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September 24, 2012, 01:02:23 PM
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The last price is not 0.64.... Still not much support.
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September 24, 2012, 01:04:00 PM
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At 0.5 % per day, this is still the highest dividends on the GLBSE.

Really? Take a look at BIF.1YR.LOAN, they provide 4%/wk, while OBSIHRPT provide (100.5%^7)-1 (3.553%/wk).

Perhaps, the new "maybe ponzi" WIT offer 0.2~1.2%. But with the unknowns of HRPT which they may offer 0.2-0.5%, the price would likely to fluctuate greatly. Perhaps it's likely to go 0% in not a long time


Take your own risk.

Actually, the latest price is .085, so if you buy at that price you actually get 4.1% per week. I suppose I should have said "HRPT is still one of the highest dividends on the GLBSE."

If dividend was reduced by 50%, why is anyone willing to pay more than 1/2 of the IPO price for this?
Was the risk reduced?
If last weekends dump of new shares failed (no buyers at that price), can you keep up the reduced div payments?
I think one of the most important question is: "Did the "debt collector business" paid you the weekly dividends or was it automatically reinvested into "building the location?"



Sad.

Is there any chance of dividends getting back up to 1%/day? (Although I'm not complaining about .5%/day, that's still pretty good.)

Our current avg conversion rate is in the very low $11's. If BTC prices drop below that, 1% is achievable. I was using new sales to help move up the avg conversion rate, but the market seems to be saturated now, so it will take reduced coupons to attempt this.

If BTC prices continue their slow climb, expect further reductions in coupon rate, as I can no longer adjust our avg conversion rate quickly via new sales.

We should see 0.5% for the next 4-5 days, but if next Friday's payment is as anemic as the last two, coupon rates will drop further. Consider this notice that the "Estimated Minimum Daily Payout" may be reduced if we continue to be battered by this "perfect storm" of unfortunate circumstances.



So I guess div could go lower if BTC stays at this level Sad
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September 24, 2012, 01:06:38 PM
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It doesnt help when "low risk funds" you are invested in go and buy this shit. That happened to me with pirate now its happening again with this ponzi. Im pretty disillusioned at this point.

This is the cancer killing bitcoin.

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September 24, 2012, 01:16:57 PM
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This is the cancer killing bitcoin.

Never invest in a Ponzi more than you can afford to lose (and be ready to run fast as hell at the first alarm bell).
But yes: All of us should learn to require lots of guarantees before entering any trade, but this would probably slow the BTC economy to a standstill.
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September 24, 2012, 01:46:05 PM
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So I guess div could go lower if BTC stays at this level Sad
If the investment vehicle being used continues to pay consistently, and the fiat-USD conversion stays consistent, the dividend will stay consistent.  The price people are willing to sell the bond for is irrelevant, because it doesn't change the initial amount invested.  When new bonds are issued, they are issued at .1, so no new bonds are being issued, but new bonds aren't necessary to maintain the dividend (except in a ponzi, but opinions about that are not relevant to how this bond allegedly works).  The benefit to new bonds before was that they were buying more USD because the conversion rate was going up.  The bond could stay this low and the dividend could come back up if the investment vehicle continues to pay consistently and the fiat-BTC conversion rate drops.  Technically, the dividend could go up if the investment vehicly paid less while the fiat-USD rate dropped more, or it could go down while the investment vehicle pays more if the fiat-USD rate climbs as well.

Summary: The fiat-BTC conversion rate staying consistent would remove it as a factor on dividend rates, not lower them.
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