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July 20, 2015, 03:22:50 PM
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The House Energy and Commerce Committee has sent a letter to Planned Parenthood requesting Dr. Deborah Nucatola brief the committee on all of the issues she discusses in the video.




http://energycommerce.house.gov/sites/republicans.energycommerce.house.gov/files/114/Letters/20150717PPFA.pdf




These are legitimate questions that I would like to see answered, at this point, just to eliminate doubt that is being manufactured, as evidenced by the increasing hysteria displayed in the headlines being posted in an attempt to create a reality that doesn't exist.  Why are the questions coming from the House Energy and Commerce Committee though?


Another legitimate question, from a comment on youtube:

I'm a bit confused. If they don't do this, and don't sell the stuff, why did the good doctor agree to meet with folks posing as buyers looking for organs?

No hysteria.


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July 21, 2015, 12:48:50 AM
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Planned Parenthood Warns More Undercover Sting Videos Could Soon Emerge — Some Likely Racially Charged


Planned Parenthood told Congress Monday that a secretly recorded video released last week by an anti-abortion group is fraudulent and part of a years-long pattern of illegal harassment aimed at prohibiting abortion.

The abortion provider also warned that more undercover sting videos could soon emerge, some of which may be racially charged.


The Center for Medical Progress reportedly said it plans to release a video every week.

In a letter to the House Energy and Commerce Committee, Planned Parenthood said it fell victim to a fake company called Biomax Procurement Services that posed as a buyer of human tissues. It was actually created by David Daleiden, an official of the group that released the video, and was engaged in “a campaign of corporate espionage” targeting Planned Parenthood, the letter said.

“A group of extremists who have intimidated women and doctors for years – in their agenda to ban abortion completely – are not `documenting’ misdeeds; they are trying to create them, quite unsuccessfully,” Planned Parenthood wrote to lawmakers.


In a show of defiance – at least for now – Planned Parenthood also told the House committee that it has not yet decided whether it will honor lawmakers’ request for a briefing by Dr. Deborah Nucatola, who speaks at length in the video about obtaining fetal tissue for research. Nucatola is the organization’s senior director of medical services.

Planned Parenthood’s letter represents its fullest response so far to that video, which was released last week by the Center for Medical Progress.

Biomax activities included trying to induce Planned Parenthood centers to sell fetal organs for up to $1,600, the letter said, which would likely violate laws banning commercial fetal tissue sales. Those efforts were rejected, according to the letter.

In addition, the letter says Daleiden was involved in secretly recording Planned Parenthood staff and patients at least 65 times over the last eight years. That could yield thousands of hours of recordings that Daleiden could heavily edit to make false charges, the letter said.

Daleiden did not immediately respond to an emailed request for comment.

But in a statement on its website, the center said Planned Parenthood’s initial decision against sending Nucatola to the House committee shows “contempt for the law against selling baby parts.” It said the center “follows all applicable laws” in its investigations and said it plans to release “more clear evidence” that Planned Parenthood profits from selling fetal organs.

Planned Parenthood wrote that Daleiden launched Biomax three years ago, even setting up exhibits at Planned Parenthood conferences. The group wrote that it still doesn’t know “the full extent of Biomax’s illicit conduct.”

Biomax’s activities included entering an area where fetal tissue is processed, where any recording would be “an extremely serious invasion of our patients’ privacy and dignity,” the letter said.

In last week’s video, Nucatola discusses how the group sometimes provides tissue from aborted fetuses for medical research. That conversation, over wine and lunch, was with two actors posing as purchasers of fetal organs and was recorded last July, according to the center.

A nine-minute excerpt the center posted online shows Nucatola saying her organization charges $30 to $100 for such procedures. But in the full version lasting more than two hours, she repeatedly says those prices only cover the procedures’ costs, are not for profit and are only performed with the patient’s consent.

Anti-abortion groups, members of Congress and some Republican presidential hopefuls have used the recording to assail Planned Parenthood, including accusing it of possible illegal activity such as harvesting fetal organs for profit. Planned Parenthood says it has done nothing illegal.

The Energy and Commerce Committee is one of three Republican-led congressional panels that has begun looking into the video. That panel has asked for a briefing this month by Nucatola.

