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July 08, 2015, 09:27:50 PM
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https://youtu.be/u4gWkd8UfCs?t=836

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Starting at 13:50 the old fart is proposing that to defeat the formation of the world government we must create our own electronic currency. I was already thinking that they are going to embrace bitcoin but instead that old fucker starts attacking bitcoin as if it was done wrong. Now that just tears it, there is no longer fiat vs bitcoin situation but instead fiat vs fuckers vs bitcoin situation. I thought Alex Jones was intelligent enough to understand that Bitcoin is our key to freedom but apparently he doesn't fully get it or has another agenda. (edit: Alex Jones says he's not attacking bitcoin so I guess he's alright)

But I guess that even bad marketing is marketing.

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The person who set it up committed suicide.
Did Mark Karpeles commit suicide? Who does he refer to?

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July 08, 2015, 09:37:03 PM
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The suicide was that lass who ran the bitcoin exchange in singapore who nobody heard of (the exchange not the poor woman)

This guy clearly has his finger on the pulse.

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July 08, 2015, 10:17:10 PM
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Alex Jones, Ron Paul, and other religious people are on the sideline concerning Bitcoin for a few reasons:

1)  They see it as having the possibility of being used in some kind of "mark of the beast" situation in a worst case scenario.

2)  The establishment has said years ago they wanted to get rid of cash and force everyone into a digital currency, so if they don't know who created Bitcoin and for what purpose, they're hesitant to endorse it.  They're also unable to understand and forecast all the possibilities of what it could morph into even if it starts out benign.  Things like blacklists, fungibility, etc, and how they would affect liberty.

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July 08, 2015, 10:20:13 PM
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The suicide was that lass who ran the bitcoin exchange in singapore who nobody heard of (the exchange not the poor woman)

This guy clearly has his finger on the pulse.

Lots of people "heard" the CEO of Bitcoin died of suicide/murder/Bigfoot attack.  "It is known" they say.

Lord Monckton is a badass.  He's old and may be forgiven for not being an expert on the latest revolution in decentralized trustless database tech and the surrounding iterant drama/chaos/media circus.

He's done yeoman's work in debunking and publicly exposing the Global Warming Climate Change Chaotic Weather scam:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xhu3ESXvGR4

Utter r3ckage begins at 4:40...  Cool

OMG that poor stupid hippie lady...so fukkin' r3kt...by a scrupulously polite Lord no less...  Grin

"I have faith in Greenpeace..."


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July 08, 2015, 10:52:51 PM
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Alex Jones, Ron Paul, and other religious people are on the sideline concerning Bitcoin for a few reasons:

1)  They see it as having the possibility of being used in some kind of "mark of the beast" situation in a worst case scenario.

2)  The establishment has said years ago they wanted to get rid of cash and force everyone into a digital currency, so if they don't know who created Bitcoin and for what purpose, they're hesitant to endorse it.  They're also unable to understand and forecast all the possibilities of what it could morph into even if it starts out benign.  Things like blacklists, fungibility, etc, and how they would affect liberty.


Word. If only we could convince them that Bitcoin is actually on their side we could get a massive boost in adoption.

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Lord Monckton is a badass.  He's old and may be forgiven for not being an expert on the latest revolution in decentralized trustless database tech and the surrounding iterant drama/chaos/media circus.

He's done yeoman's work in debunking and publicly exposing the Global Warming Climate Change Chaotic Weather scam:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xhu3ESXvGR4

Utter r3ckage begins at 4:40...  Cool

OMG that poor stupid hippie lady...so fukkin' r3kt...by a scrupulously polite Lord no less...  Grin

"I have faith in Greenpeace..."

Cool video Cheesy I like it, I guess that Lord Moncton is actually somewhat on our side but doesn't fully understand what bitcoin is and can do to the traditional financial system.

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July 08, 2015, 11:15:57 PM
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Lord Monckton is a badass.  He's old and may be forgiven for not being an expert on the latest revolution in decentralized trustless database tech and the surrounding iterant drama/chaos/media circus.

He's done yeoman's work in debunking and publicly exposing the Global Warming Climate Change Chaotic Weather scam:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xhu3ESXvGR4

Utter r3ckage begins at 4:40...  Cool

OMG that poor stupid hippie lady...so fukkin' r3kt...by a scrupulously polite Lord no less...  Grin

"I have faith in Greenpeace..."

Cool video Cheesy I like it, I guess that Lord Moncton is actually somewhat on our side but doesn't fully understand what bitcoin is and can do to the traditional financial system.

Yah, Chris Monkton is one of the best good guys around.  They don't make people like him and Ron Paul anymore.

I aspire to fukkin r3ck fools like they do - with a degree of genteel class worthy of a hereditary title.    Cool


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July 09, 2015, 12:01:14 PM
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"... and the person who set it up committed suicide."

If anything, this short quote perfectly represents what Monckton is all about.
A lot of nonsense and sophistry about things he heard or read somewhere, or in his words "peer-reviewed" (where he seems to not know the meaning of that term...).

Sure he makes some good arguments here and there (don't we all?), but that's not his original and/or intelligent perspective on things, that's hear and repeat.

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July 09, 2015, 03:18:03 PM
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Sure he makes some good arguments here and there (don't we all?), but that's not his original and/or intelligent perspective on things, that's hear and repeat.

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Would you agree that atmospheric CO2 levels correlate directly to global temperature?
If so i'd love to get some feedback on this short visualization https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bbgUE04Y-Xg

Monckton's genius is his ability to effortlessly and nearly instantly demolish the existing conceptual frame of the catastrophists and eschatologists, by use of the Socratic method.

