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August 31, 2015, 07:01:59 PM
 #81

Ofcorse the real believers won't care as God is only one, and  he is everywere, i't don't matter what you call it, it's the same.

But he was buddhist all the way ,  it's written in hisorty and it has been hidden but not everythin can be hidden.

It's something that has been hidden because it will destroy most of tought history.


But if you choose to get intereset and make research you will find the truth.

the truth can never be hidden for ever.

And you can never lie to everyone.


Plenty of people lie. The bible clearly says there will be deception. People will say that Jesus was another religion to pull people away from the true path that Jesus laid out. There is only one way to God and that is through Jesus Christ.

John 8:24 I said therefore unto you, that ye shall die in your sins: for if ye believe not that I am he, ye shall die in your sins.

John 14:6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.


if you is going to quote something, quote from the quran or torax, the bibble is the most incomplete and manipulated source.

Besides jesus was only 1 prophet out of many.

and there is only one way to god and it is trough your self, not trough somebody else, you are as brainwashed as the rest of the christians.

Luke 8:17 For nothing is hidden that will not become evident, nor anything secret that will not be known and come to light
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August 31, 2015, 07:19:01 PM
 #82

Ofcorse the real believers won't care as God is only one, and  he is everywere, i't don't matter what you call it, it's the same.

But he was buddhist all the way ,  it's written in hisorty and it has been hidden but not everythin can be hidden.

It's something that has been hidden because it will destroy most of tought history.


But if you choose to get intereset and make research you will find the truth.

the truth can never be hidden for ever.

And you can never lie to everyone.


Plenty of people lie. The bible clearly says there will be deception. People will say that Jesus was another religion to pull people away from the true path that Jesus laid out. There is only one way to God and that is through Jesus Christ.

John 8:24 I said therefore unto you, that ye shall die in your sins: for if ye believe not that I am he, ye shall die in your sins.

John 14:6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.


if you is going to quote something, quote from the quran or torax, the bibble is the most incomplete and manipulated source.

Besides jesus was only 1 prophet out of many.

and there is only one way to god and it is trough your self, not trough somebody else, you are as brainwashed as the rest of the christians.

Luke 8:17 For nothing is hidden that will not become evident, nor anything secret that will not be known and come to light


Most that just quote bibel citations do not folllow the steps of the truth, i guess you are not 100% commited either, i bet you go to church and confess your sins every sunday.

Commitment to the truth is not about talking of it, it's about making it.

not impressed, next!

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August 31, 2015, 07:21:28 PM
 #83

Ofcorse the real believers won't care as God is only one, and  he is everywere, i't don't matter what you call it, it's the same.

But he was buddhist all the way ,  it's written in hisorty and it has been hidden but not everythin can be hidden.

It's something that has been hidden because it will destroy most of tought history.


But if you choose to get intereset and make research you will find the truth.

the truth can never be hidden for ever.

And you can never lie to everyone.


Plenty of people lie. The bible clearly says there will be deception. People will say that Jesus was another religion to pull people away from the true path that Jesus laid out. There is only one way to God and that is through Jesus Christ.

John 8:24 I said therefore unto you, that ye shall die in your sins: for if ye believe not that I am he, ye shall die in your sins.

John 14:6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.


if you is going to quote something, quote from the quran or torax, the bibble is the most incomplete and manipulated source.

Besides jesus was only 1 prophet out of many.

and there is only one way to god and it is trough your self, not trough somebody else, you are as brainwashed as the rest of the christians.

Luke 8:17 For nothing is hidden that will not become evident, nor anything secret that will not be known and come to light


Most that just quote bibel citations do not folllow the steps of the truth, i guess you are not 100% commited either, i bet you go to church and confess your sins every sunday.

Commitment to the truth is not about talking of it, it's about making it.

not impressed, next!

I don't go to church (they don't really follow the bible) and I attempt to follow the 10 commandments at every moment of my life, not just every day, but at every decision. I am committed to Jesus Christ, and He is the way, the TRUTH and the life.
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August 31, 2015, 07:24:49 PM
 #84

Ofcorse the real believers won't care as God is only one, and  he is everywere, i't don't matter what you call it, it's the same.

