The Great Silk Road Crash of 20** ...?

[adamstgBit]

You think that Europe is a safe harbour for drug buyers?

Pretty funny would be indeed to be arrested because of buying drugs on SilkRoad.

  When you get busted, I m sure you will have fun.

Go and crawl back under the rock you crawled out from. I know it makes you feel like a big man to try to scare people, but no one is worried by your stupid FUD.

You're right.  It's absurd FUD to think that contacting a random person you never met on an imperfect privacy network and buying something illegal for them could ever get arrested.  Yeah, all those COPS shows are actually actors.  FBI agents actually process tax returns and all TOR nodes are owned by lovely volunteers and not companies or governments.  Oh and the SR servers exist in a quantum state where they do and don't exist and cannot ever be found.

If you think the FBI is trying to catch people buying an ounce or less of weed on TOR, click this link

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[awakening]

You think that Europe is a safe harbour for drug buyers?

Pretty funny would be indeed to be arrested because of buying drugs on SilkRoad.

  When you get busted, I m sure you will have fun.

Go and crawl back under the rock you crawled out from. I know it makes you feel like a big man to try to scare people, but no one is worried by your stupid FUD.

You're right.  It's absurd FUD to think that contacting a random person you never met on an imperfect privacy network and buying something illegal for them could ever get arrested.  Yeah, all those COPS shows are actually actors.  FBI agents actually process tax returns and all TOR nodes are owned by lovely volunteers and not companies or governments.  Oh and the SR servers exist in a quantum state where they do and don't exist and cannot ever be found.

If you think the FBI is trying to catch people buying an ounce or less of weed on TOR, click this link

And just more, they're trying that to catch people in another countries.   

[Anon136]

I have never used silk road. I have seen several people saying that the majority of bitcoin commerce is on silk road, but I have never seen actual data that backs that up. Does anybody have the daily revenue of silk road? If we could find that we could compare it to the daily volume of exchanged bitcoins and see how much affect the shutdown of silk road would have.

i heard 20 million dollars a year travels through SR.

[bitcoinbear]

20 million dollars of oil is imported just by Ireland ever HOUR. Not trying to derail the thread, only heard that figure a few days ago and still a bit shocked by it, Ireland's at 62 in the charts, all the top 12 are over 10 times that.

Is anybody trying to sell oil on Silk Road?

[thebaron]

Oil of tiger penis.

[molecular]

20 million dollars of oil is imported just by Ireland ever HOUR. Not trying to derail the thread, only heard that figure a few days ago and still a bit shocked by it, Ireland's at 62 in the charts, all the top 12 are over 10 times that.

A UN report said "the global drug trade generated an estimated US$321.6 billion in 2003."[1] With a world GDP of US$36 trillion in the same year, the illegal drug trade may be estimated as slightly less than 1% (0.893%) of total global commerce.

=> silkroad only handles 0.006% of global drug trade. A joke.

[J-Norm]

Peer to peer drug dealing is going to become federated instead of centrally controlled. Look at this project: https://github.com/Bit-Wasp/BitWasp

Soon anyone will be able to setup their own marketplace with relative ease. Dealers will either run their own servers or use an escrow service's servers. The key point is that it will be handled by a swarm of independently handled websites independently.

They are even working on a feature where a common GPG web of trust feedback system can be used by all of the servers. So when you create a new user you can send your public key and login by signing a nonce and your feedback from other sites can be confirmed and imported.

Brave new world!

[Raoul Duke]

Peer to peer drug dealing is going to become federated instead of centrally controlled. Look at this project: https://github.com/Bit-Wasp/BitWasp

Soon anyone will be able to setup their own marketplace with relative ease. Dealers will either run their own servers or use an escrow service's servers. The key point is that it will be handled by a swarm of independently handled websites independently.

They are even working on a feature where a common GPG web of trust feedback system can be used by all of the servers. So when you create a new user you can send your public key and login by signing a nonce and your feedback from other sites can be confirmed and imported.

Brave new world!

That project looks like it's dead...
https://piratenpad.de/p/bitwasp-planning
http://www.thelaboratory.org

It's a pitty.

[J-Norm]

op, please outline a plausible scenario by which SR might be taken down, assuming the admin has good security practices in place.

It would not be through tor or bitcoin but more likely a side channel attack.

A newly discovered buffer overflow attack combined with priviledge escalation could give someone root access to the server and send out a packet on the clearnet to reveal the IP.

Once the physical server is tracked down by its IP they would then try to figure out how they are paying for their hosting. It is now just a conventional follow the money investigation.

It is not likely. More likely the server itself is in a VM and is firewalled by another system that filters out any non-tor traffic. More likely is they have found a way to pay for servers anonymously. Likely they have other servers ready to take over the .onion address at a moments notice.

It can happen, but I doubt it.