But Planned Parenthood’s letter says it would send a team headed by a different official. Citing GOP politicians’ allegations of possibly illegal activity, the group said it was consulting attorneys about letting Nucatola appear and is “still assessing this aspect of your request.”


http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2015/07/20/planned-parenthood-warns-more-undercover-sting-videos-could-soon-emerge-some-likely-racially-charged/


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July 21, 2015, 01:09:39 AM
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I honestly don't believe these people should be releasing videos, 1 a week. Just release them all together already and let it all be out there.
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July 21, 2015, 03:26:56 AM
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I honestly don't believe these people should be releasing videos, 1 a week. Just release them all together already and let it all be out there.


Death by a thousand paper cuts...



Confederate Flag Mentions By CNN? 493. CNN Mentions Of Planned Parenthood Baby Body Parts Trafficking? 7…



* CNN has had 493 mentions of the Confederate flag since June 17 (only 188 of these even mention alleged church shooter Dylann Roof), and managed 167 in the first six days. In the first six days of the Planned Parenthood scandal, they managed 7 mentions, less than 5 percent what you’d expect if you considered those stories only of equal importance.

* The Washington Post mentioned the Confederate flag 624 times in the last month (only 135 of these mention Roof), and 126 times in the first six days. The Washington Post has 28 stories mentioning the Planned Parenthood video in the first six days, just over 22 percent of what you’d expect if you considered the harvesting of organs from aborted babies to be merely as important as the Confederate flag topic.

* The New York Times has run stories and essays on the Confederate flag 149 times since June 17 (and only 39 of those mention Roof), 41 of those in the first six days. That compares to three stories on Planned Parenthood during the same window, just 7 percent of what you’d expect if the New York Times considered those stories merely of equal importance.

*Nexis shows 70 mentions of the Confederate flag on Politico.com in the last month (only 18 mention Roof), 29 of those in the first six days of the story. For the Planned Parenthood video, it shows 4 stories.


http://thefederalist.com/2015/07/20/ideas-for-reporters-struggling-to-cover-planned-parenthood/


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LOS ANGELES, July 21—A second undercover video shows Planned Parenthood Federation of America’s Medical Directors’ Council President, Dr. Mary Gatter, haggling over payments for intact fetal specimens and offering to use a “less crunchy technique” to get more intact body parts.

It is similar to last week’s viral video showing PPFA Senior Director of Medical Services Dr. Deborah Nucatola admitting to using partial-birth abortions to get intact parts and suggesting a price range of $30 to $100 per specimen.

Gatter is a senior official within Planned Parenthood and is President of the Medical Directors’ Council, the central committee of all Planned Parenthood affiliate medical directors.

Actors posing as buyers ask Gatter, “What would you expect for intact [fetal] tissue?”

“Well, why don’t you start by telling me what you’re used to paying!” Gatter replies.

Gatter continues: “You know, in negotiations whoever throws out the figure first is at a loss, right?” She explains, “I just don’t want to lowball,” before suggesting, “$75 a specimen.”

Gatter twice recites Planned Parenthood messaging on fetal tissue collection, “We’re not in it for the money,” and “The money is not the important thing,” but she immediately qualifies each statement with, respectively, “But what were you thinking of?” and, “But it has to be big enough that it’s worthwhile for me.”

Gatter also admits that in prior fetal tissue deals, Planned Parenthood received payment in spite of incurring no cost: “It was logistically very easy for us, we didn’t have to do anything. So there was compensation for this.” She accepts a higher price of $100 per specimen understanding that it will be only for high-quality fetal organs: “Now, this is for tissue that you actually take, not just tissue that someone volunteers and you can’t find anything, right?”

By the lunch’s end, Gatter suggests $100 per specimen is not enough and concludes, “Let me just figure out what others are getting, and if this is in the ballpark, then it’s fine, if it’s still low, then we can bump it up. I want a Lamborghini.”

The sale or purchase of human fetal tissue is a federal felony punishable by up to 10 years in prison or a fine of up to $500,000 (42 U.S.C. 289g-2).

Gatter also suggests modifying the abortion procedure to get more intact fetuses: “I wouldn’t object to asking Ian, who’s our surgeon who does the cases, to use an IPAS [manual vacuum aspirator] at that gestational age in order to increase the odds that he’s going to get an intact specimen.”

