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August 18, 2015, 09:45:12 PM
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Zhejiang’s Christians Are Resisting a Campaign Against Church Crosses

By Dan Southerland

2015-08-11 


Hundreds of churchgoers wearing tee shirts vowing to "safeguard religious dignity" protest against the forced removal of crosses from churches in Wenzhou, Aug. 10, 2015.
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For more than a year and a half, officials in one of China’s eastern provinces have been waging an aggressive campaign to remove crosses from Protestant churches.

This may appear unremarkable given the Communist Party leadership’s hostility to organized religious groups worshipping outside China’s official control.

But what’s notable is the parishioners’ unrelenting peaceful resistance to the authorities’ anti-cross campaign.

The churchgoers, many of them located in Zhejiang’s coastal city of Wenzhou, have been remarkably eloquent in writing open letters.

They also sing hymns in front of armed policemen, stage church rooftop protests, and cite China’s own constitution, which promises them freedom of religion.

Protestants in Wenzhou have also recently begun making small red-painted wooden crosses to display across Zhejiang as another form of civil disobedience.

In recent days, some local pastors have been told that the campaign against crosses is being halted, probably due to upcoming ceremonies to mark the anniversary of the end of World War II, which would bring many high-profile foreign visitors to China.

But Bob Fu, who leads the U.S.-based Christian human rights organization ChinaAid, said that in at least some areas of Zhejiang the cross removal has definitely not stopped.

He referred to a photo of a long crane removing a cross from a church called Sanjie in the city of Shaoxing on August 10.

His estimate of the combined number of churches demolished and crosses removed in Zhejiang comes to more than 1,500 so far.

In some cases, pastors have been detained or arrested. In August, authorities in Zhejiang detained seven Christians on suspicion of crimes including “embezzlement” and public order offenses after they tried to prevent government-hired workers from demolishing a cross on their church.



Why Wenzhou?

The city of Wenzhou, dubbed “China’s Jerusalem” by some, has been a major target of the demolition and cross removal campaign.

Wenzhou may appear threatening to Party officials because many in its large and relatively well-to-do population of middle class entrepreneurs have adopted Christianity as their religion.

They thus combine financial clout with a strong devotion to Christian beliefs.

The majority embrace Protestantism, but some are Roman Catholics, and a few Catholic churches have also been recent targets of demolition teams.

About 15 years ago, the Communist Party reached out to co-opt China’s wealthiest capitalists and entrepreneurs by offering them Party membership.

This has favored some of the richest “red capitalists” in China. But many of the entrepreneurs in Wenzhou are small independent-minded businesspeople who have yet to fully bounce back from a local credit collapse a few years ago.

What may concern the Communist Party leadership more generally has been the Chinese people’s widespread loss of faith in communism over the years and the resulting “spiritual vacuum” in China.

Finally, it may also have shocked some Party stalwarts when even leading members of some of the government-sanctioned Three-Self Patriotic Churches in Zhejiang spoke out against the cross and church demolition movement.

“The pushback is surprising coming from legally registered churches, which in the past rarely strayed from the Party line,” said Yang Fenggang, director of the Center of Religion and Chinese Society at Purdue University in Indiana, in a recent interview with World magazine.


What Next?

Some experts think that what is happening in Wenzhou may be a prelude to an intensified nationwide crackdown on Christian churches, since Communist Party leaders apparently fear any highly organized group operating outside of its control.

As New York-based Freedom House noted in a report last month, signs of a nationwide attack on so-called underground house churches were already evident in 2014.

While some Protestant and Roman Catholic congregations were able “to meet quietly with the tacit approval of local authorities,” Freedom House said, other house church gatherings were “raided or evicted from their meeting locations.”

In Wenzhou local Party leaders were surprisingly tolerant until last year.

A major turning point occurred in late April 2014 in Wenzhou when the huge state-sanctioned Sanjiang Church with an 180-foot spire in Wenzhou was torn down for allegedly violating zoning regulations.

Local officials had earlier praised the $5 million church as a “model construction project” and allowed it to be legally registered.

