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July 02, 2015, 05:25:15 PM
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Revelation, Chapter 13



13:16 And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:

13:17 And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.

13:18 Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six.



If BTC is n´t mark                                             Which another could it be?
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http://cointelegraph.com/news/114713/is-bitcoin-the-mark-of-the-beast-op-ed
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July 02, 2015, 07:57:04 PM
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Come on bit1. The mark of the beast is on hand or head and you're unable to buy or sell without it. No one knows or cares about bitcoin (at lesat in terms of the great unwashed). The mark of the beast is likely to be a one world currency as the thread you linked from.




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July 02, 2015, 08:13:52 PM
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Come on bit1. The mark of the beast is on hand or head and you're unable to buy or sell without it. No one knows or cares about bitcoin (at lesat in terms of the great unwashed). The mark of the beast is likely to be a one world currency as the thread you linked from.

Bigtimespaghetti precisely it discussion is to try of understand better this.Really we dont see it clearly yet, we dont know if it is happening yet or doesn´t,  even if it is a thing like to fiat or cryptocurrency,thinking on crypto its can be used now for cel aplicattions and this could fit inside of :
The mark of the beast is on hand, some peoples speak about another ways like to an chip could be implanted in humans, so We must be alert with
this topic to avoid be enslaved,maybe the beast could be a way of IA or I don´t know really(Think on all is bunch of  scary machines mining BTC and its keep growing)........ ,Think for example on QR code too, it is being used in alls parts.
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July 02, 2015, 11:14:04 PM
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BTC isn't a "mark". Sorry.

I don't have a BTC address. I have hundreds of BTC addresses and I can create new ones at will, and nobody can stop me from sending or receiving bitcoins through any of them. If BTC is the mark of the beast, then I must be some kind of god.

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July 02, 2015, 11:21:41 PM
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The main argument against this would be that there is no permanent number assigned to each user, anyone can make as many different addresses as they want/need.

However, the world currency idea does kind of point towards this.
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     We dont to know who is the beast but it is key to recognize to it:

13:18 Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his 
number is Six hundred threescore and six.


Could be that beast is same Devil because it alway has been relationated with same number, therefore Devil could take any shape, the thing is that he want to have control about humanity and the better way is  controlling the economy,manipulating everything,peoples,fiat,gold,but obviously he need  globals systems, so its important can recognize the mark.  
13:16 And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their 
foreheads.
---> This could be some thing very cheap or free because rich and poor, free and bond can have same access to this? something like to a chip?,watch?,smartphone?, but all look indicate that can be a device but until now there is not device that can be used on both  right hand and foreheads same time.

13:17 And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.



So is very important to have alway various ways of buy or sell to avoid the beast take control such as until now, therefore thinking in future will not be sure use only BTC or only USD or only Euro,etc,etc......, thinking in BTC for example if someone dont have any computer at hand or a smartphone, then how they could buy? logically peoples need phisically coins how has been  throughout history.Capacity Buy or sell something never must be limited under any circumstances or mechanism.


  
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September 23, 2015, 02:51:41 AM
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If all merchants of the world announce "Bitcoin only", will you be able to buy and sell without Bitcoin?
And when you say you cannot be controlled because you use Bitcoin and can create new addresses, who are you trying to kid?
Bitcoin is the beginning as well as the end, even the elite have no choice in this (to think that they have control), and that's a great thing.


     
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September 23, 2015, 02:55:38 AM
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The fact that you voluntarily transact in Bitcoin means you already accepted the Mark.
And if you say you are not, who are you trying to fool?
And if you don't really want to be controlled (when the time comes), then stop using Bitcoin (but can you?).
Will you survive without Bitcoin (not now but in the future) when it becomes official?


     
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September 23, 2015, 03:00:15 AM
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Governments can easily make it non-anonymous by requiring anyone who wants to trade to register their address(es) and be identified as an associate to the address(es).
Anyone who fails to do so and/or found to be trading with any unregistered address(es) may be marked as potentially engaging in money-laundering activity and be questioned, quarantined, rejected from the system.
And when everything is cashless, you will die on your own without Bitcoin or rejected from the system.
That may be how they will impose control on you all.


     
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September 23, 2015, 03:37:42 AM
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The fact that you voluntarily transact in Bitcoin means you already accepted the Mark.
And if you say you are not, who are you trying to fool?
And if you don't really want to be controlled (when the time comes), then stop using Bitcoin (but can you?).
Will you survive without Bitcoin (not now but in the future) when it becomes official?

Relax, If you read carefully is a question, The mark maybe could  be the Qr code It is used everywhere, Only is a discussion to try of found any answer. About your question: then stop using Bitcoin (but can you?),
Of course that I can, You dont? But it isn´t case yet, Really nobody knows the mark yet. Some peoples say that it will be a kind of chip implanted in the humans.
About: Will you survive without Bitcoin (not now but in the future) when it becomes official?  I think that I prefer Water, food and shelter  more than anything. The humanity takes centuries living perfectly without it.Wink
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Revelation, Chapter 13



13:16 And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:

13:17 And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.