Gatter seems aware this violates rules governing tissue collection, but disregards them: “To me, that’s kind of a specious little argument.” Federal law requires that no alteration in the timing or method of abortion be done for the purposes of fetal tissue collection (42 U.S.C. 289g-1).

The video, like last week’s featuring Dr. Nucatola, was produced by The Center for Medical Progress and is part of CMP’s nearly 3-year-long investigative journalism study, “Human Capital.”

CMP’s Project Lead David Daleiden notes, “Planned Parenthood’s top leadership admits they harvest aborted baby parts and receive payments for this. Planned Parenthood’s only denial is that they make money off of baby parts, but that is a desperate lie that becomes more and more untenable as CMP reveals Planned Parenthood’s business operations and statements that prove otherwise.”

Seven State Governments have opened investigations into Planned Parenthood’s sale of aborted fetal body parts, as have three Congressional Committees. The House Energy and Commerce Committee has called PPFA’s Senior Director of Medical Services to testify this month about the organization’s fetal tissue harvesting.


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July 21, 2015, 03:08:02 PM
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Planned Parenthood defector says loophole lets clinics profit from fetal organ sales





Abby Johnson wasn’t horrified by last week’s undercover video showing a Planned Parenthood doctor describing over lunch and wine how to “crush” a fetus during an abortion to preserve the organs because she’s been there.

In her previous role as clinic director for a Planned Parenthood facility in East Texas, Ms. Johnson said part of her job was to sift through the aborted fetal tissue and organs, pack them in a container with dry ice, check the consent form and “ship them off.”

Like Dr. Deborah Nucatola, Planned Parenthood senior director of medical services, Ms. Johnson said she and her colleagues would talk about their work, even indulge in “gallows humor” as they wound down after hours over margaritas and chips.

“I lived that life,” said Ms. Johnson in an interview. “I worked at Planned Parenthood for eight years at an abortion facility, and I ran the facility, and that was very common for us after a long day of work — after a long day of performing abortions, the staff going out to eat, having drinks, talking about the day.”

That’s no longer her life. Ms. Johnson, 35, resigned in 2009 after witnessing an ultrasound-guided abortion. Three years ago, she founded And Then There Were None, dedicated to helping abortion clinic employees leave the business by providing counseling, recruiting services, legal fees, even a month’s worth of replacement salary.

The video prompted her to write an open letter last week to Dr. Nucatola offering assistance and saying, “I get how something grotesque to others can seem ordinary.”



http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/jul/19/abby-johnson-planned-parenthood-defector-loophole-/


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July 21, 2015, 04:29:41 PM
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FULL FOOTAGE: Second Planned Parenthood Senior Executive Haggles Over Baby Parts Prices


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vwAGsjoorvk



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July 21, 2015, 05:12:10 PM
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i see no problem with this. Why let fetus parts go to waste? Fetuses aren't people anyways

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July 21, 2015, 05:42:45 PM
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i see no problem with this. Why let fetus parts go to waste? Fetuses aren't people anyways

It's illegal to sell the organs for profit. I believe it was also said that it was considered "mental torture" to have a women see a sonogram of her fetus when she is having it aborted, and they use the machines to turn the fetus so they can get the good organs without crushing them. They will also turn the fetus around (if it is backwards) to get more organs, which they are not supposed to do.
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I doubt they will be prosecuted many people wont even care or hear about it.
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July 21, 2015, 07:36:49 PM
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i see no problem with this. Why let fetus parts go to waste? Fetuses aren't people anyways


Not people... But have value for life for other people, ready to buy this "waste"... Illogical. Waste has no value. If it does then it is not waste. Why creating a law forbidding people from buying or selling baby body parts?

Do it openly if it is waste.


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July 22, 2015, 04:19:31 PM
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The House Energy and Commerce Committee has sent a letter to Planned Parenthood requesting Dr. Deborah Nucatola brief the committee on all of the issues she discusses in the video.




http://energycommerce.house.gov/sites/republicans.energycommerce.house.gov/files/114/Letters/20150717PPFA.pdf




These are legitimate questions that I would like to see answered, at this point, just to eliminate doubt that is being manufactured, as evidenced by the increasing hysteria displayed in the headlines being posted in an attempt to create a reality that doesn't exist.  Why are the questions coming from the House Energy and Commerce Committee though?


