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July 11, 2015, 05:10:22 PM
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I'm seeing a lot of FUD here as the price goes up. Keep squirming you greasy corrupt bastards, we're moving forward!
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July 11, 2015, 05:16:50 PM
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there is always FUD. honey badger dont care.

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July 11, 2015, 06:16:25 PM
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there has to be fud. it allows smart people to buy the coins from panic sellers. people should just research stuff they read instead of believing bullshit written to cause panic.
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July 11, 2015, 06:19:19 PM
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Honestly I am very confused I don't know what to belive anymore. Transaction spamming, bitcoin XT, not trust incoming transactions until they have ~30 confirmations plus fork here and fork there. So confused  Huh
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July 11, 2015, 06:22:07 PM
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Honestly I am very confused I don't know what to belive anymore. Transaction spamming, bitcoin XT, not trust incoming transactions until they have ~30 confirmations plus fork here and fork there. So confused  Huh
im in the same boat as well  Huh

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July 11, 2015, 06:48:52 PM
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I've been here for a couple years or so and there's always have been a lot of FUD, I think this is where I learned that expression, bitcoin has been moving forward since its inception and it will continue to do so, well, probably. Cheesy

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July 11, 2015, 07:03:51 PM
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Honestly I am very confused I don't know what to belive anymore. Transaction spamming, bitcoin XT, not trust incoming transactions until they have ~30 confirmations plus fork here and fork there. So confused  Huh

Yes, I agree.  Very confusing.

My understanding is as follows:

1. There is some consensus to raise the blocksize limit.  Something like "2 weeks after 75% of the hashing power signs a message"
to accept X MB blocks, Bitcoin core will update to do that.  I'm not sure where we are in the process.  But if you look at
a lot of the recent blocks, many are close to the 1MB, but not over, so it clearly hasn't happened yet.

2. There has been transaction stress tests but they haven't slowed down Bitcoin that much, except to push us against
the 1MB limit which are close to anyway.  The current spam rules are ok.

3. There was a recent blockchain fork due to SPV mining, which there is no good proposal for right now
to my knowledge, which can make incoming transactions more risky to accept, so if you're not running
your own node, it is suggested to wait 30 confirmations to make sure you're not relying on a faulty SPV.
This is unfortunate, but hopefully can be remedied at some point in the near future.

That's just my limited perspective take on it.  Someone more knowledgable should confirm/correct this.


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July 11, 2015, 07:47:21 PM
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Honestly I am very confused I don't know what to belive anymore. Transaction spamming, bitcoin XT, not trust incoming transactions until they have ~30 confirmations plus fork here and fork there. So confused  Huh
im in the same boat as well  Huh

with an Activity of 19 that is normal  Smiley . stop worrying, start reading and learning about BTC and stop looking (only) at the price.

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July 12, 2015, 04:46:24 AM
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I'm seeing a lot of FUD here as the price goes up. Keep squirming you greasy corrupt bastards, we're moving forward!

Good point. Usually when the price goes up the topics on here brighten up. People forget the bad stuff and start asking who Satoshi is!

Seems they are so stuck on the blockchain problems that they haven't even noticed the price surge!
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July 12, 2015, 04:58:15 AM
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Good things come when the FUD is around price is at 301 currently, next wave for Fud will push it to 310 at lease, so FUD is good for your body it keeps the mind healthy and fresh.

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July 12, 2015, 06:33:19 AM
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What FUD? All I see is FOMO

no.
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July 12, 2015, 07:30:43 AM
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Indeed

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July 12, 2015, 08:03:49 AM
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what i like about the current rise in price, is that it's like its not giving a fuck about what happened about the blockchain split and tx spam, i was expecting that the price would have been decreased but it wasn't the case like with the "gavincoin issue"
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July 12, 2015, 08:32:57 AM
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What FUD? All I see is FOMO

True.. People finally realize they wint be able to buy for 230 again, ever.. Now they are all scrambling for the final sub 300 pieces.
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July 12, 2015, 09:47:41 AM
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I dont see a reason to panic buy, we seen this 310 before then once it go there some stupid greedy person dumped it and land it at 250
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July 12, 2015, 10:30:22 AM
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FUD is linked to price... people talk smack when it goes down and they keep talking smack when it goes up again.

