Got scammed on Trading for Cash ( 74.19 BTC )

[Casimir1904]

Dear Community,

today I got Scammed by a Dutch guy who called his self altrechtbtc on localbitcoins.com
We meeted at an Mc Donalds in Cologne. After I sended him the BTC he told me that he need to get the cash out of his car but he let his laptop and phone open with the wallet decrypted on it.
1-2 Minutes later I saw that the BTC was forwarded to another address and I know i was scammed.
Stupid from me to not think about that scenario.

But ok I was at police, they have now his jacket,laptop and phone and they also get to the Mc Donalds to get videos from the cameras.
So anyway maybe some users could help with tracing him down?

This is the Transaction to his address:
https://blockchain.info/tx/293d4679d937ebc8b9ef9e38a30e56e8b413968f4b2bf018e5c41910287ebc84
His Address: 1PnXvJ8qyy5Hw6dwEamXj41DSLkyt8ccga
The Bitcoins where then moved to: https://blockchain.info/address/1KvS4Yj7qCgjLFLSJsnaSeonuFWFnRA6QM
He leaved a small rest in the other address, I had the chance to move it from his wallet, but I didn't want to touch anything of his stuff...
From that wallet he moved the coins to: https://blockchain.info/address/1EpKArcy57ezBExxo3PiCBg4tKizW2A9Z8 here they still are at the moment of writing.

Localbitcoins profile is deleted
Google Cache: http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:https://localbitcoins.com/accounts/profile/AtrechtBtc/sell-bitcoins-to-cash/

He called his self Jeroen Altrecht

His stuff ( pictures taken at police station ):


Lenovo Notebook, Iphone 4 ( not on pictures ) Gstar Jacket.

Many thanks for any help.

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[mrcashking]

Sorry to hear this but he just left the laptop with the btc behind? And then someone "hacked" his laptop while you were sitting in front of it?
I don't get how you got scammed.

[Casimir1904]

He had the privkey probaly also on another device... maybe he did that also with someone located somewhere else... ( maybe he called him to forward now or what ever ).

[mrcashking]

He had the privkey probaly also on another device... maybe he did that also with someone located somewhere else... ( maybe he called him to forward now or what ever ).

You gut hustled. Sorry man. At least you'll never make this mistake again.
Chances of you getting back you BTC are minimal but maybe you can get the thief arrested.
I assume he was not wearing gloves while using his laptop so with his finger prints he can be tracked down and 75 btc is enough to do a finger print exam on the laptop and see if it matches up with anyone in the system.

[thebigtalk]

He had the privkey probaly also on another device... maybe he did that also with someone located somewhere else... ( maybe he called him to forward now or what ever ).

You gut hustled. Sorry man. At least you'll never make this mistake again.
Chances of you getting back you BTC are minimal but maybe you can get the thief arrested.
I assume he was not wearing gloves while using his laptop so with his finger prints he can be tracked down and 75 btc is enough to do a finger print exam on the laptop and see if it matches up with anyone in the system.

Man that's a lot of bitcoins. Let the forensics trace the guy and arrest him for you. Then you can just file a lawsuit multiplying the amount he stole from you. That's all I can think about.

[Casimir1904]

Good chances he is also good visible at the video from security cameras.
No he had no gloves.
Chances to get btc back is something between 0% and 0.0001% I guess. But maybe he could become unhappy with trying to spent them?

[thebigtalk]

Good chances he is also good visible at the video from security cameras.
No he had no gloves.
Chances to get btc back is something between 0% and 0.0001% I guess. But maybe he could become unhappy with trying to spent them?

He got carried away with the amount. He'll always feel the guilt when spending each and every coin he stole from you and realizing that he did a very dumb move. He got caught with the CCTVs, fingerprints all over his stuff, gadgets that could lead to his original information and such. I'm sure he's getting ready to move out the place. Better do something real quick.

[Casimir1904]

Good chances he is also good visible at the video from security cameras.
No he had no gloves.
Chances to get btc back is something between 0% and 0.0001% I guess. But maybe he could become unhappy with trying to spent them?

He got carried away with the amount. He'll always feel the guilt when spending each and every coin he stole from you and realizing that he did a very dumb move. He got caught with the CCTVs, fingerprints all over his stuff, gadgets that could lead to his original information and such. I'm sure he's getting ready to move out the place. Better do something real quick.

Now I called instantly the police and they said I should come to them with his stuff, so i taked his jacket, closed with his jacket the laptop and put it in his laptop bag, so fingerprints didn't get destroyed.
Their is not much more I could do :-(
I think that this was not the first time he did such scam and also not the last time.

[mrcashking]

Good chances he is also good visible at the video from security cameras.
No he had no gloves.
Chances to get btc back is something between 0% and 0.0001% I guess. But maybe he could become unhappy with trying to spent them?