The destruction of this church, moved the city to “the center of a national battle with a Communist Party increasingly suspicious of the Western values it represents,” reported The New York Times.

Analysts told Radio Free Asia that the huge church had become a too-visible reminder of the numbers of Chinese turning to Protestant Christianity—and of their financial muscle.



Protestant churches

China’s Communist Party members number nearly 88 million according to official sources. But some scholars believe that the country’s Christian population, including a conservative estimate of 60 million or more Protestants, is on its way to exceeding that number if it has not already done so.

And the Protestant faith seems to have attracted an increasing number of Chinese human rights lawyers, many of them a target of a sweeping crackdown this year.

Lawyer Teng Biao, now in the U.S. as a visiting scholar at Harvard Law School, told The New York Review of Books that about a fourth of China’s human rights lawyers are Christians because “without God or a belief, a human rights lawyer would feel hopeless.”

A Council on Foreign Relations background report on Christianity in China published in May this year cited experts as saying that Chinese Christians are also attracted to the faith’s “sense of fellowship, comprehensive moral system, organized structure, and solidarity as part of an international movement.”



State policy toward Christian churches

In widely reported remarks on May 20 this year, President Xi Jinping warned against foreign influence on religion in China.

“Active efforts should be made to incorporate religions into socialist society,” Xi said at a high-level Party meeting.

Under Xi, the Chinese government has been promoting traditional Chinese culture and religion, including Confucianism, Buddhism and Taoism, apparently as a counter to Christianity.

But some experts see the attacks on churches in Zhejiang as part of a much broader assault on all dissent.

A Christian who took part in demonstrations in Wenzhou on Tuesday stressed that churchgoers are law abiding and focused on the cross issue.

“We are here to express our feelings to the cross. We are Christians, we are peace-loving people. We feel very sad that our crosses have been torn down, but we won’t go on the street or act against the government,” said the follower, who spoke on condition of anonymity.
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China Detains Lawyer in Zhejiang Amid Ongoing Cross Demolition Program
2015-08-26 



Lawyer Zhang Kai (C) is shown with two assistants in Wenzhou, Aug. 25, 2015.
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Authorities in the eastern Chinese province of Zhejiang have detained a top Beijing rights lawyer who was advising local Christians in their bid to resist the demolition of crosses from local churches.

Zhang Kai had recently been based in the coastal city of Wenzhou, known as "China's Jerusalem," to offer pro bono advice to more than 100 Protestant churches facing the removal of their crosses and the detention of pastors, lay preachers, and church members.

"They did it on the quiet, in the middle of the night," a member of Xialing Church in Wenzhou told RFA on Wednesday. "They didn't tell anybody in our church that this would happen."

"By the time we got there, he had already been taken away."

The church member said many people were concerned about Zhang's fate.

"He was acting as adviser to more than 100 churches," he said.

A second Protestant church member from the region said Zhang was detained at the same time as a group of preachers and pastors.

"They moved in simultaneously in different locations," the church member said. "They took the preachers at the same time as Lawyer Zhang."

A police officer who answered the phone at the nearby Lucheng district police department in Wenzhou declined to comment.

"I haven't received any information about this," the officer said.



Call for release

Meanwhile, the head of the Xinqiao law firm in Beijing, Yang Xingquan, issued a statement on Wednesday condemning Zhang's detention.

He said two legal assistants had been detained at the same time by the Wenzhou authorities, and called for their immediate release.

Yang said he planned to travel to Wenzhou in a bid to inquire after the detainees and to represent them.

Wenzhou police also held preachers Wei Wenhai, Zhou Jian and Cheng Congping of the city's Tengqiao Protestant parish on Wednesday for questioning.

Yongqiang parish preacher Wang Yunxian and pastor Yan Xiaojie of the Divine Evangelist group were also summoned, apparently for questioning.

And the wife of Zhang Chongzhu, a pastor from Wenzhou's Pingyang county, said her husband had been taken away on Wednesday by state security police.

