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August 08, 2015, 05:10:12 PM
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Yeah or to add, great little device to run at the office since power draw is so low, good solo lotto ticket

yeah  if some want to run a radio in the office and are allowed some may want to run this device instead.


At the lower watt setting  of 30gh and 12 watts  no boss will notice or care. only 9 kwatts a month

Even the high watt settings of 78 gh and 33 watts so what. only 24 kwatts a month


Now put in an  full sized avalon 4.1 at 900gh and 480 watts even though it is quiet the boss may not like you using 360 kwatts a month

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August 09, 2015, 03:15:08 PM
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Great answer, was honestly just wondering the rationale.
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August 09, 2015, 04:33:58 PM
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Great answer, was honestly just wondering the rationale.

Fair enough .

Sometimes the net is hard to answer questions well.

 I appreciate the reply back.

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August 11, 2015, 12:53:54 PM
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No update from xiangfu. Any on your side philipma?

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August 11, 2015, 01:20:55 PM
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No update from xiangfu. Any on your side philipma?

I will shoot him another email but so far no contact for weeks.

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August 11, 2015, 05:00:44 PM
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woohey, photos (not much to see though) - from cybtc / lvl ( same username on this forum if you want to poke at him Smiley )

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August 11, 2015, 05:32:39 PM
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they look like they use a dc plug so this type may work:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/PCIe-to-3-12V-DC-Barrel-Plug-Adapter-for-Bitmain-Antminer-U3-5-5X2-5-mm-/201390721947?hash=item2ee3d28b9b


http://www.ebay.com/itm/RockMiner-R-Box-Power-Cable-4-PK-12v-PCI-E-to-3x-5-5mm-x-2-5mm-DC-barrel-plugs-/252048044512?hash=item3aaf3bf1e0

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August 12, 2015, 08:29:34 AM
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The price. We need to know it.  Cool

I have been told a review unit around late July will be supplied to me.
I guess there was not any units shipped to you?

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August 12, 2015, 12:51:06 PM
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The price. We need to know it.  Cool

I have been told a review unit around late July will be supplied to me.
I guess there was not any units shipped to you?

No I have not been contacted in weeks. No replies to my followup emails. So this is pretty much dead in the water for now.

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August 13, 2015, 04:56:28 AM
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No I have not been contacted in weeks. No replies to my followup emails. So this is pretty much dead in the water for now.

Today's letter:

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Right now we don't have any Avalon Minis in stock.  If you need a large amount of Minis, we can
produce these for you in 3 weeks. As for the price, price is determined on the base of quantity.

The price for each unit itself (without shipping and any other expenses) will be about $240 USD. My answer to such an inconceivable price:

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No way. Last price for Bitmain's S5 is 352 USD. If your Avalon4 Mini can only hash at 78 Gh, the price for it should be at least 14,8 times lower than 352 USD, i.e. 24 USD. All right - let it be 30 USD just because it's a new equipment and it's a bit more efficient than S5.

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August 13, 2015, 08:11:01 AM
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They wouldn't be able to price it at $24 any more than GekkoScience Compac could be put on the market for $5 without incurring major losses.  Economics of pricing don't work that way, even if our wallets would love for that to be the case Smiley

In the mean time, they're working on the website - they just added some official photos; http://ehash.com/product/avalon4-mini/

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August 13, 2015, 10:02:36 AM
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I understand it, but as a private buyer I can't imagine why should I ever buy a 78 Gh machine for 240 (+50 or 60 USD for shipping). It's a madness. I can buy S3 for that sum, and it will be 5-6 times faster.

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August 13, 2015, 10:06:30 AM
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The price for each unit itself (without shipping and any other expenses) will be about $240 USD. My answer to such an inconceivable price:

That's hardly a suprise, every avalon retail product (since the first) has been months behind the competition in terms of effeciency, and priced way above what anyone else is charging.

Apart from an odd machine for those that like to have a new toy, I expect the only real sales they have are from volume buyers in china who must get a better deal.

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August 13, 2015, 01:44:08 PM
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$240 isn't just a bad price it is a rip off.  There is no explanation for that price when the big brother 4.1 was only roughly twice as much yet well over 10 times more powerful. What. The. Actual. F.
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August 13, 2015, 05:01:26 PM
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The pricing here is roughly on parity with 8-9 Compac USB miners and a hub. This would no doubt be easier to administer, but the $240 price doesn't help that. Compared to a "New Rbox" it's lower power draw, and a lower hashrtae, for roughly twice the price of the R-box.

I am sure I'll pass. Thanks for checking Phillip.
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August 14, 2015, 04:09:50 AM
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No I have not been contacted in weeks. No replies to my followup emails. So this is pretty much dead in the water for now.

Today's letter:

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Right now we don't have any Avalon Minis in stock.  If you need a large amount of Minis, we can
produce these for you in 3 weeks. As for the price, price is determined on the base of quantity.

The price for each unit itself (without shipping and any other expenses) will be about $240 USD. My answer to such an inconceivable price:

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No way. Last price for Bitmain's S5 is 352 USD. If your Avalon4 Mini can only hash at 78 Gh, the price for it should be at least 14,8 times lower than 352 USD, i.e. 24 USD. All right - let it be 30 USD just because it's a new equipment and it's a bit more efficient than S5.

Did you get a letter from Avalon? Or is this post just a joke?

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August 14, 2015, 04:53:54 AM
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Looks like ITOP is going to carry this. See:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1152545.0

No mention of price in that thread (yet).
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August 14, 2015, 10:09:58 AM
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$240 is insane.
$100 would be way too high.
$40 might be almost reasonable - at least they'd have a chance at ROI before the halving next summer makes them worthless.

 Way too high for an old-gen product.



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August 14, 2015, 06:23:02 PM
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$240 is insane.
$100 would be way too high.
$40 might be almost reasonable - at least they'd have a chance at ROI before the halving next summer makes them worthless.

 Way too high for an old-gen product.




well it is the current gen chip.

it does .4 watts

no one sells better then .4 watts  except sidehack usb stick.

Now the funny Russian friend above has no idea of price. (he was joking about that letter)

my guess is 60 usd a unit.

I must be out of the loop as a guy buy seller since I have not been contacted and iTop says he is selling.

NOW  iTop wants 3375 for a shipped s-5+  and bitmaintech wants 2473 for the s-5+ shipped.

So iTop may want a shit ton of mark up if he sells them. but maybe I am wrong.

I am sorry that I was not contacted to try to run a group since early July, but  I know avalon must have their reasons for using iTop.

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August 14, 2015, 06:25:28 PM
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Did you get a letter from Avalon? Or is this post just a joke?

Am I looking like a joker?



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