Bitcoins recieved on "sending-adress" Help!!!!!!!!!

[Krampfl]

hello guys,

did a mistake, recieved my bitcoins on the sending-adress not on the recieving-adress.
how can i get this bitcoins back to my wallet??
they only don´t show up in my wallet, but this adress is always used to send bitcoins anyway
i just missed a step

hope you guys can help me

greetz
Krampfl

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[hexafraction]

There's no such thing as a "sending" address versus a receiving address. There's only addresses that are yours (meaning you can spend coins they contain), and addresses that aren't yours. If the sending address is for a company or other person, then they received the coins instead of you. See if you can contact them.

[jonnybravo0311]

It would be exceedingly helpful if you posted the transaction ID so we can give you some more information about what may have happened.

[Krampfl]

I´m using the old client of multibit
adress is 1CSwCPbNj1iDjGkMP7LucpXPW3R4qdoYuC
they both contain to my wallet, but the privatkey only contains to my recieving adress
they are still on my sending adress
in my wallet there are 2 adresses, one i recieve coins and one i send coins,
the bitcoins are on the adress is send coins without being on my wallet

greetz krampfl

[hexafraction]

Where did you get the sending address? A company? An exchange? A friend? Another wallet of yours?

[Hexcoin]

I´m using the old client of multibit
adress is 1CSwCPbNj1iDjGkMP7LucpXPW3R4qdoYuC
they both contain to my wallet, but the privatkey only contains to my recieving adress
they are still on my sending adress
in my wallet there are 2 adresses, one i recieve coins and one i send coins,
the bitcoins are on the adress is send coins without being on my wallet

greetz krampfl

is that Sending address of yours is in "Watch Only" mode? how does the address pop in your multibit if you dont own the private key of it? so confusing. give us your transaction ID

[Krampfl]

the sending adress belongs to my wallet aswell but it got no privatkey, i know its confusing...
i can only export the privat key of my wallet adress
as u can see on blockchain info i already sent an amount from this wallet via the sending adress which is the same my bitcoins went to but they dont show up in my wallet because they were sent directly to my sending adress
a´m i the only one who got two different adresses on my wallet?
there is one adress i can recieve coins and one i can send coins, when i send coins they are transfered from my wallet adress to my sending adress and from my sending adress to the adress i want to send coins

ID is d1992ee5e6c3d317334292387fb59c00b7a1fc91a751fc2d28fd7bca7e632cfe

greetz krampfl

[Krampfl]

i think there is no opportunity instead of asking the admins if they can transfer the bitcoins from the first adress to the second adress..
is this even possible and how can i contact them?


greetz krampfl

[Krampfl]

or another option is if i can get acess on this adress, but how?

[ianbelada2]

try sending your coins to a gambling a site and withdraw after it got confirmation

[Krampfl]

can you explain it a little bit better?
thx a lot in front

[Krampfl]

problem is i got a backup data where its shown that i own the sending adress aswell but i cannot export the privat key from this adress, don´t know if there is even a privat key which depends on this adress....
i cannnot send any coins from this adress because there is no amount on my wallet

[shorena]

the sending adress belongs to my wallet aswell but it got no privatkey, i know its confusing...

Its confusing because you use the wrong words, there are no sending addresses. If german[1] works better for you start a thread in the German section[2] and click "lock topic" on this one.

i can only export the privat key of my wallet adress

Yes, you can not export private keys of someone elses wallet.

as u can see on blockchain info i already sent an amount from this wallet via the sending adress which is the same my bitcoins went to but they dont show up in my wallet because they were sent directly to my sending adress

If you can send coins you must have the private keys for the address.

a´m i the only one who got two different adresses on my wallet?

I would assume most people have more addresses. IIRC multibit generates 5 for you by default.

there is one adress i can recieve coins and one i can send coins, when i send coins they are transfered from my wallet adress to my sending adress and from my sending adress to the adress i want to send coins

Thats not how bitcoin works. You dont have a balance, thats why there is no "sending address", its just that blockchain explorers show it that way. A transaction is using previously received transactions as inputs (left side on blockchain explorers, e.g. here[3]) and creates outputs that can in turn be used as inputs at a later date. If you received bitcoins at an address you can not send them "from" a different one as you can not retroactively change the transaction someone else created. You could create a transaction where you are sending coins to different address of yours. Is that what you did?

ID is d1992ee5e6c3d317334292387fb59c00b7a1fc91a751fc2d28fd7bca7e632cfe

greetz krampfl

In this case you formerly received 0.00199274 BTC on 12yxG5hP5FGew4m6kMVSoVGhAt6ZjuEBbD and 4 different inputs of 0.959, 0.41, 0.29 and 4.031 on 1JZ72DAJK1PDUg3hwE7LynKweF88eSmWMF. You used these 5 inputs to create 2 outputs. One to 1CSwCPbNj1iDjGkMP7LucpXPW3R4qdoYuC for 3.789 and one to 1JZ72DAJK1PDUg3hwE7LynKweF88eSmWMF for 1.90289274.

The way I know multibit is that the output to 1JZ is change. Because bitcoin has no balance but is only refering to old transactions you cant just spend part of your "balance" as your wallet shows it to you and keep the rest. The wallet composes a transaction for you using available inputs as needed. In this case you wanted to spend 3.789 BTC and the wallet used the best inputs according to its algorithms for this. Since it is very unlikely that you will have inputs that exactly match your requested output value + fees the wallet creates another output that is yours to spend. This concept is change as it is essentially the same when paying with cash.



[1] Assumption based on your name and the way you write.
[2] https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=16.0
[3] https://www.blocktrail.com/BTC/tx/d1992ee5e6c3d317334292387fb59c00b7a1fc91a751fc2d28fd7bca7e632cfe

Edit: spelling errors

[Krampfl]

thx a lot dude!!!
i´m a newbie in this case and you are using words i didn´t even know in connection with bitcoins

one last question in english,
are my coins lost or is there a chance to get them back?
of course i can´t spend coins of a wallet i don´t own but this adress belongs to me,
did a transaction probably a year ago (8,.... bitcoins)



greetz krampfl

[Hexcoin]

thx a lot dude!!!
i´m a newbie in this case and you are using words i didn´t even know in connection with bitcoins

one last question in english,
are my coins lost or is there a chance to get them back?
of course i can´t spend coins of a wallet i don´t own but this adress belongs to me,
did a transaction probably a year ago (8,.... bitcoins)



greetz krampfl

your coins isn't lost it will be always in your wallet, you just need to figure out where to find its private keys or maybe someone here who is familiar with multibit can help you with your problem. goodluck

[shorena]

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your coins isn't lost it will be always in your wallet, you just need to figure out where to find its private keys or maybe someone here who is familiar with multibit can help you with your problem. goodluck

We talked about it in the german section and OP did request coins from someone else to the address of a mixing service, thus the private key is indeed not under their control. OP used the address book feature from multibit to select an address, which is filled with addresses from other people. AFAIK OP tries to contact the mixing service now. My guess is that they will return the coins as this would otherwise be very damaging for their reputation.