But he was buddhist all the way ,  it's written in hisorty and it has been hidden but not everythin can be hidden.

It's something that has been hidden because it will destroy most of tought history.


But if you choose to get intereset and make research you will find the truth.

the truth can never be hidden for ever.

And you can never lie to everyone.


Plenty of people lie. The bible clearly says there will be deception. People will say that Jesus was another religion to pull people away from the true path that Jesus laid out. There is only one way to God and that is through Jesus Christ.

John 8:24 I said therefore unto you, that ye shall die in your sins: for if ye believe not that I am he, ye shall die in your sins.

John 14:6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.


if you is going to quote something, quote from the quran or torax, the bibble is the most incomplete and manipulated source.

Besides jesus was only 1 prophet out of many.

and there is only one way to god and it is trough your self, not trough somebody else, you are as brainwashed as the rest of the christians.

Luke 8:17 For nothing is hidden that will not become evident, nor anything secret that will not be known and come to light


Most that just quote bibel citations do not folllow the steps of the truth, i guess you are not 100% commited either, i bet you go to church and confess your sins every sunday.

Commitment to the truth is not about talking of it, it's about making it.

not impressed, next!

I don't go to church (they don't really follow the bible) and I attempt to follow the 10 commandments at every moment of my life, not just every day, but at every decision. I am committed to Jesus Christ, and He is the way, the TRUTH and the life.

Nope jesus was just commited, he spreaded the word and lived by his word, kinda lika buddhist monks, strange right ?.

As said jesus was just another spreader of the word, a so called prophet of many other prophets.

the truth is found by your own self, not trough others, because you would be living somebody else life if you do so and we are all genuine expamples of creation whit own capabilties of own descisions.

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August 31, 2015, 07:26:31 PM
 #85

Ofcorse the real believers won't care as God is only one, and  he is everywere, i't don't matter what you call it, it's the same.

But he was buddhist all the way ,  it's written in hisorty and it has been hidden but not everythin can be hidden.

It's something that has been hidden because it will destroy most of tought history.


But if you choose to get intereset and make research you will find the truth.

the truth can never be hidden for ever.

And you can never lie to everyone.


Plenty of people lie. The bible clearly says there will be deception. People will say that Jesus was another religion to pull people away from the true path that Jesus laid out. There is only one way to God and that is through Jesus Christ.

John 8:24 I said therefore unto you, that ye shall die in your sins: for if ye believe not that I am he, ye shall die in your sins.

John 14:6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.


if you is going to quote something, quote from the quran or torax, the bibble is the most incomplete and manipulated source.

Besides jesus was only 1 prophet out of many.

and there is only one way to god and it is trough your self, not trough somebody else, you are as brainwashed as the rest of the christians.

Luke 8:17 For nothing is hidden that will not become evident, nor anything secret that will not be known and come to light


Most that just quote bibel citations do not folllow the steps of the truth, i guess you are not 100% commited either, i bet you go to church and confess your sins every sunday.

Commitment to the truth is not about talking of it, it's about making it.

not impressed, next!

I don't go to church (they don't really follow the bible) and I attempt to follow the 10 commandments at every moment of my life, not just every day, but at every decision. I am committed to Jesus Christ, and He is the way, the TRUTH and the life.

Nope jesus was just commited, he spreaded the word and lived by his word, kinda lika buddhist monks, strange right ?.

As said jesus was just another spreader of the word, a so called prophet of many other prophets.

the truth is found by your own self, not trough others, because you would be living somebody else life if you do so and we are all genuine expamples of creation whit own capabilties of own descisions.

I agree that the truth (Jesus) is found by every individual, no one can save you (get you to believe in Jesus as your savior) but yourself.
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August 31, 2015, 07:37:04 PM
 #86

Ofcorse the real believers won't care as God is only one, and  he is everywere, i't don't matter what you call it, it's the same.

But he was buddhist all the way ,  it's written in hisorty and it has been hidden but not everythin can be hidden.

It's something that has been hidden because it will destroy most of tought history.


But if you choose to get intereset and make research you will find the truth.

the truth can never be hidden for ever.

And you can never lie to everyone.