He got carried away with the amount. He'll always feel the guilt when spending each and every coin he stole from you and realizing that he did a very dumb move. He got caught with the CCTVs, fingerprints all over his stuff, gadgets that could lead to his original information and such. I'm sure he's getting ready to move out the place. Better do something real quick.

Now I called instantly the police and they said I should come to them with his stuff, so i taked his jacket, closed with his jacket the laptop and put it in his laptop bag, so fingerprints didn't get destroyed.
Their is not much more I could do :-(
I think that this was not the first time he did such scam and also not the last time.

I don't use local bitcoins but I assume you can and have already left him a negative review... Correct?

[ChiliPowder]

This is pretty wild! I wish you the best of luck on finding this guy, almost 20k USD. He seemed to have it down, let you see he left his stuff to get money but it was all throwaway. This is a typical dine and dash, maybe one of the higest profiting dine and dashes of all time!

Any luck from LBC? Maybe he was dumb enough not to use some sort of VPN. In America you can sometimes get the video from the cameras yourself, maybe post a photo of the guy.

[mrcashking]

This is pretty wild! I wish you the best of luck on finding this guy, almost 20k USD. He seemed to have it down, let you see he left his stuff to get money but it was all throwaway. This is a typical dine and dash, maybe one of the higest profiting dine and dashes of all time!

Any luck from LBC? Maybe he was dumb enough not to use some sort of VPN. In America you can sometimes get the video from the cameras yourself, maybe post a photo of the guy.

Yeah if you can get a photo of the guy please post it here so we can all take a good luck. Maybe someone here knows him.

[twister]

You did the right thing by calling the Police instantly and may be they will be able to catch the thief from his left behind items.

I don't know which country you're from but it might be possible they will investigate this matter and ask you also how and where you got the BTC worth 20k and why didn't you declare it earlier and why were you trying to sell them for cash.

[thebigtalk]

Good chances he is also good visible at the video from security cameras.
No he had no gloves.
Chances to get btc back is something between 0% and 0.0001% I guess. But maybe he could become unhappy with trying to spent them?

He got carried away with the amount. He'll always feel the guilt when spending each and every coin he stole from you and realizing that he did a very dumb move. He got caught with the CCTVs, fingerprints all over his stuff, gadgets that could lead to his original information and such. I'm sure he's getting ready to move out the place. Better do something real quick.

Now I called instantly the police and they said I should come to them with his stuff, so i taked his jacket, closed with his jacket the laptop and put it in his laptop bag, so fingerprints didn't get destroyed.
Their is not much more I could do :-(
I think that this was not the first time he did such scam and also not the last time.

I don't use local bitcoins but I assume you can and have already left him a negative review... Correct?

Localbitcoins profile is deleted
Google Cache: http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:https://localbitcoins.com/accounts/profile/AtrechtBtc/sell-bitcoins-to-cash/

It's too late for that now. Just cooperate with the cops for now for good.

[Fortify]

Sorry to hear that you got scammed, next time (if there is one) you should ask to see the money before initiating any transfer. Especially when such big sums are involved. With the amount of evidence you have, it should be easy to track the guy down.

[MarkMJ]

A lots of btc
Very sorry for this big lost
Take care next time.

[Casimir1904]

You did the right thing by calling the Police instantly and may be they will be able to catch the thief from his left behind items.

I don't know which country you're from but it might be possible they will investigate this matter and ask you also how and where you got the BTC worth 20k and why didn't you declare it earlier and why were you trying to sell them for cash.

From Germany, In Germany you can sell Bitcoins tax free if you hold them longer then 1 year.
I'm holding Bitcoins since 2011 so the 74,19 BTC was much less worth then now and not really a sum you declare ( $5 - $7 / BTC ).
And its also not forbidden to sell or buy things for cash in Germany. ( I think not bitcoin related their are much more bigger deals every day for cash ).
I tried to explain the police as much details I could ( They didn't here from Bitcoin ) I was more then 2 hours in the police office.

[Casimir1904]

Sorry to hear that you got scammed, next time (if there is one) you should ask to see the money before initiating any transfer. Especially when such big sums are involved. With the amount of evidence you have, it should be easy to track the guy down.

If I do for cash trades again I would let them pay me first before I transfer BTC, If thats not ok for trade partner their is just no trade.

[Casimir1904]

Seems he just moved my coins :-(
https://blockchain.info/address/13Nc3DDiejeUwP1vJU3YHCuJ8NNRmb5J8w

[Casimir1904]

Ok now he used some kind of mixing, i guess shared coin.
If i'm correct his final address = https://blockchain.info/address/12DeDSoYpXkvdexd9MWL23V6327sKEuzDn

[Xenoph0bia]

If he was an user of localbitcoins recently, try asking localbitcoins support for his details, was he a new trader or experienced trader?
they have details of user for 90 days on their system i think, they might be able to dig out some details like any bank address he used for prior trades
or any id document he shared in chats, as well as his ip etc, be very alert there are many scammers out there.