Another legitimate question, from a comment on youtube:

I'm a bit confused. If they don't do this, and don't sell the stuff, why did the good doctor agree to meet with folks posing as buyers looking for organs a medical biotech start up looking for research tissue?

No hysteria.




I fixed your quote to remove all the hysteria and spin and return it to reality.

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July 22, 2015, 04:25:26 PM
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i see no problem with this. Why let fetus parts go to waste? Fetuses aren't people anyways


Not people... But have value for life for other people, ready to buy this "waste"... Illogical. Waste has no value. If it does then it is not waste. Why creating a law forbidding people from buying or selling baby body parts?

Do it openly if it is waste.




Anything can have value. Do you throw away garbage or recyclables that have no value? They have value to the companies that sort and sell it, or to the dumps that harvest methane from decomposing garbage.

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The House Energy and Commerce Committee has sent a letter to Planned Parenthood requesting Dr. Deborah Nucatola brief the committee on all of the issues she discusses in the video.




http://energycommerce.house.gov/sites/republicans.energycommerce.house.gov/files/114/Letters/20150717PPFA.pdf




These are legitimate questions that I would like to see answered, at this point, just to eliminate doubt that is being manufactured, as evidenced by the increasing hysteria displayed in the headlines being posted in an attempt to create a reality that doesn't exist.  Why are the questions coming from the House Energy and Commerce Committee though?


Another legitimate question, from a comment on youtube:

I'm a bit confused. If they don't do this, and don't sell the stuff, why did the good doctor agree to meet with folks posing as buyers looking for organs a medical biotech start up looking for research tissue?

No hysteria.




I fixed your quote to remove all the hysteria and spin and return it to reality.


And I will NEVER edit anything from you in my replies...

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July 22, 2015, 04:37:21 PM
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Kirsten Powers: Crush Planned Parenthood


Planned Parenthood head Cecile Richards apologized last week for the uncompassionate tone her senior director of medical research, Deborah Nucatola, used to explain the process by which she harvests aborted body parts to be provided for medical research.

Nucatola had been caught on an undercover video talking to anti-abortion activists posing as representatives of a biological tissue procurement company. The abortion doctor said, “I’d say a lot of people want liver,” and “a lot of people want intact hearts these days.” Explaining how she could perform later-term abortions to aid the harvesting of such intact organs, she said, “We’ve been very good at getting heart, lung, liver, because we know that, so I’m not gonna crush that part, I’m gonna basically crush below, I’m gonna crush above, and I’m gonna see if I can get it all intact.”

A second undercover video released Tuesday shows another Planned Parenthood official talking about using a “less crunchy” way to perform abortions while preserving salable fetal tissue.

This is stomach-turning stuff. But the problem here is not one of tone. It’s the crushing. It’s the organ harvesting of  fetuses that abortion-rights activists want us to believe have no more moral value than a fingernail. It’s the lie that these are not human beings worthy of protection. There is no nice way to talk about this. As my friend and former Obama White House staffer Michael Wear tweeted, “It should bother us as a society that we have use for aborted human organs, but not the baby that provides them.”

Richards worked to discredit the video by complaining it was “heavily edited.” But the nearly three-hour unedited video — a nauseating journey through the inner workings of the abortion industry — was posted at the same time as the edited video. Richards intoned menacingly that the video was “secretly recorded.” So what? When Mitt Romney was caught by “secret video” making his 47% remarks, the means of attaining the information was not the focus of the story.

Planned Parenthood’s public relations firm also portrayed the crushing and organ harvesting as a “humanitarian undertaking,” and tried to tarnish the maker of the video with a white paper that deemed him unfit because he once wrote an article for the “opposition” outlet The Weekly Standard, a well-respected conservative magazine. Let’s talk about anything except the information disclosed by Nucatola.

