Something for Nothing ???

[WEB slicer]

i would also like to add that if you guys scratch my back i will scratch yours. after spending hours on the phone with people i started thinking i need to do something for the people who contribute to the idea. i'm not sure how i am going to handle this yet. but since you guys are my first audience i will remember that this is where it all started and i will find a way to show my appreciation for your support.

[Lauda]

i have stated several times, i will pay for shipping. i doubt very much this will change cause it goes against my business model of "Something for Nothing." i want my prizes to be completely free. the only thing that might complicate this is really high international shipping costs. if it's like an additional $20-50 i will cover it. if it's like $100-200, that might be an issue. it all depends on my revenue and if i can write it off as a business expense. if my revenue stream can support it i will cover it. if not i simply will not ship to certain countries until the business is making enough to absorb the expense. however this is the very last option cause i want to keep this available to everybody.

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I've stated this already. The Xbox One is 7 pounds heavy, and even with standard shipping I'm expecting a minimum of $100 towards Europe or Asia. It is expensive, but we have to understand since it is going to travel a lot of kilometers. May I ask where you are from exactly, which state?
You could at least partially suggest paying shipping, and if the winner does agree then you can ship it to him. If he does not want to, then you would have to explore other options or find a second winner.
It would be definitely much easier if you were to do this within the US, however I do understand you wish to let everyone be able to join. I'm also sure that the person that receives it will have to pay importing cost and possibly VAT (depends on the laws of each country).

i would also like to add that if you guys scratch my back i will scratch yours. after spending hours on the phone with people i started thinking i need to do something for the people who contribute to the idea. i'm not sure how i am going to handle this yet. but since you guys are my first audience i will remember that this is where it all started and i will find a way to show my appreciation for your support.

That's great. If you need anything else, let us know. Maybe some users of this very community can help you out.

[WEB slicer]

alright, so i price checked shipping a 10 pound box to mongolia. the price is $60-80 depending on the size of the box. i will eat that to capture a worldwide audience.

however, i may keep this a US and canada thing for the first year. the first year is going to be the biggest step. if i can sustain this and make a profit that may be the point i open up to the world.

i'm in illinois.

[erre]

Only us and Canada?  Why are you cutting off so much potential users, only for 20$?

[WEB slicer]

i feel the same way. i want to ship anywhere. even iran and africa. i'm just not sure if i am over extending and biting off more than i can chew at this point. i'm starting to look at it like how do i plan to win the race, by sprinting, or through endurance. nothing is set in stone yet. that's why this is an open discussion. if you are not in the US and canada, sound off and tell me where you are from.

also, the difference will be alot more than $20 to ship overseas. shipping that xbox locally will cost $25. so i'm looking at triple the price to ship certain items international. one of the items i was looking to give away is a 28" samsung 4K monitor. items of that size are going to have a much bigger package, which will cost alot more to ship, and then i have to insure something like that.

[H4M24]

i feel the same way. i want to ship anywhere. even iran and africa. i'm just not sure if i am over extending and biting off more than i can chew at this point. i'm starting to look at it like how do i plan to win the race, by sprinting, or through endurance. nothing is set in stone yet. that's why this is an open discussion. if you are not in the US and canada, sound off and tell me where you are from.

also, the difference will be alot more than $20 to ship overseas. shipping that xbox locally will cost $25. so i'm looking at triple the price to ship certain items international. one of the items i was looking to give away is a 28" samsung 4K monitor. items of that size are going to have a much bigger package, which will cost alot more to ship, and then i have to insure something like that.

So you are talking about buying the XBOX then shipping it ,but how about buying for the winner using his address while paying for the xbox ,because some retailers have lower shipping fees (some even have free shipping)

[WEB slicer]

there are several problems with shipping from store to customer.

i need to have the item in hand so i can do a video and show it off.

i will be able to find better deals if i am not limiting myself to retail stores.

most stores in the US will not ship international.

[NeuroticFish]

Yeah, I am from Romania, Eastern Europe, so I'd guess that I am basically out.

However, if you go for media/clicks/refresh to find out when the "new giveaway" starts, I'd assume that China or India has the biggest chance to win (a lot of people, very low income, time to refresh over and over again). If each "click" counts, no matter where it comes from, you'll be much better with worldwide. If you'll target US/CA then restricting the others is an obvious move.