EG:
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"What is the earth's avg. temp. right now?" (result: perplexed bafflement; realization of profound ignorance)

"What *should* the earth's avg. temp. be?" (result: moment of insight that top-down climate policy/management is a form of hubris far beyond merely asinine)

Climate is a chaotic dynamic system, involving may poorly-understood sinks, feedback mechanisms, etc.  Expecting a direct CO2-global temperature correlatoin only betrays how little you know about the composite empirical fields involved (planetary geophysics, systems and chaos theory, solar dynamics, oceanography, etc.), much less the basic logical tools (IE burden of proof, presumption of null hypothesis) you need to properly understand science in general.

Your 'tube only shows the 800,000 years before present.  That's a blink of the eye in the carbon/tectonic/volcanic/solar cycles and associated biological epochs which dominate climatic trends far more than humans ever will.  CO2 was much higher as the dinosaurs thrived for 200 million years.

Global warming is a scam, a control mechanism, and involves intentional fraud.  The scammers got caught red handed manipulating data to fit the theory.  The code comments even call it a "fudge factor."

I watched your 'tube, so I insiste you read Climategate: Why it matters

Their betrayal of science, for personal profit at taxpayer expense, is unforgivable.  They should have been executed for treason to humanity.


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July 09, 2015, 03:33:38 PM
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They should have been executed for treason to humanity.

+1

I can't understand why is it so hard to just arrest those villains and throw them to prison for life. We know the names, we know where they live. Just catch them and throw them to jail.

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They should have been executed for treason to humanity.

+1

I can't understand why is it so hard to just arrest those villains and throw them to prison for life. We know the names, we know where they live. Just catch them and throw them to jail.

They work for TPTB, they were rewarded for their malfeasance and subterfuge.  That does not excuse their aiding the enemy in mankind's endless fight against the darkness.


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July 09, 2015, 03:38:13 PM
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Starting at 13:50 the old fart is proposing that to defeat the formation of the world government we must create our own electronic currency. I was already thinking that they are going to embrace bitcoin but instead that old fucker starts attacking bitcoin as if it was done wrong.

what he proposes would be implemented with colored coins or the other 2.0 things. so let the market decide; maybe it won't accept the bitcoin asset as a widely used currency but rather one of the managed silver-backed assets. still bitcoin the technology is required; he should just learn what BTC is first before criticizing.

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Starting at 13:50 the old fart is proposing that to defeat the formation of the world government we must create our own electronic currency. I was already thinking that they are going to embrace bitcoin but instead that old fucker starts attacking bitcoin as if it was done wrong.

what he proposes would be implemented with colored coins or the other 2.0 things. so let the market decide; maybe it won't accept the bitcoin asset as a widely used currency but rather one of the managed silver-backed assets. still bitcoin the technology is required; he should just learn what BTC is first before criticizing.

I personally don't trust tokens backed by anything because the one backing it up can be raided by FBI so the currency will plummet overnight.

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Starting at 13:50 the old fart is proposing that to defeat the formation of the world government we must create our own electronic currency. I was already thinking that they are going to embrace bitcoin but instead that old fucker starts attacking bitcoin as if it was done wrong.

what he proposes would be implemented with colored coins or the other 2.0 things. so let the market decide; maybe it won't accept the bitcoin asset as a widely used currency but rather one of the managed silver-backed assets. still bitcoin the technology is required; he should just learn what BTC is first before criticizing.

Lord Monckton is endorsing Monero!   Grin

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July 09, 2015, 03:56:43 PM
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They should have been executed for treason to humanity.

+1

I can't understand why is it so hard to just arrest those villains and throw them to prison for life. We know the names, we know where they live. Just catch them and throw them to jail.

Don't we all love a happy ending? but SADLY, working for years stealing money, they end up making contacts and sources and stuff their mouths with money too. They won't bitch them out or maybe these guys know too much to bite them in the ass too. Everyone is playing a fucking smart game. The sad thing is that these fuckers are evil and despite get through without punishment most of the times Sad
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Don't we all love a happy ending? but SADLY, working for years stealing money, they end up making contacts and sources and stuff their mouths with money too. They won't bitch them out or maybe these guys know too much to bite them in the ass too. Everyone is playing a fucking smart game. The sad thing is that these fuckers are evil and despite get through without punishment most of the times Sad

And even they are just expendable sockpuppets as Gríma Wormtongue was to Saruman. To kill those parasites we would one way or another have to deal with the inner workings of the secret military bases in the US. This shit gets so bad so quickly after we've breached the human buffer of the parasitic system that having the evil sockpuppets around could be seen as the better alternative to a direct confrontation with the native terrans (if you know who I mean).

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Don't we all love a happy ending? but SADLY, working for years stealing money, they end up making contacts and sources and stuff their mouths with money too. They won't bitch them out or maybe these guys know too much to bite them in the ass too. Everyone is playing a fucking smart game. The sad thing is that these fuckers are evil and despite get through without punishment most of the times Sad

And even they are just expendable sockpuppets as Gríma Wormtongue was to Saruman. To kill those parasites we would one way or another have to deal with the inner workings of the secret military bases in the US. This shit gets so bad so quickly after we've breached the human buffer of the parasitic system that having the evil sockpuppets around could be seen as the better alternative to a direct confrontation with the native terrans (if you know who I mean).

Good call, Wormtongue is an exact match for disgraced CRU director Jones.

http://www.infowars.com/climate-change-ringleader-phil-jones-to-step-down/

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We do not need Bad marketing , people need to get the fuck away. If they can't talk good about something , they need to shut their mouth. Like seriously? Please Just stop and focus on your business. Bitcoin is doing wonders to the society.People need to see that and appreciate that. And Bitcoin is getting appraisal worldwide, so it is least affected by the criticism.

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