"He was taken away on a summons ... at around 1.00 p.m.," Zhang's wife said, adding that no reason was given by officers who took him away.

"Pastor Hua Licheng was also placed under house arrest today," she added.



Civil disobedience campaign

Churches have waged widespread civil disobedience campaigns in the face of a cross demolition campaign launched by the ruling Chinese Communist Party in Zhejiang in recent months.

The removal is part of a three-year urbanization and beautification campaign, which orders local governments to "revise" old neighborhoods, old industrial sites, and urban villages and demolish illegal structures by the end of 2015, official media have said.

Zhejiang authorities have said they are merely “relocating” the crosses from the roofs of churches to the interior.

But churchgoers have written open letters, sung hymns to armed security officers, staged sit-ins in churches and on rooftops, and displayed small red-painted wooden crosses across the province in protest at the move.

Churches are also being subjected to audits and financial reviews, with some pastors detained on suspicion of "embezzlement" after they resisted the demolition of crosses.

Xu Songgui, a youth leader at the Tianchang church in Wenzhou's Zeya township, said that "Document No. 7" issued by the Wenzhou municipal government had ordered the audits.

"They came here yesterday to check through our accounts," Xu said. "We have to finish the audit by Aug. 28."



'Unprecedented'

He said the audits were unprecedented.

"Such a thing has happened here in more than a dozen years," Xu said. "I don't know if the civil and religious affairs bureau even has the right to check our accounts under law."

But he said the church is cooperating nonetheless.

"This is a priority document, which means that any attempts to obfuscate or cover up could lead to criminal prosecution," Xu said.

President Xi Jinping warned ruling Chinese Communist Party ideologues earlier this year that the development of religion in China, which is already closely controlled by an army of religious affairs officials, should be "independent of foreign influence."

Citing the rapid expansion in Christian believers since churches began to reopen in the wake of the political turmoil of the Cultural Revolution (1966-1976), Xi has described religion as a tool that can easily be used "by hostile foreign forces."

Reported by Yang Fan for RFA's Mandarin Service, and by Hai Nan for the Cantonese Service. Translated and written in English by Luisetta Mudie.

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according to the information from Fr. Francis Jonathan (@FRJonathanLiu)on twitter , chinese christian lawyer ZHANG kai and his assistant LIU peng were arrested in the midnight

on 25.8.2015 in Xialing church Zhejiang provience.
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Obama is Christian or not? i think he isnt
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Religion : human races ancient communities = Economy : currencies

If you don't understand religion don't blame it: study it!


The Emperor: a man that cannot handle faith.

Human races have nothing to do with religions. Nobody is black or white for being Muslim or Christian!
Religions played a role to bootstrap complex societies, but today they do more harm than good. Is like keeping an Autoexec.bat over an UEFI OS.

But I second you: study it, but beware, NEVER study just one! Study one and you'll be hooked for life, study two and you'll be done with it in 10 minutes.

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Human races have nothing to do with religions. Nobody is black or white for being Muslim or Christian!
Religions played a role to bootstrap complex societies, but today they do more harm than good. Is like keeping an Autoexec.bat over an UEFI OS.

But I second you: study it, but beware, NEVER study just one! Study one and you'll be hooked for life, study two and you'll be done with it in 10 minutes.

The word "race" cannot be applied to human species cause Fascism/Nazism lost Second World War.

When talking about human species you need to talk about ethnicity which has nothing to do with science, it has more to do with sociology and theology.

Human species are divided into 3 groups: Semitic, Hamitic, Japhethites (Gen, 10)

If you call them races I don't blame it. The word is correct for me.


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I think this is great, christianity is just a world marketing to steal peoples money.

Buddhism is what china is about and that should be remain as it is, comming from a country were christinity has been the sourse to massive killings i support chinese goverment to do the right thing and stand against this evil churches.

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I think this is great, christianity is just a world marketing to steal peoples money.

Buddhism is what china is about and that should be remain as it is, comming from a country were christinity has been the sourse to massive killings i support chinese goverment to do the right thing and stand against this evil churches.