Plenty of people lie. The bible clearly says there will be deception. People will say that Jesus was another religion to pull people away from the true path that Jesus laid out. There is only one way to God and that is through Jesus Christ.

John 8:24 I said therefore unto you, that ye shall die in your sins: for if ye believe not that I am he, ye shall die in your sins.

John 14:6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.


if you is going to quote something, quote from the quran or torax, the bibble is the most incomplete and manipulated source.

Besides jesus was only 1 prophet out of many.

and there is only one way to god and it is trough your self, not trough somebody else, you are as brainwashed as the rest of the christians.

Luke 8:17 For nothing is hidden that will not become evident, nor anything secret that will not be known and come to light


Most that just quote bibel citations do not folllow the steps of the truth, i guess you are not 100% commited either, i bet you go to church and confess your sins every sunday.

Commitment to the truth is not about talking of it, it's about making it.

not impressed, next!

I don't go to church (they don't really follow the bible) and I attempt to follow the 10 commandments at every moment of my life, not just every day, but at every decision. I am committed to Jesus Christ, and He is the way, the TRUTH and the life.

Nope jesus was just commited, he spreaded the word and lived by his word, kinda lika buddhist monks, strange right ?.

As said jesus was just another spreader of the word, a so called prophet of many other prophets.

the truth is found by your own self, not trough others, because you would be living somebody else life if you do so and we are all genuine expamples of creation whit own capabilties of own descisions.

I agree that the truth (Jesus) is found by every individual, no one can save you (get you to believe in Jesus as your savior) but yourself.

Nope jesus is not inside you because he is already all dried bones and dust and he is burried in the mountains of kashmir..


But i see that you are as brainwashed as the ones you say that you are no part of to only believe in what the bibbles says makes you no diffrent from the ones who commits them self to church 24/7 .

You are the ones the bibel warn us froms.

God is love, no god will treath you to burn in hell if you do not believe in him, words of satan more like, because your bibel have been modified decades ago by some who want's you to believe in someone else, someone evil ,whitout you knowing it and making you acccept it whitout your own knowledge making you a sheep, brainwashing you whit false statements.


god do not judge, god do not treath, god only welcomes you whit love.


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August 31, 2015, 07:49:19 PM
 #87

Ofcorse the real believers won't care as God is only one, and  he is everywere, i't don't matter what you call it, it's the same.

But he was buddhist all the way ,  it's written in hisorty and it has been hidden but not everythin can be hidden.

It's something that has been hidden because it will destroy most of tought history.


But if you choose to get intereset and make research you will find the truth.

the truth can never be hidden for ever.

And you can never lie to everyone.


Plenty of people lie. The bible clearly says there will be deception. People will say that Jesus was another religion to pull people away from the true path that Jesus laid out. There is only one way to God and that is through Jesus Christ.

John 8:24 I said therefore unto you, that ye shall die in your sins: for if ye believe not that I am he, ye shall die in your sins.

John 14:6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.


if you is going to quote something, quote from the quran or torax, the bibble is the most incomplete and manipulated source.

Besides jesus was only 1 prophet out of many.

and there is only one way to god and it is trough your self, not trough somebody else, you are as brainwashed as the rest of the christians.

Luke 8:17 For nothing is hidden that will not become evident, nor anything secret that will not be known and come to light


Most that just quote bibel citations do not folllow the steps of the truth, i guess you are not 100% commited either, i bet you go to church and confess your sins every sunday.

Commitment to the truth is not about talking of it, it's about making it.

not impressed, next!

I don't go to church (they don't really follow the bible) and I attempt to follow the 10 commandments at every moment of my life, not just every day, but at every decision. I am committed to Jesus Christ, and He is the way, the TRUTH and the life.

Nope jesus was just commited, he spreaded the word and lived by his word, kinda lika buddhist monks, strange right ?.

As said jesus was just another spreader of the word, a so called prophet of many other prophets.

the truth is found by your own self, not trough others, because you would be living somebody else life if you do so and we are all genuine expamples of creation whit own capabilties of own descisions.

I agree that the truth (Jesus) is found by every individual, no one can save you (get you to believe in Jesus as your savior) but yourself.

