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October 28, 2015, 10:34:31 AM |
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[...] lets see the reasons why they cant give it to us No, that's NOT our job, that's (useless) speculation. Our job is to show why there SHOULD be a sub-forum, the admins should/could give the reasons why not...
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October 28, 2015, 10:37:12 AM |
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Still no sub-forum.
Imagine that.
Show a need and you might get one. ***
Right now, there is no need.
Not enough unique users. [...][/size]
For the 100-th time (do you even read before reacting?!?): the Philippines topic has a lot BETTER numbers than a lot of other language sub-forums (Croatian just being ONE example, Hebrew another). So the numbers ("unique users" too) do NOT lie... There is a NEED. (<- period)
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October 28, 2015, 12:41:04 PM |
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Still no sub-forum.
Imagine that.
Show a need and you might get one. ***
Right now, there is no need.
Not enough unique users. [...][/size]
For the 100-th time (do you even read before reacting?!?): the Philippines topic has a lot BETTER numbers than a lot of other language sub-forums (Croatian just being ONE example, Hebrew another). So the numbers ("unique users" too) do NOT lie... There is a NEED. (<- period) Its hard to explain things to that guy he is blind with this matter.
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October 28, 2015, 02:56:26 PM |
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Still no Filipino sub ? I can only deduce that the administration of these forums is prejudiced against them.
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October 29, 2015, 12:33:23 AM |
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Still no Filipino sub ? I can only deduce that the administration of these forums is prejudiced against them.
It has nothing to do with prejudice and every thing to do with lack of need. Rather than continually spewing "We need a sub-forum" Post the data to support it with a well outlined reason for need. ~BCX~
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October 29, 2015, 11:06:01 AM |
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It has nothing to do with prejudice and every thing to do with lack of need. Rather than continually spewing "We need a sub-forum" Post the data to support it with a well outlined reason for need.
... what you're trying to do... I don't think it's working.
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October 29, 2015, 02:04:18 PM |
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It has nothing to do with prejudice and every thing to do with lack of need. Rather than continually spewing "We need a sub-forum" Post the data to support it with a well outlined reason for need.
... what you're trying to do... I don't think it's working. sadly nothing's been working on our side either..
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October 31, 2015, 12:18:05 AM |
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I don't know that there is a kind of section in this forum. All I can say is "WOW"! This is the better way to how we can communicate to other people around the world using the different languages.
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November 02, 2015, 02:38:09 AM |
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Still no Filipino sub ? I can only deduce that the administration of these forums is prejudiced against them.
If this keeps up, Leroy Fodor'z gonna start his very own CyberPinoyTa.lk to satisfy the demand. HAHAHA
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November 03, 2015, 02:33:41 AM |
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I think there are few filipinos here to have thier own sub. If there were a huge demand why not create a forum specifically for filipinos?
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November 03, 2015, 02:48:41 AM |
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I think there are few filipinos here to have thier own sub. If there were a huge demand why not create a forum specifically for filipinos?
This may answer your question: For the 100-th time (do you even read before reacting?!?): the Philippines topic has a lot BETTER numbers than a lot of other language sub-forums (Croatian just being ONE example, Hebrew another). So the numbers ("unique users" too) do NOT lie... There is a NEED. (<- period)
Also what the Pilipinos' want is to have their part in this forum and to to make their own. Indeed they can make their own forum but it is different from being a part of a successful community like what we have here in bitcointalk.
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November 03, 2015, 08:26:15 AM |
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Reading through the thread and with consideration to other local boards and their overall activity, the merit of a sub-section seems reasonable to me. That and this threads constant bumping one way or the other seems to signify a strong vocal demand for it. The Croatian subforum also raises questions about the rationale to ignore this subsection, either way debating about it seems to be getting nowhere so either the forum is censoring languages and usage or they just don't have a qualified moderator interested in taking up the position which seems like a valid reason for a nomination process. Badbears last updated statistics were from July so if he is bored a 4 month update would seem worth a look to provide better insight. Well, I was bored so here's the math.
The past 7 days (little over by a few hours, +~12).
140 posts, 20 unique users, average of 20 posts a day.
10 users posted 3 times or less.
Top 5 posters account for 95 of 140 posts, top 3 account for 72.
An entire new section is probably not needed yet.
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sbogovac (OP)
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November 03, 2015, 09:01:09 AM |
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Reading through the thread and with consideration to other local boards and their overall activity, the merit of a sub-section seems reasonable to me. That and this threads constant bumping one way or the other seems to signify a strong vocal demand for it. The Croatian subforum also raises questions about the rationale to ignore this subsection, either way debating about it seems to be getting nowhere so either the forum is censoring languages and usage or they just don't have a qualified moderator interested in taking up the position which seems like a valid reason for a nomination process. Badbears last updated statistics were from July so if he is bored a 4 month update would seem worth a look to provide better insight. Well, I was bored so here's the math.