True Christianity is not about making money, as it says the money is the root of all evil and the rich men will have a harder time getting into heaven. Don't get the churches' Christianity mixed up with what the bible actually says.
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August 31, 2015, 03:21:39 PM
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I think this is great, christianity is just a world marketing to steal peoples money.

Buddhism is what china is about and that should be remain as it is, comming from a country were christinity has been the sourse to massive killings i support chinese goverment to do the right thing and stand against this evil churches.

True Christianity is not about making money, as it says the money is the root of all evil and the rich men will have a harder time getting into heaven. Don't get the churches' Christianity mixed up with what the bible actually says.


Yeah but too bad most of the real words have been lost.

Jesus was buddhist so it's kinda sad to see chinese people getting branwashed into christianity.

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August 31, 2015, 03:48:20 PM
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I think this is great, christianity is just a world marketing to steal peoples money.

Buddhism is what china is about and that should be remain as it is, comming from a country were christinity has been the sourse to massive killings i support chinese goverment to do the right thing and stand against this evil churches.

True Christianity is not about making money, as it says the money is the root of all evil and the rich men will have a harder time getting into heaven. Don't get the churches' Christianity mixed up with what the bible actually says.


Yeah but too bad most of the real words have been lost.

Jesus was buddhist so it's kinda sad to see chinese people getting branwashed into christianity.

That's not true. Jesus was Jewish.
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Yeah but too bad most of the real words have been lost.

Jesus was buddhist so it's kinda sad to see chinese people getting branwashed into christianity.



That's not true. Jesus was Jewish.

My Faith in Jesus Christ our Lord is not so strong but saying that Jesus Christ our Lord was something different from Jewish (N-word, buddhist, others...) is not going to give an hint on my personal Faith problem.


Thank You and best regards.



PS: BYTW chinese people are brainwashed into atheism not christianity.


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August 31, 2015, 04:30:57 PM
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Ofcorse the real believers won't care as God is only one, and  he is everywere, i't don't matter what you call it, it's the same.

But he was buddhist all the way ,  it's written in hisorty and it has been hidden but not everythin can be hidden.

It's something that has been hidden because it will destroy most of tought history.


But if you choose to get intereset and make research you will find the truth.

the truth can never be hidden for ever.

And you can never lie to everyone.

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August 31, 2015, 04:37:20 PM
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Ofcorse the real believers won't care as God is only one, and  he is everywere, i't don't matter what you call it, it's the same.

But he was buddhist all the way ,  it's written in hisorty and it has been hidden but not everythin can be hidden.

It's something that has been hidden because it will destroy most of tought history.


But if you choose to get intereset and make research you will find the truth.

the truth can never be hidden for ever.

And you can never lie to everyone.


Plenty of people lie. The bible clearly says there will be deception. People will say that Jesus was another religion to pull people away from the true path that Jesus laid out. There is only one way to God and that is through Jesus Christ.

John 8:24 I said therefore unto you, that ye shall die in your sins: for if ye believe not that I am he, ye shall die in your sins.

John 14:6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.
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August 31, 2015, 06:10:55 PM
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Ofcorse the real believers won't care as God is only one, and  he is everywere, i't don't matter what you call it, it's the same.

But he was buddhist all the way ,  it's written in hisorty and it has been hidden but not everythin can be hidden.

It's something that has been hidden because it will destroy most of tought history.


But if you choose to get intereset and make research you will find the truth.

the truth can never be hidden for ever.

And you can never lie to everyone.


Plenty of people lie. The bible clearly says there will be deception. People will say that Jesus was another religion to pull people away from the true path that Jesus laid out. There is only one way to God and that is through Jesus Christ.

John 8:24 I said therefore unto you, that ye shall die in your sins: for if ye believe not that I am he, ye shall die in your sins.

John 14:6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.




if you is going to quote something, quote from the quran or torax, the bibble is the most incomplete and manipulated source.

Besides jesus was only 1 prophet out of many.

and there is only one way to god and it is trough your self, not trough somebody else, you are as brainwashed as the rest of the christians.

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