Nope jesus is not inside you because he is already all dried bones and dust and he is burried in the mountains of kashmir..


But i see that you are as brainwashed as the ones you say that you are no part of to only believe in what the bibbles says makes you no diffrent from the ones who commits them self to church 24/7 .

You are the ones the bibel warn us froms.

God is love, no god will treath you to burn in hell if you do not believe in him, words of satan more like, because your bibel have been modified decades ago by some who want's you to believe in someone else, someone evil ,whitout you knowing it and making you acccept it whitout your own knowledge making you a sheep, brainwashing you whit false statements.


god do not judge, god do not treath, god only welcomes you whit love.



I don't believe in hell, I agree it was added on by people who wanted to profit, and make people scared. Which is why the bible talks about not changing the bible with curses for those who do.

But we will be judged, and Jesus is alive and will come again to judge the world. In order for us to have the new earth and new world, we will have to get rid of the evil in this world, and to do that, there needs to be judgement.
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August 31, 2015, 07:53:40 PM
 #88

Ofcorse the real believers won't care as God is only one, and  he is everywere, i't don't matter what you call it, it's the same.

But he was buddhist all the way ,  it's written in hisorty and it has been hidden but not everythin can be hidden.

It's something that has been hidden because it will destroy most of tought history.


But if you choose to get intereset and make research you will find the truth.

the truth can never be hidden for ever.

And you can never lie to everyone.


Plenty of people lie. The bible clearly says there will be deception. People will say that Jesus was another religion to pull people away from the true path that Jesus laid out. There is only one way to God and that is through Jesus Christ.

John 8:24 I said therefore unto you, that ye shall die in your sins: for if ye believe not that I am he, ye shall die in your sins.

John 14:6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.


if you is going to quote something, quote from the quran or torax, the bibble is the most incomplete and manipulated source.

Besides jesus was only 1 prophet out of many.

and there is only one way to god and it is trough your self, not trough somebody else, you are as brainwashed as the rest of the christians.

Luke 8:17 For nothing is hidden that will not become evident, nor anything secret that will not be known and come to light


Most that just quote bibel citations do not folllow the steps of the truth, i guess you are not 100% commited either, i bet you go to church and confess your sins every sunday.

Commitment to the truth is not about talking of it, it's about making it.

not impressed, next!

I don't go to church (they don't really follow the bible) and I attempt to follow the 10 commandments at every moment of my life, not just every day, but at every decision. I am committed to Jesus Christ, and He is the way, the TRUTH and the life.

Nope jesus was just commited, he spreaded the word and lived by his word, kinda lika buddhist monks, strange right ?.

As said jesus was just another spreader of the word, a so called prophet of many other prophets.

the truth is found by your own self, not trough others, because you would be living somebody else life if you do so and we are all genuine expamples of creation whit own capabilties of own descisions.

I agree that the truth (Jesus) is found by every individual, no one can save you (get you to believe in Jesus as your savior) but yourself.

Nope jesus is not inside you because he is already all dried bones and dust and he is burried in the mountains of kashmir..


But i see that you are as brainwashed as the ones you say that you are no part of to only believe in what the bibbles says makes you no diffrent from the ones who commits them self to church 24/7 .

You are the ones the bibel warn us froms.

God is love, no god will treath you to burn in hell if you do not believe in him, words of satan more like, because your bibel have been modified decades ago by some who want's you to believe in someone else, someone evil ,whitout you knowing it and making you acccept it whitout your own knowledge making you a sheep, brainwashing you whit false statements.


god do not judge, god do not treath, god only welcomes you whit love.



I don't believe in hell, I agree it was added on by people who wanted to profit, and make people scared. Which is why the bible talks about not changing the bible with curses for those who do.

But we will be judged, and Jesus is alive and will come again to judge the world. In order for us to have the new earth and new world, we will have to get rid of the evil in this world, and to do that, there needs to be judgement.

I as the truth is whit me commands you to stop spreding false statements in the name of a holy prophet, stop decieving people  !

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I as the truth is whit me commands you to stop spreding false statements in the name of a holy prophet, stop decieving people  !