The past 7 days (little over by a few hours, +~12).
140 posts, 20 unique users, average of 20 posts a day.
10 users posted 3 times or less.
Top 5 posters account for 95 of 140 posts, top 3 account for 72.
An entire new section is probably not needed yet.
And also a comparison to already existing language sub-forums (Hebrew, Croatian, Korean for instance)... These numbers alone don't mean squat. A comparison says it all. There is an obvious NEED for a Philippino sub-section...
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November 05, 2015, 01:03:08 AM Last edit: November 05, 2015, 02:37:13 AM by freedomno1 |
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And also a comparison to already existing language sub-forums (Hebrew, Croatian, Korean for instance)... These numbers alone don't mean squat. A comparison says it all. There is an obvious NEED for a Philippino sub-section...
Done Sub-Board Created !https://forum.bitcoin.com/philippines-f87/https://forum.bitcoin.com/the-forum/what-sub-forums-would-you-like-to-see-t10-20.html#p5510Kind of tired of seeing this thread bumped up in Meta without testing if it will work or not so I put it up for a suggestion on Ver's site and got it approved the next day that should prove its need one way or the other if it makes a Bitcoin community move over to use it at least they can have a place to talk in until the forum here decides to make that subsection.
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November 05, 2015, 01:39:57 AM |
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Who is actually in charge of creating a new sub ? Is that Theymos exclusively, or are other admins able to create new subs ?
The lack of a formal statement from management of these forums on this request is appalling.
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November 05, 2015, 02:23:14 AM |
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Well, I was bored so here's the math.
The past 7 days (little over by a few hours, +~12).
140 posts, 20 unique users, average of 20 posts a day.
10 users posted 3 times or less.
Top 5 posters account for 95 of 140 posts, top 3 account for 72.
An entire new section is probably not needed yet.
@Xian01It was an answered officially on the second page of this thread by Badbear. Theymos and Badbear are the only ones that can create new sub-forums. There is no need or enough unique use to warrant a new sub-forum. The 20 or so individuals and their alts posting hundreds of pages in thread are fooling no one. ~BCX~
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November 05, 2015, 02:48:30 AM |
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@Xian01 It was an answered officially on the second page of this thread by Badbear. Theymos and Badbear are the only ones that can create new sub-forums. There is no need or enough unique use to warrant a new sub-forum. The 20 or so individuals and their alts posting hundreds of pages in thread are fooling no one.
Oh well. Sucks for the Filipinos I guess.
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November 05, 2015, 09:17:21 AM |
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Well, I was bored so here's the math.
The past 7 days (little over by a few hours, +~12).
140 posts, 20 unique users, average of 20 posts a day.
10 users posted 3 times or less.
Top 5 posters account for 95 of 140 posts, top 3 account for 72.
An entire new section is probably not needed yet.
@Xian01It was an answered officially on the second page of this thread by Badbear. Theymos and Badbear are the only ones that can create new sub-forums. There is no need or enough unique use to warrant a new sub-forum. The 20 or so individuals and their alts posting hundreds of pages in thread are fooling no one. ~BCX~ Well there was a reaction on those numbers too; they (the Philippino's numbers) are still a lot better than the numbers on a lot of existing language sub-sections (like, for instance: Hebrew, Croatian and Korean)... So then comes the question: what are the objective numbers needed? Or is it still just Theymos's and Badbear's subjective opinion that make the decision?!?
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November 12, 2015, 02:28:01 AM |
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Or is it still just Theymos's and Badbear's subjective opinion that make the decision?!?
Yes. But i have to ask a question? Do you think they should also bring back Wowowee? That has a better chance than you getting a sub-forum. ~BCX~ OFFCIAL SPOKESMAN
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November 12, 2015, 05:08:33 PM |
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Or is it still just Theymos's and Badbear's subjective opinion that make the decision?!? Yes.[...] That sucks, in the "spirit of BTC" (decentralisation, power to the people and all that) that decision should be transparent, publicly known and controllable... Do you think they should also bring back Wowowee? What does that has to do with anything (discussed here in this topic)? (Please don't answer that, it's a rhetorical question... It's simply off-topic.) That has a better chance than you getting a sub-forum.[...] Why? That's bull! There is an obvious NEED for one (better numbers in both views as well as participation by unique visitors than a lot of "Local" sub-sections that DO exist)... BTW I personally have nothing to do with Philippines, so you don't have to get personal (by using "you") either. I am only noticing that that topic has a disproportional activity in the "Other languages/locations" topic.
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