13:18 Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six.



If BTC is n´t mark                                             Which another could it be?


Now this what did it do to be the "mark" surely it is going more popular by time and a lot of people have been using this, one thing for sure if it is truly the mark of the beast man you better be ready and gather more coins.
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Revelation, Chapter 13



13:16 And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:

13:17 And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.

13:18 Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six.



If BTC is n´t mark                                             Which another could it be?


Now this what did it do to be the "mark" surely it is going more popular by time and a lot of people have been using this, one thing for sure if it is truly the mark of the beast man you better be ready and gather more coins.

Maybe I should quote the entire chapter.
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If all merchants of the world announce "Bitcoin only", will you be able to buy and sell without Bitcoin?
And when you say you cannot be controlled because you use Bitcoin and can create new addresses, who are you trying to kid?
Bitcoin is the beginning as well as the end, even the elite have no choice in this (to think that they have control), and that's a great thing.

If this happens not only with BTC, Maybe with another thing it will be the signal to recognize the mark.

You say: Bitcoin is the beginning as well as the end, even the elite have no choice in this (to think that they have control), and that's a great thing
.-->  Nope, you are wrong Bitcoin is not the beginning as well as the end.
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Revelation, Chapter 13



13:16 And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:

13:17 And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.

13:18 Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six.



If BTC is n´t mark                                             Which another could it be?


well im not religious and if I compile the information in my head, is that it's a chip like the RIFD chip that can also store your bitcoins in etc, they can just turn off your chip if you fuck up I guess?

And since most jobs in shit are getting automated by machines in 10-20 years thats what it means?
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Revelation, Chapter 13



13:16 And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:

13:17 And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.

13:18 Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six.



If BTC is n´t mark                                             Which another could it be?


well im not religious and if I compile the information in my head, is that it's a chip like the RIFD chip that can also store your bitcoins in etc, they can just turn off your chip if you fuck up I guess?

And since most jobs in shit are getting automated by machines in 10-20 years thats what it means?

Can be, But what about  the QR Code ?  It is used everywhere already. Or

13:16 And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:

Could a smarthphone be?
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If all merchants of the world announce "Bitcoin only", will you be able to buy and sell without Bitcoin?
And when you say you cannot be controlled because you use Bitcoin and can create new addresses, who are you trying to kid?
Bitcoin is the beginning as well as the end, even the elite have no choice in this (to think that they have control), and that's a great thing.

If this happens not only with BTC, Maybe with another thing it will be the signal to recognize the mark.

You say: Bitcoin is the beginning as well as the end, even the elite have no choice in this (to think that they have control), and that's a great thing
.-->  Nope, you are wrong Bitcoin is not the beginning as well as the end.

Let's put it this way. Not a single human on earth would sincerely say he is wrong. Everyone  is a smart Alec and will always say he is right (or more right than others) despite not knowing everything.

If you think what I wrote is wrong, and you think what you think is right, well good for you, man.

I shouldn't have any problem with this. In the end, everyone will be proven wrong, including the elites.


     
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September 23, 2015, 05:10:12 AM
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Want to escape the Mark? Well, good for you.

For a start, build your own house, manufacture your own car, process your own water, plant your own food, sew your own clothes, generate your own electricity (before that, assemble your own generator and extract your own oil or assemble your own solar panel), etc etc.

If there is a convincing Mark at the moment, it is the ISBN "mark" we see on every product being sold.


     
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September 23, 2015, 05:14:40 AM
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In fact if you think you can escape the Mark by going self-sufficient, then why wait until that day comes? Why not start it right away? Just make sure whatever you do, you do it without involving any dollar (yes, dollar because we're still using it now, in the future when Bitcoin becomes official, then replace the word "dollar" with the word "Bitcoin"), not even 1 dollar, not even 0.1 dollar. If you can past this test for more than 1 year, then you can escape the system.


     
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September 23, 2015, 05:54:09 AM
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Want to escape the Mark? Well, good for you.

For a start, build your own house, manufacture your own car, process your own water, plant your own food, sew your own clothes, generate your own electricity (before that, assemble your own generator and extract your own oil or assemble your own solar panel), etc etc.

If there is a convincing Mark at the moment, it is the ISBN "mark" we see on every product being sold.

A thing is a good or bad system economic where you can buy or sell with usd, yen, euro, sterling pounds,
 and rest of currencies, gold, silver, gift cards, btc, And other thing totally different is the mark it is  that you can use only one thing to buy or sell con it mark.  

And what about  Qr code instead off ISBN.
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