It’s a measure of how damning the video is that Planned Parenthood’s usual defenders were nowhere to be found. There was total silence from The New York Times editorial board and their 10 (out of 11) pro-abortion rights columnists. Hillary Clinton and Nancy Pelosi — both  recipients of Planned Parenthood’s highest honor, the Margaret Sanger Award — have been mum. But a few loyalists took up the cause, including Washington Post columnist Petula Dvorak, whose column was headlined: “Planned Parenthood deserves to be supported, not attacked.” Actually, it's fetuses who are under attack. By Planned Parenthood.

Dvorak invoked a common defense against the barbarism of late-term abortion: “The details are gruesome, as are many medical procedures and how doctors and nurses tell stories about the operating room.” But nobody is morally repulsed by stories of heart transplants.

Mississippi abortion doctor Willie Parker — who was lauded by Esquire for his “abortion ministry” — ran with the trope that direct quotes from a Planned Parenthood doctor constitute a vicious attack, but went a step further: He compared Nucatola to Jesus. “It's no secret that my frame of reference for the work that I do and in terms of generating compassion is related to my religious understanding and, in particular, my Christian religious understanding,” Parker told Cosmopolitan magazine. “I'm thinking about a strong parallel between what's happening to my colleague (Nucatola) and the trial week of Jesus before he was crucified (as) he was marched from place to place, asked to answer allegations.”


When abortion doctors are elevated to gods who may not be questioned or held accountable, society has officially gone off the rails.




http://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2015/07/21/planned-parenthood-abortion-fetus-parts-kirsten-powers/30426475/


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Congress’ planned crackdown on Planned Parenthood is looking increasingly real.



Republican leaders are weighing a series of votes to defund Planned Parenthood — possibly beginning before the August recess — after the release of a second undercover sting video allegedly showing one of the abortion rights group’s officials discussing the sale of fetal organs.

The anti-Planned Parenthood drive extends to the House and Senate: The No. 2 Republican in each chamber said he expects votes to cut off federal funding for the group soon.

House Majority Leader Kevin McCarthy (R-Calif.) told reporters Tuesday he’s anticipating amendments to strip the money over the course of the fall government funding debate. That’s in addition to a spate of Hill hearings he said are aimed at learning “the facts … and what’s truly is going on.”


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July 22, 2015, 04:48:16 PM
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i see no problem with this. Why let fetus parts go to waste? Fetuses aren't people anyways


Not people... But have value for life for other people, ready to buy this "waste"... Illogical. Waste has no value. If it does then it is not waste. Why creating a law forbidding people from buying or selling baby body parts?

Do it openly if it is waste.




Anything can have value. Do you throw away garbage or recyclables that have no value? They have value to the companies that sort and sell it, or to the dumps that harvest methane from decomposing garbage.


When does this garbage stops being garbage and have value for a buyer? 10 weeks? 15 weeks? 20 weeks? Or is it after the garbage took its first breath on its own?

http://news.nationalpost.com/health/end-of-life-debate-turns-to-newborns-postnatal-abortion-morally-acceptable-in-some-cases-ethicist-says




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July 22, 2015, 08:41:17 PM
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Why Liberals Don’t Care If Planned Parenthood Sells Baby Parts

Planned Parenthood may do some uncomfortable things, but ultimately aborting babies and selling their parts is worth it.



In case you haven’t seen the disturbing news trending on Facebook, on Twitter, or here at The Federalist, Planned Parenthood stands accused of harvesting parts of babies killed in abortion and selling those parts to companies for research. It’s not surprising if this is news to you, since there’s essentially a media blackout on the subject. The Center for Medical Progress has released a second video now with yet another Planned Parenthood doctor discussing both abortion procedures for harvesting body parts of babies and the financial incentives for doing so.

I’m unabashedly pro-life. It’s horrifying for me to think of this being true. My feelings about abortion and the sanctity of life plays heavily into my reading and watching of the videos about this subject, and it should be no surprise that people as passionate about abortion rights have an equally passionate opposite reaction.

My friend Anne was willing to talk to me about her feelings on this story. Listening and hearing the perspective of a supporter of Planned Parenthood and its mission may surprise you. It’s hearing, actually hearing, the viewpoints of others that lets us understand what makes us different and why.


The Undercover Organization Isn’t Credible

Here’s how the other side is hearing this news.

“I am very firmly of the belief this particular story is BS,” Anne said. “Nothing with the organization that released it adds up. Why have they had the video a year? Why did they use the old ‘20/20’ clip? Why are their social media accounts so thin? Twitter, Facebook, YouTube, etc., are all only about this.”