What do you think is false, that there is no hell that people will burn in forever and ever? or that people may have changed the bible to make it look like there was?
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I as the truth is whit me commands you to stop spreding false statements in the name of a holy prophet, stop decieving people  !

What do you think is false, that there is no hell that people will burn in forever and ever? or that people may have changed the bible to make it look like there was?

You are false .

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I as the truth is whit me commands you to stop spreding false statements in the name of a holy prophet, stop decieving people  !

What do you think is false, that there is no hell that people will burn in forever and ever? or that people may have changed the bible to make it look like there was?

You are false .

Well I asked you kindly, what you thought was wrong, so I could discuss the biblical verse that go along with it. But you seem to be not interested in discussing anything.

I kindly ask you to study the bible about such things and check out the original words for hell.

2 Timothy 2:15 Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.
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I as the truth is whit me commands you to stop spreding false statements in the name of a holy prophet, stop decieving people  !

What do you think is false, that there is no hell that people will burn in forever and ever? or that people may have changed the bible to make it look like there was?

You are false .

Well I asked you kindly, what you thought was wrong, so I could discuss the biblical verse that go along with it. But you seem to be not interested in discussing anything.

I kindly ask you to study the bible about such things and check out the original words for hell.

2 Timothy 2:15 Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.


I do not need to discuss about the bibble because the bible is not the bearer of the truth.

When you have found your self you will find the real truth and the true path to god and god will hug you only for once.

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if you is going to quote something, quote from the quran or torax, the bibble is the most incomplete and manipulated source.

Besides jesus was only 1 prophet out of many.

and there is only one way to god and it is trough your self, not trough somebody else, you are as brainwashed as the rest of the christians.

From what you said I can clearly understand that your are Muslim.
That is interesting you said something completely opposite to my religion: believe in yourself. In my religion is never thought to believe in yourself, only in the one before you and in the one after you. Never believe in yourself.

Now I understand why we fight so much.

I'm trying to understand Scentific racism to give an explanation to my lack of faith in Jesus Christ.

I'm trying to give a scientific answer to a faith question (probably my question research will lead to madness  Smiley)

If we can find races based on the Biblical classification (Semitic, Hamitic, Japhethites. Gen, 10) we can be right without discussion: science can give you proofs not opinions.

That was all guys not need to discuss about our different views of God: I have a problem in believing Jesus Christ is our Lord, this is a faith problem, you cannot discuss it, you either have it or not.


Going back to the thread's subject: this is about how in China Government won't give you a Communist Party's association card if you have Faith: Chinese Government is pushing Atheism as the official "State's religion".


So... stop talking about God's Faith please, I was talking about science and human's races based on biblical inspirations are 3: Semitic, Hamitic, Japhethites (Gen, 10)

And the thread is about showing the fact that Chinese Government is pushing Atheism as the official "State's religion" again, so it is not talking about Faith in God, is talking about Facts not Faith (that is not a fact).

Taking about Faith is going Off Topic as the thread's owner was talking about Facts not Faith.


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if you is going to quote something, quote from the quran or torax, the bibble is the most incomplete and manipulated source.

Besides jesus was only 1 prophet out of many.

and there is only one way to god and it is trough your self, not trough somebody else, you are as brainwashed as the rest of the christians.

From what you said I can clearly understand that your are Muslim.
That is interesting you said something completely opposite to my religion: believe in yourself. In my religion is never thought to believe in yourself, only in the one before you and in the one after you. Never believe in yourself.

Now I understand why we fight so much.

I'm trying to understand Scentific racism to give an explanation to my lack of faith in Jesus Christ.

I'm trying to give a scientific answer to a faith question (probably my question research will lead to madness  Smiley)

If we can find races based on the Biblical classification (Semitic, Hamitic, Japhethites. Gen, 10) we can be right without discussion: science can give you proofs not opinions.

That was all guys not need to discuss about our different views of God: I have a problem in believing Jesus Christ is our Lord, this is a faith problem, you cannot discuss it, you either have it or not.


Going back to the thread's subject: this is about how in China Government won't give you a Communist Party's association card if you have Faith: Chinese Government is pushing Atheism as the official "State's religion".