Just ignore all the noise going on, and look at the bigger picture. We have something with value and people scrambling to get a piece of it. The Bitcoins being released will soon

be halved, and that would make it more rare. The amount that would be released is also known... So you know it will stay rare, until the last Bitcoin is released.

Stay focused on collecting it.. not on the people who are making the noise to distract others.  Wink 

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July 12, 2015, 10:42:46 AM
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there has always been FUD and always will be, we should learn to decide on our own and based on our own knowledge and understanding of the market. not what some random person on the internet claims.
the funny thing is that trolls will spread their FUD no matter if price is going up or down, they just swim against the tide.


1. There is some consensus to raise the blocksize limit.  Something like "2 weeks after 75% of the hashing power signs a message"
to accept X MB blocks, Bitcoin core will update to do that.  I'm not sure where we are in the process.  But if you look at
a lot of the recent blocks, many are close to the 1MB, but not over, so it clearly hasn't happened yet.

2. There has been transaction stress tests but they haven't slowed down Bitcoin that much, except to push us against
the 1MB limit which are close to anyway.  The current spam rules are ok.


do you think the stress test (attacks) and the block size related?
i mean are they trying to force the increase?

Weak hands have been complaining about missing out ever since bitcoin was $1 and never buy the dip.
Whales are those who keep buying the dip.
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July 12, 2015, 11:42:39 AM
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I dont see a reason to panic buy, we seen this 310 before then once it go there some stupid greedy person dumped it and land it at 250

If you are here for long term, 210 or 310 doesn't matter, just enter the market already and hold, otherwise you will end up doing stupid because it's unavoidable, it's a odds game and you always end up getting caught panic buys and sells cycles.
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July 12, 2015, 11:57:24 AM
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there has always been FUD and always will be, we should learn to decide on our own and based on our own knowledge and understanding of the market. not what some random person on the internet claims.
the funny thing is that trolls will spread their FUD no matter if price is going up or down, they just swim against the tide.


1. There is some consensus to raise the blocksize limit.  Something like "2 weeks after 75% of the hashing power signs a message"
to accept X MB blocks, Bitcoin core will update to do that.  I'm not sure where we are in the process.  But if you look at
a lot of the recent blocks, many are close to the 1MB, but not over, so it clearly hasn't happened yet.

2. There has been transaction stress tests but they haven't slowed down Bitcoin that much, except to push us against
the 1MB limit which are close to anyway.  The current spam rules are ok.


do you think the stress test (attacks) and the block size related?
i mean are they trying to force the increase?

Much like the price, this is something people can only speculate about.  Everyone has their own motives and I doubt we'll ever be able to know for sure what the real reason is for the stress tests.  Perhaps it is purely scientific, to see how the network reacts, or perhaps there's some other agenda at play and it's to prove a point.  There's no denying that the consequences of the test have got more people talking about the issue, but how much of that discussion is actually constructive is another matter, heh.  If anything, it only seems to be reinforcing and entrenching people's previously held stances.  Those that support 1MB say that the transactions with the highest fees are still making it through, which proves the system works.  Those that support a larger blocksize say this proves 1MB isn't sustainable and will lead to a two-tier service and Bitcoin becoming a niche for a small minority, rather than an open system that's available to everyone.  It won't be sustainable because the network will need to generate more in fees as the block reward diminishes over time and limiting the blocksize also limits the quantity of fees that can be collected.  Everyone agrees it has to scale, but few can agree on how yet.

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July 12, 2015, 12:07:37 PM
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Honestly I am very confused I don't know what to belive anymore. Transaction spamming, bitcoin XT, not trust incoming transactions until they have ~30 confirmations plus fork here and fork there. So confused  Huh
im in the same boat as well  Huh

Bitcoin is the bleeding edge. It's the place where problems are getting found, and (hopefully!) solved.

No other cryptocurrency is being battle tested like this.

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