Other videos have come out and sparked huge discussions across the Internet in recent times, such as the infamous New York City catcall video—a story also rife with controversy. When viral videos come out, usually the first response of the media (and those who share them rapidly across social media) is not to question and attempt to discredit the source but rather to engage the ideas and discuss the societal implications of what sparked the popularity of the story.

The mainstream media (or MSM) isn’t leaping on this. I asked if that made it more difficult to believe, since I’d assumed so, but she disagreed. “No, but I do think it’s damning none of them have considered it credible enough to cover. From the old ‘20/20’ footage, when Planned Parenthood faced the same allegations that were also proven false, other MSM outlets did cover it. So it doesn’t shake out that this is a vast liberal cover up.”

She also said human trafficking is not a reason to defund Planned Parenthood: “Shady black-market medical parts happens in every area of medicine. Do we stop doing organ transplants because some hinky stuff goes down there? Research using fetal tissue is valuable. This video is click bait of the worst kind because of the horrifying nature of dilation and extraction—the banning of which has done nothing to reduce later abortions and only limited the choices of women facing impossible decisions about the end of their pregnancies where their baby probably will not survive. Nobody waits until 20-plus weeks for kicks. I think they should be subject to the same laws and regulations covering any medical donation or waste.”


Planned Parenthood Does Good Things

To her, Planned Parenthood is more than just abortion. “They offer a valuable service to the community in terms of STD testing and prevention, pregnancy counseling, including prenatal care, mammograms, well-woman care. I have never known anyone at a Planned Parenthood to try and talk a woman into an abortion. I had two miscarriages. I tried for two years to get pregnant. My beliefs about what those pregnancies were and were not in terms of human life are irrelevant. If we want to reduce abortion, we need to look at programs like Colorado had. I don’t believe that limits on abortion are effective or lead to safer, better outcomes.”


I asked what would happen if abortion were made illegal (besides saving lives of babies).

“It would be economically devastating for women who either must carry a pregnancy to term, or travel many miles for possibly days to have an abortion,” she said. “If someone at Planned Parenthood were doing something so blatantly illegal, unethical, and immoral, and placing an organization that provides a service so critical for millions of women at risk, I would be the first to call for their heads. How dare someone put women and their children at risk in such a fashion.”

On the contrary, I think Planned Parenthood, at its very core, puts women at risk. By fostering abortion, the existence of Planned Parenthood means babies who are killed before they were even born are more than at risk. I don’t think of them as a legitimate source of health care. The very idea of those babies not only dying but then being sold piecemeal for research is enough to nauseate me.

Like many other Americans, my friend views life differently than I do. It’s tempting to shout them down, but we can’t change hearts if we don’t know where they’re at. At the core, even if this video is clickbait and totally orchestrated nonsense, Planned Parenthood aborts babies. If you see these children as children, there’s no excuse for abortion. If you see them as nothing more than medical waste, no excuse needs to be made.


http://thefederalist.com/2015/07/22/why-liberals-dont-care-if-planned-parenthood-sells-baby-parts/








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Planned Parenthood may do some uncomfortable things, but ultimately aborting babies and selling their parts is worth it.



In case you haven’t seen the disturbing news trending on Facebook, on Twitter, or here at The Federalist, Planned Parenthood stands accused of harvesting parts of babies killed in abortion and selling those parts to companies for research. It’s not surprising if this is news to you, since there’s essentially a media blackout on the subject. The Center for Medical Progress has released a second video now with yet another Planned Parenthood doctor discussing both abortion procedures for harvesting body parts of babies and the financial incentives for doing so.
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I know I talked to someone who also said that the organization that taped these seems "shady". I think that's the main problem. But the problem I have with that is:

1) Mainstream media (MSM) keeps calling the footage heavily edited, but you can see that is not an issue, especially since the full length video is out. It's also not an issue because the short one is not edited in a "shady" way, and yet it's STILL being reported as heavily edited in the MSM.

2) You can watch the footage yourself. But people don't! They heard it being called "heavily edited" and think it's a crock, so they won't bother watching, or think it was a set up and don't take it seriously.

