.
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July 03, 2015, 12:06:18 PM |
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We are not going to prove our existence to a user on a forum
Robert, This sentence is enough reason for every single user on this forum to not invest in your company. You are happy to take our BTC and Fiat, while you are unwilling to provide any proof that the money is being spend on what you say it is. My suggestion is that you close this topic and spend a night thinking about if this is how you want to be remembered, or that you stand up as a proud company owner and show us that you are the real deal that you claim you are. I appreciate your feedback. I see that you are a great and responsible member of this forum. I will definitely take into account your feedback. Thank you very much. Have a nice day Rob
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July 03, 2015, 03:11:31 PM |
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Seriously though.
They are unable to prove anything, Registered companies are instantly put in the DB once you get documents from companies house (I have registered many companies for my employer in the past).
This really is an obvious scam / ponzi attempt, There is nothing to trust them on... at all
I believe you have showed your standing regarding our service multiple times. We are not going to prove our existence to a user on a forum. Our documents have been submitted and are being processed for your information. It shocks me how you can be so sure about our scheme, after 5 hours of the launch of our beta service. What I have realised in the crypto industry is that members of this forum tend to want everything within minutes. New updates within minutes? if there is a missed payout or a server maintenance, they immediately call scam and post these negative comments all over forums like pirates. You say you have registered multiple companies, they you should really know that building a brand and a company from the ground up takes months and sometimes years. So you accusations within hours of our launch struck me as odd and offensive. If you are not involved with bitcoin cloud mining and you don't support our service within hours of its launch that is your judgement. Let others judge for themselves. Thanks, Robert I have no problem with your service is you prove your legitimacy. Why are you posting on the forum if you don't care about the people on here believing you or not? Still things to note. 1) Why have you used the term LTD, when you want to be a Limited Liability Company? Surely you would have requested PLC in the UK? 2) Surely this would have been done before the launch of your site so that you can prove legitimacy? 3) You would have received your New Incorporation Documents, NEWINC Docs the day you filed. these are now sent via post, Email and are available to download in PDF Format. Do you have these to show? 4) As for knowing about building a brand, When I have done this in the past the brand is usually built, the company registered and all work done BEFORE launch. 5) I know cloud mining very well, I have also seen only 2 Legitimate Cloud Mining Services out of the 50+ that have advertised here. 6) I see you are using AntminerS5, I have asked Bitmain to comment on this. Unless you bought them non-directly (like every other ponzi did)? 7) Do you have a mining address? Can you show proof of this? Have you found any blocks already? Can you show proof of this? So I have asked some questions, I would like you to answer them. If you do answer these questions you will get A LOT of customers because people will trust you, If not you ARE just another ponzi scheme.
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July 03, 2015, 08:00:59 PM |
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Seriously though.
They are unable to prove anything, Registered companies are instantly put in the DB once you get documents from companies house (I have registered many companies for my employer in the past).
This really is an obvious scam / ponzi attempt, There is nothing to trust them on... at all
I believe you have showed your standing regarding our service multiple times. We are not going to prove our existence to a user on a forum. Our documents have been submitted and are being processed for your information. It shocks me how you can be so sure about our scheme, after 5 hours of the launch of our beta service. What I have realised in the crypto industry is that members of this forum tend to want everything within minutes. New updates within minutes? if there is a missed payout or a server maintenance, they immediately call scam and post these negative comments all over forums like pirates. You say you have registered multiple companies, they you should really know that building a brand and a company from the ground up takes months and sometimes years. So you accusations within hours of our launch struck me as odd and offensive. If you are not involved with bitcoin cloud mining and you don't support our service within hours of its launch that is your judgement. Let others judge for themselves. Thanks, Robert it is just because we have to be more carefull you know there are so many scammer here on the bitcoin industry and ussually the scammer use the cloud mining as the way to steal money from all over the world
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