So... stop talking about God's Faith please, I was talking about science and human's races based on biblical inspirations are 3: Semitic, Hamitic, Japhethites (Gen, 10)

And the thread is about showing the fact that Chinese Government is pushing Atheism as the official "State's religion" again, so it is not talking about Faith in God, is talking about Facts not Faith (that is not a fact).

Taking about Faith is going Off Topic as the thread's owner was talking about Facts not Faith.


Thank You and best regards.


You can say i am muslim yes, i am catholic aswell, i believe in buddhism  i believe that god is the same god that everyones.



I don't see how anything is offtopic when the faith, the religion and the churches are based on god.

People taking of crosses because of other believes.

A true believer don't need a fysical temple, the temple is you.

When you talk about science, god is science and science is god .


Jesus was just one prophet, and putting your beliefs entire on him is lack of knowledege and mere deception of your teachers.




Faith is not justified by religion , an unknown entity, or some tales .


but you are probably an atheist and wouldnt comprehend

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You can say i am muslim yes, i am catholic aswell, i believe in buddhism  i believe that god is the same god that everyones.

You don't know what you are: that's not my problem.


I don't see how anything is offtopic when the faith, the religion and the churches are based on god.

And the thread is about showing the fact that Chinese Government is pushing Atheism as the official "State's religion" again, so it is not talking about Faith in God, is talking about Facts not Faith (that is not a fact).

Taking about Faith is going Off Topic as the thread's owner was talking about Facts not Faith.

ATHEISM IS NOT A RELIGION.


People taking of crosses because of other believes.

A true believer don't need a fysical temple, the temple is you.

When you talk about science, god is science and science is god .

You don't know how to distinguish between Faith and Science: that is not the discussion of the thread however, open your own thread to discuss that.

YOU ARE OFF TOPIC.


Jesus was just one prophet, and putting your beliefs entire on him is lack of knowledege and mere deception of your teachers.

Yeah, right: say that to the Pope and 2B Christians in the world!


Faith is not justified by religion , an unknown entity, or some tales .

Faith is not the subject of this thread: how Chinese Government is pushing Atheism as State "Religion" is the subject here.

but you are probably an atheist and wouldnt comprehend

I don't get offended by somebody that is not even able to keep the subject of the discussion.  Smiley

AGAIN: I'M NOT TALKING THE PISS ON YOU I'M "JUST" EVADING THE CONVERSATION AS THIS THREAD IS NOT ABOUT YOUR FAITH IN GOD IS ABOUT HOW THE CHINESE GOVERNMENT IS PUSHING ATHEISM AS THE STATE'S "RELIGION"

Muslims don't divide between State's and Religion: Christians do. As this thread was opened about a Christian please try to use the same philosophy of the thread's owner as well.

"You are Muslim": you don't separate between State and Religion. I know.

Keeping the subject of the discussion is following the rules. Using the same philosophy of the thread's owner is intelligence.


Please, again, don't get offended by that: you are off topic that's why I'm not discussing it.



Thank You and best regards.


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You can say i am muslim yes, i am catholic aswell, i believe in buddhism  i believe that god is the same god that everyones.

You don't know what you are: that's not my problem.


I don't see how anything is offtopic when the faith, the religion and the churches are based on god.

And the thread is about showing the fact that Chinese Government is pushing Atheism as the official "State's religion" again, so it is not talking about Faith in God, is talking about Facts not Faith (that is not a fact).

Taking about Faith is going Off Topic as the thread's owner was talking about Facts not Faith.

ATHEISM IS NOT A RELIGION.


People taking of crosses because of other believes.

A true believer don't need a fysical temple, the temple is you.

When you talk about science, god is science and science is god .

You don't know how to distinguish between Faith and Science: that is not the discussion of the thread however, open your own thread to discuss that.

YOU ARE OFF TOPIC.


Jesus was just one prophet, and putting your beliefs entire on him is lack of knowledege and mere deception of your teachers.

Yeah, right: say that to the Pope and 2B Christians in the world!


Faith is not justified by religion , an unknown entity, or some tales .