3) People who want the benefits don't want anything to happen to PP. Benefits such as birth control pills, STD checks, etc. And of course those who want the research done, don't want it to stop. They don't care how it gets done. The ends justify the means. They are figuratively holding their hands over their ears and singing "la la la, I don't hear you".

4) As soon as I saw this, my first thought was, the powers that be knows, wants it to happen, and will not care. TPTB own the media, this will get slandered and/or not aired. They will discredit it until it disappears.

I'm also mad at the ones releasing it, because it makes them look bad releasing every few weeks instead of all at once.
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Planned Parenthood may do some uncomfortable things, but ultimately aborting babies and selling their parts is worth it.



In case you haven’t seen the disturbing news trending on Facebook, on Twitter, or here at The Federalist, Planned Parenthood stands accused of harvesting parts of babies killed in abortion and selling those parts to companies for research. It’s not surprising if this is news to you, since there’s essentially a media blackout on the subject. The Center for Medical Progress has released a second video now with yet another Planned Parenthood doctor discussing both abortion procedures for harvesting body parts of babies and the financial incentives for doing so.
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I know I talked to someone who also said that the organization that taped these seems "shady". I think that's the main problem. But the problem I have with that is:

1) Mainstream media (MSM) keeps calling the footage heavily edited, but you can see that is not an issue, especially since the full length video is out. It's also not an issue because the short one is not edited in a "shady" way, and yet it's STILL being reported as heavily edited in the MSM.

2) You can watch the footage yourself. But people don't! They heard it being called "heavily edited" and think it's a crock, so they won't bother watching, or think it was a set up and don't take it seriously.

3) People who want the benefits don't want anything to happen to PP. Benefits such as birth control pills, STD checks, etc. And of course those who want the research done, don't want it to stop. They don't care how it gets done. The ends justify the means. They are figuratively holding their hands over their ears and singing "la la la, I don't hear you".

4) As soon as I saw this, my first thought was, the powers that be knows, wants it to happen, and will not care. TPTB own the media, this will get slandered and/or not aired. They will discredit it until it disappears.

I'm also mad at the ones releasing it, because it makes them look bad releasing every few weeks instead of all at once.







Democrats Seek Federal Investigations of Group Behind Planned Parenthood Videos



Let the harvest continue.


Rep. Jan Schakowsky (D-IL) released a letter sent to U.S. Attorney General Loretta Lynch and California Attorney General Kamala Harris demanding they investigate the Center for Medical Progress for the videotaped sting operation that revealed Planned Parenthood traffics in body parts of aborted babies.

The letter was signed by three other Democrats, Rep. Jerrold Nadler (NY), Rep. Zoe Lofgren (CA) and Rep. Yvette Clarke (CA).

Schakowsky, Lofgren, Nadler and Clarke send letter to Attorneys General asking for investigation into Center for Medical Progress
July 22, 2015
WASHINGTON, DC – Reps. Jan Schakowsky, Zoe Lofgren, Jerry Nadler, and Yvette Clarke sent a letter to U.S. Attorney General Loretta Lynch and California Attorney General Kamala Harris on Tuesday requesting an investigation into the Center for Medical Progress and the selectively-edited video of a Planned Parenthood physician that it recently released.

According to press reports, the Center for Medical Progress created a fake limited liability corporation in advance of the meeting it recorded with a Planned Parenthood doctor. The video was captured by actors using fake identification to pose as buyers from that fake human biologics company. This elaborate scheme raises serious questions about whether any federal or state laws were violated in securing the LLC or the personal identification that were part of its execution.

The video was also filmed without the consent of the Planned Parenthood doctor, which may violate California law.

There are other questions about possible coordination between the Center for Medical Progress and Members of Congress who knew about the video weeks in advance of its release.

“This is a new low, even for anti-abortion activists who will stop at nothing in their effort to undermine a woman’s right to choose,” said Schakowsky. “I believe the Center for Medical Progress may have broken the law in developing and executing this unbelievably elaborate and troubling scheme, and all Americans should have concerns about that. I hope that Attoneys General Lynch and Harris will investigate this case.”


http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2015/07/surprise-democrats-seek-federal-state-investigations-of-group-behind-planned-parenthood-videos/


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