[J-Norm]

That project looks like it's dead...
https://piratenpad.de/p/bitwasp-planning
http://www.thelaboratory.org

It's a pitty.

It was only a few weeks ago that a plea for developers to help was put on this very forum. Not entirely dead.

The good news is that all of the technologies that the silk road uses are publicly known. There are no unsolved problems. All that is needed is the man hours to implement and audit.

[notme]

That project looks like it's dead...
https://piratenpad.de/p/bitwasp-planning
http://www.thelaboratory.org

It's a pitty.

It was only a few weeks ago that a plea for developers to help was put on this very forum. Not entirely dead.

The good news is that all of the technologies that the silk road uses are publicly known. There are no unsolved problems. All that is needed is the man hours to implement and audit.

For an open source project. begging for developers is equivalent to dead.

[Raoul Duke]

That project looks like it's dead...
https://piratenpad.de/p/bitwasp-planning
http://www.thelaboratory.org

It's a pitty.

It was only a few weeks ago that a plea for developers to help was put on this very forum. Not entirely dead.

The good news is that all of the technologies that the silk road uses are publicly known. There are no unsolved problems. All that is needed is the man hours to implement and audit.

Few weeks ago, when that request was made, their site was working and the planning was on that pirate pad link. Now it's gone, so I would say it's dead. Hell, they say it themselves on the pirate pad.

[J-Norm]

Few weeks ago, when that request was made, their site was working and the planning was on that pirate pad link. Now it's gone, so I would say it's dead. Hell, they say it themselves on the pirate pad.

Like I said, all of the technology problems are solved. It is simply a matter of the time of an intermediate developer to build such a site.

My point is that peer-to-peer drug dealing does not rely on the silk road, it relies on tor, gpg and bitcoin which any website can employ.

[CharlieContent]

You think that Europe is a safe harbour for drug buyers?

Pretty funny would be indeed to be arrested because of buying drugs on SilkRoad.

  When you get busted, I m sure you will have fun.

Go and crawl back under the rock you crawled out from. I know it makes you feel like a big man to try to scare people, but no one is worried by your stupid FUD.

You're right.  It's absurd FUD to think that contacting a random person you never met on an imperfect privacy network and buying something illegal for them could ever get arrested.  Yeah, all those COPS shows are actually actors.  FBI agents actually process tax returns and all TOR nodes are owned by lovely volunteers and not companies or governments.  Oh and the SR servers exist in a quantum state where they do and don't exist and cannot ever be found.

Fuck, yeah. I saw that episode of COPS where they busted the guy who bought an 8th of weed off Silk Road. Apparently it was a $1m FBI investigation to catch some kid with 5 joints worth of fucking weed. Bad boys bad boys, whatcha gonna do? Whatcha gonna do when they come for you?

Use your brain for a change you dumb fuck.

[Anon136]

You think that Europe is a safe harbour for drug buyers?

Pretty funny would be indeed to be arrested because of buying drugs on SilkRoad.

  When you get busted, I m sure you will have fun.

Go and crawl back under the rock you crawled out from. I know it makes you feel like a big man to try to scare people, but no one is worried by your stupid FUD.

You're right.  It's absurd FUD to think that contacting a random person you never met on an imperfect privacy network and buying something illegal for them could ever get arrested.  Yeah, all those COPS shows are actually actors.  FBI agents actually process tax returns and all TOR nodes are owned by lovely volunteers and not companies or governments.  Oh and the SR servers exist in a quantum state where they do and don't exist and cannot ever be found.

Fuck, yeah. I saw that episode of COPS where they busted the guy who bought an 8th of weed off Silk Road. Apparently it was a $1m FBI investigation to catch some kid with 5 joints worth of fucking weed. Bad boys bad boys, whatcha gonna do? Whatcha gonna do when they come for you?

Use your brain for a change you dumb fuck.

If I was that guy who got arrested and I learned that my kidnapping had cost the state a million dollars, i would feel like leonidas at the battle of thermopylae.

[420]

how many people actually go to silk road

[payb.tc]

http://nobody.zerodays.org/hidden-directory/

this hidden directory is really well hidden

anyone know where it's hiding these days?

[Spekulatius]

Looks like SR has been partially compromised by means of SQL injection. Damage limited so far, but who knows whats next!
http://www.reddit.com/r/SilkRoad/comments/151sok/sr_quick_buy_is_a_scam/

[ElectricMucus]

Looks like SR has been partially compromised by means of SQL injection. Damage limited so far, but who knows whats next!
http://www.reddit.com/r/SilkRoad/comments/151sok/sr_quick_buy_is_a_scam/

Oh man a subreddit dedicated to it... that spawn an immediate facepalm.

[420]

so......people buy more btc as SR goes down???

someone hoping to be first back on and get the low drug prices?