Faith is not the subject of this thread: how Chinese Government is pushing Atheism as State "Religion" is the subject here.

but you are probably an atheist and wouldnt comprehend

I don't get offended by somebody that is not even able to keep the subject of the discussion.  Smiley

AGAIN: I'M NOT TALKING THE PISS ON YOU I'M "JUST" EVADING THE CONVERSATION AS THIS THREAD IS NOT ABOUT YOUR FAITH IN GOD IS ABOUT HOW THE CHINESE GOVERNMENT IS PUSHING ATHEISM AS THE STATE'S RELIGION


Please, again, don't get offended by that: you are off topic that's why I'm not discussing it.



Thank You and best regards.

i know who i am, i do not need to choose a religion or a non religion to define my personality, i just believe.


'Well i think that chinese is not adopting the atheism but showing that they don't want to get infected by a virus that has done more damage than good.

Christianity has been and is one of the religions that have caused mor tragedies and genocides trough history.


Everyone hs the right to choose what to believe but  christianity is full of deceptions , lies and manipulation.


Ofcourse it's clerly that pope and all hes followers will get mad when you tell them that jesus was never christian , jesus is the main source of their incomes.

I mean who in the hell sell tickets to go and see a pope? yes the vatican sells you tickets to enter.

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Christianity has been and is one of the religions that have caused mor tragedies and genocides trough history.

Everyone hs the right to choose what to believe but  christianity is full of deceptions , lies and manipulation.

Ofcourse it's clerly that pope and all hes followers will get mad when you tell them that jesus was never christian , jesus is the main source of their incomes.

I mean who in the hell sell tickets to go and see a pope? yes the vatican sells you tickets to enter.

You're confusing Catholicism with Christianity.
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i know who i am, i do not need to choose a religion or a non religion to define my personality, i just believe.


'Well i think that chinese is not adopting the atheism but showing that they don't want to get infected by a virus that has done more damage than good.

Christianity has been and is one of the religions that have caused mor tragedies and genocides trough history.


Everyone hs the right to choose what to believe but  christianity is full of deceptions , lies and manipulation.


Ofcourse it's clerly that pope and all hes followers will get mad when you tell them that jesus was never christian , jesus is the main source of their incomes.

"You are Muslim": you don't separate between State and Religion. I know.

That's something I would like about Islam as soon as I understand how Jesus Christ our Lord is the Messiah.

Now: "I'm the one Off Topic", speaking about Faith (and probably my problems) in somebody else's thread.

"Being smart is about giving your faults to others." => NO THANK YOU: You are Off Topic and can WE please stop spamming msc_de thread with MY (OUR?!?) problems?

I mean who in the hell sell tickets to go and see a pope? yes the vatican sells you tickets to enter.

Don't push me: I already have a faith problem this is not going to help, thank you for the illumination however.

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You're confusing Catholicism with Christianity.

Yes: Catholicism is a sub-set of Christianity.

But Muslims are able to don't separate between State and Religion and I think is an amazing thing. So don't liquidate them so easily.

Not separating between State and Religion is able to don't separate between Faith and Rationality: this is a very powerful tool.


Thank You: I was not hoping to find the lack of faith in Jesus Christ (our Lord) here, but discussing is helpful, so they said.


Best regards.


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September 01, 2015, 10:21:14 AM
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Lol you don't even know what you talk about you are as brainwashed as the ones you defend.


Jesus was buddhist end of story, do som research, you should know by now that there is a part of jesus not a lord, or a saviour missing.

The missing years is were he was picked up byt 3 monks , and took him as an aprentice, when he then came back at hes 30 years talking about the good life, he was talking about everything buddhism tought him.

He was an aprentice of tibetian buddhist monks, making him a buddhist monk aswell, he was probably shaved and most likely not even blond whit blue eyes.

Jesus is just a BRAND at this point of age were all you branwashed have bought it.


Catholism is form of christianity yes.


I might be a muslim or not, i am catholic, i am buddhist, i am rastafarian i am even science believer , as already told you i believe in many religions and one of them is not christianity because simple, it's full of lies and deceptions, and you are part of the lies and you keep lying to your self about a saviour that you have no clue about.

Read more about history, read about the Templars and how they hid the body of jesus because of they controverisals of their brand.