Yes, I know, you didn't state where the income will come, and until then I'll assume that some kind of impressions/views/ptc is involved. Because the money HAS TO come from somewhere



Since you want to have the hands on the product, shipping can be a problem. And some potential winners may not even want (or be able) to pay the import taxes and VAT. Another problem you will not have in US / CA

[WEB slicer]

hearing you say "i guess i'm out" is very disappointing.  

traffic and followers will be a large part of the income strategy. with this in mind, it really makes no sense to restrict anybody from participating.

the participates will have to decide if they want to or are able to pay import tax. to be honest, with the value of the prizes in mind, it's unlikely somebody will refuse to pay the import tax. that's like passing on $400 cause you don't want to pay a $40 tax. the only people who would have a problem with import tax are those who literally can not afford it. and those people are unlikely to have a computer and internet access anyways. i'm not sure how other countries handle import tax, but i can say i have had international products shipped to me from individuals and retailers and i have never paid an import tax.

[H4M24]

I live in Morocco (Africa) ,but I still gonna keep following this thread and see where it goes ,reading these comments is kind of entertaining  

Edit usually the import tax for electronic devices is an extra 20% of their value but the problem at least here in Morocco is that the customs have the right to examine  ur product and decide how much does it worth in the local market ,for instance they can decide that the Xbox is 1000$ so you'll have to pay 200$  fees 

[scat]

hearing you say "i guess i'm out" is very disappointing.  

traffic and followers will be a large part of the income strategy. with this in mind, it really makes no sense to restrict anybody from participating.

the participates will have to decide if they want to or are able to pay import tax. to be honest, with the value of the prizes in mind, it's unlikely somebody will refuse to pay the import tax. that's like passing on $400 cause you don't want to pay a $40 tax. the only people who would have a problem with import tax are those who literally can not afford it. and those people are unlikely to have a computer and internet access anyways. i'm not sure how other countries handle import tax, but i can say i have had international products shipped to me from individuals and retailers and i have never paid an import tax.

so do i, dissapointed by limitation shipping
since im in asia , and you can't ship it internationally
i hope you can find another solution for this, to keep attract more followers.

[NeuroticFish]

hearing you say "i guess i'm out" is very disappointing.  

traffic and followers will be a large part of the income strategy. with this in mind, it really makes no sense to restrict anybody from participating.

You will do as it suits you/your business the best.
I really hope, for your own sake, that you'll use your brain, not your heart.
Sorry, but I am not good on talking nice I am still here, but if you will exclude some regions of the world, I can perfectly understand.

the participates will have to decide if they want to or are able to pay import tax. to be honest, with the value of the prizes in mind, it's unlikely somebody will refuse to pay the import tax. that's like passing on $400 cause you don't want to pay a $40 tax. the only people who would have a problem with import tax are those who literally can not afford it. and those people are unlikely to have a computer and internet access anyways. i'm not sure how other countries handle import tax, but i can say i have had international products shipped to me from individuals and retailers and i have never paid an import tax.

That's absolutely normal. I was not implying that you have to pay more than you intend to. Shipping fee is already a great bonus.
But as H4M24 said, import tax can be strange in some areas. I don't know much more in this field; I've read the "rules" for import here some months ago only to understand that they rather complicated (it depends on product value, it depends on product category and some products are also prohibited; and iirc the gifts are also treated different).

[pawel7777]

who wants a free xbox one?

Not me. I don't need one. But thanks for asking

[bit-emperor]

as of right now, this is a test for an idea i am playing with. i can't really say too much on how or why i am doing this. nor can i say when i will ship the xbox. but i do promise to ship somebody a brand new sealed xbox one when all the details have been worked out. i will provide more details as things develop. but for right now let me start this by asking you guys one question......

who wants a free xbox one?

I want a xbox free from you...how to get it?

[WEB slicer]

alright boys and girls, i got something to show you.

stay tuned......

[Next BillGates]

  I guess you'll not give it a newbie. But still i'm asking, shall i get this?  

alright boys and girls, i got something to show you.

stay tuned......

what?  

[WEB slicer]

I guess you'll give it a newbie. But still i'm asking, shall i get this?

nubs can win.

what?  

i'm not tellin.  

[Next BillGates]

I guess you'll give it a newbie. But still i'm asking, shall i get this?

nubs can win.

what?  

i'm not tellin.  

owh!  excited.

[TRICHED]

GREAT

[Lauda]

alright, so i price checked shipping a 10 pound box to mongolia. the price is $60-80 depending on the size of the box. i will eat that to capture a worldwide audience.

however, i may keep this a US and canada thing for the first year. the first year is going to be the biggest step. if i can sustain this and make a profit that may be the point i open up to the world.

i'm in illinois.

What service did you use to check/plan to ship with? I randomly checked Las Vegas (even though it is quite far away from where you are), since I had troubles with Chicago and it costs like ~300$ with Fedex to ship to Mongolia. Your estimate seems quite cheap since Mongolia is really far away from where you are.

Update:
Yes, your estimates are correct. USPS is much cheaper.

alright boys and girls, i got something to show you.

stay tuned......

When are you going to reveal it?