Saying that Religion has nothing to do whit faith is just stupid, because faith god, prophets churches even political acts against belief is about religion you are just missleaded and decieved just as many.


GOD is one , and the way to him is by you, not by some dude who is dead that you never ever met, someone you heard stories from someone who heard from some body who had heard somthing from somone who was told from some body else that they tought they heard about something about someone who some were in time might have lived.


You are just plain blinded , lecture your self more before arguing .



And you saying that you "KNOW" is a fact and prooff that you know nothing.

A real king do not need to say that he is a king. see something familiar i guess you won't

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September 01, 2015, 12:21:23 PM
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Lol you don't even know what you talk about you are as brainwashed as the ones you defend.


Jesus was buddhist end of story, do som research, you should know by now that there is a part of jesus not a lord, or a saviour missing.

The missing years is were he was picked up byt 3 monks , and took him as an aprentice, when he then came back at hes 30 years talking about the good life, he was talking about everything buddhism tought him.

He was an aprentice of tibetian buddhist monks, making him a buddhist monk aswell, he was probably shaved and most likely not even blond whit blue eyes.

Jesus is just a BRAND at this point of age were all you branwashed have bought it.


This is the story of Sun Wukong (from which the manga Dragonball is taken) not the history of Jesus Christ.

The "history" of Sun Wukong are narrated in the novel "Journey to the West".
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Journey_to_the_West

Journey to the West is a novel, the Bible is an historical book.

Sun Wukong never existed, Jesus Christ existed.

You are brainwashed by the TV and precisely by the manga Dragon Ball
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dragon_Ball

You are going Off Topic again discussing about Faith, but I'll give you my time for that as you are showing interest in knowing.

Catholism is form of christianity yes.

It is write Catholicism not Catholism.

Catholism is the FIRST form of Christianity born and, as every first child, the real one.


I might be a muslim or not, i am catholic, i am buddhist, i am rastafarian i am even science believer , as already told you i believe in many religions and one of them is not christianity because simple, it's full of lies and deceptions, and you are part of the lies and you keep lying to your self about a saviour that you have no clue about.

Read more about history, read about the Templars and how they hid the body of jesus because of they controverisals of their brand.


Thank You: you are giving confirmation, also if I didn't need it, that Jesus Christ was a real person.

Please don't confound the imaginary character Son Wukong with the real person Jesus Christ: one history is narrated in the NOVEL Journey to the West, the other history is narrated in the HISTORICAL BOOK Bible.

Sun Wukong never existed, Jesus Christ existed, however we are talking the same language here. Thank You.


Saying that Religion has nothing to do whit faith is just stupid, because faith god, prophets churches even political acts against belief is about religion you are just missleaded and decieved just as many.


I never said that "Religion has nothing to do whit faith".

I said that: YOU are talking about FAITH, and Faith is not the subject of this thread. The subject of this thread is how Chinese Government is pushing Atheism as the State's "Religion".

The fact that you are able to speak about State and Religion in the same argument is because you are Muslim, and Muslims don't separate between State and Religion.

Please don't use the powerful tool you have here (to not separate between State and Religion) to push the fault on me: you were talking about FAITH I was talking about Atheism.

Atheism is the lack of Faith and Chinese Government is pushing Atheism as the State's "Religion".


GOD is one , and the way to him is by you, not by some dude who is dead that you never ever met, someone you heard stories from someone who heard from some body who had heard somthing from somone who was told from some body else that they tought they heard about something about someone who some were in time might have lived.

Thank You, however I was teached the exact opposite.

Please respect my background until we reach an agreement.


You are just plain blinded , lecture your self more before arguing .

Please, again, don't push the fault on me cause you have a superior tool: slashing with your sword a disarmed "unbeliever" is not a smart thing to do.

You could do it of course.

And you saying that you "KNOW" is a fact and prooff that you know nothing.

A real king do not need to say that he is a king. see something familiar i guess you won't

That's an interesting view, again, you are killing the next to me to enforce this view: Violence is always stronger than Pacifism.

Again: you are off topic here, you are talking about Faith while the discussion is how Chinese Government is pushing Atheism as the State's "Religion".


Atheism is the lack of Faith.



Thank you and best regards.


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