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September 24, 2012, 04:58:27 PM
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Theymos might get a paper to turn over all logs, even if he is in another country, they do help each other out. 5 million in loss is a great reason to do so.
Forum accounts can't always be directly tied to BTCST accounts though.

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September 24, 2012, 05:00:11 PM
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Theymos might get a paper to turn over all logs, even if he is in another country, they do help each other out. 5 million in loss is a great reason to do so.
Forum accounts can't always be directly tied to BTCST accounts though.

No, but they probably can be frequently enough to provide useful information.

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September 24, 2012, 05:01:19 PM
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Why would they. You list it on your webpage that your profile links to.

No I think it came from my PGP Signature in Bitcoin OTC http://bitcoin-otc.com/viewgpg.php?nick=sebicas
Could it be because I have a trade with Pirateat40 a few months I guess... http://bitcoin-otc.com/viewratingdetail.php?nick=sebicas&sign=ANY&type=RECV

Or did everybody on the Bitcoin OTC received the same email?
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September 24, 2012, 05:14:14 PM
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Theymos might get a paper to turn over all logs, even if he is in another country, they do help each other out. 5 million in loss is a great reason to do so.

I think we need to stop perpetuating the $5 million urban legend. Blockchain analysis in the 1DkyBEKt5S2GDtv7aQw6rQepAvnsRyHoYM thread points to it being a SilkRoad address, so it's doubtful pirate ever had that many funds under control. with 459 accounts (23 of which are probably sock puppets), that would be an average holding of $11,467. Yes some accounts have been stated to be higher than that, but I find it hard to believe that there would be as many people as gullible as a barnyard animal to get an actual balance that high (maybe a virtual balance, but not coins transferred).
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September 24, 2012, 05:25:37 PM
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Theymos might get a paper to turn over all logs, even if he is in another country, they do help each other out. 5 million in loss is a great reason to do so.

I think we need to stop perpetuating the $5 million urban legend. Blockchain analysis in the 1DkyBEKt5S2GDtv7aQw6rQepAvnsRyHoYM thread points to it being a SilkRoad address, so it's doubtful pirate ever had that many funds under control. with 459 accounts (23 of which are probably sock puppets), that would be an average holding of $11,467. Yes some accounts have been stated to be higher than that, but I find it hard to believe that there would be as many people as gullible as a barnyard animal to get an actual balance that high (maybe a virtual balance, but not coins transferred).

There was a guy here selling pirate debt last week which totally amounted to somewhere in the lower six figures (US).
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September 24, 2012, 05:29:14 PM
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To date, I haven't received one of these emails.

I wouldn't wonder if they visit you in person.
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September 24, 2012, 05:33:09 PM
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Theymos might get a paper to turn over all logs, even if he is in another country, they do help each other out. 5 million in loss is a great reason to do so.

I think we need to stop perpetuating the $5 million urban legend. Blockchain analysis in the 1DkyBEKt5S2GDtv7aQw6rQepAvnsRyHoYM thread points to it being a SilkRoad address, so it's doubtful pirate ever had that many funds under control. with 459 accounts (23 of which are probably sock puppets), that would be an average holding of $11,467. Yes some accounts have been stated to be higher than that, but I find it hard to believe that there would be as many people as gullible as a barnyard animal to get an actual balance that high (maybe a virtual balance, but not coins transferred).

There was a guy here selling pirate debt last week which totally amounted to somewhere in the lower six figures (US).

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I think we need to stop perpetuating the $5 million urban legend. Blockchain analysis in the 1DkyBEKt5S2GDtv7aQw6rQepAvnsRyHoYM thread points to it being a SilkRoad address, so it's doubtful pirate ever had that many funds under control. with 459 accounts (23 of which are probably sock puppets), that would be an average holding of $11,467. Yes some accounts have been stated to be higher than that, but I find it hard to believe that there would be as many people as gullible as a barnyard animal to get an actual balance that high (maybe a virtual balance, but not coins transferred).

I think it was already proven that he owes about $5.5-6.0 million (depending on BTC/USD exchange rate) but the amount he received from people is somewhere around $1-2 million. But that is a lot of money nevertheless.

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September 24, 2012, 05:34:45 PM
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The investigator will not pick up the phone anyone else have luck? Next the FTC will be after butterfly labs lol

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September 24, 2012, 05:45:15 PM
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The investigator will not pick up the phone anyone else have luck? Next the FTC will be after butterfly labs lol
Not much of an investigator if he will not even pick up the phone.

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September 24, 2012, 06:48:00 PM
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Theymos might get a paper to turn over all logs, even if he is in another country, they do help each other out. 5 million in loss is a great reason to do so.

I think we need to stop perpetuating the $5 million urban legend. Blockchain analysis in the 1DkyBEKt5S2GDtv7aQw6rQepAvnsRyHoYM thread points to it being a SilkRoad address, so it's doubtful pirate ever had that many funds under control. with 459 accounts (23 of which are probably sock puppets), that would be an average holding of $11,467. Yes some accounts have been stated to be higher than that, but I find it hard to believe that there would be as many people as gullible as a barnyard animal to get an actual balance that high (maybe a virtual balance, but not coins transferred).

There was a guy here selling pirate debt last week which totally amounted to somewhere in the lower six figures (US).
pirate "debt" is many many times more than what he got. It's a ponzi, that made 7% weekly debt with 0% real profit.
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September 24, 2012, 06:54:15 PM
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For those trying to reach the SEC, they have a porn addiction to attend to. Be patient.

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/federal-eye/2010/04/new_sec_porn_bust_details_rele_1.html
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September 24, 2012, 06:55:57 PM
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Oh, they've been reached quite all right https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=112438.0

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September 24, 2012, 07:20:45 PM
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I think it was already proven that he owes about $5.5-6.0 million (depending on BTC/USD exchange rate) but amount he received from people is somewhere around $1-2 million. But that is a lot of money nevertheless.

Actually, that sound believable since he did collect a lot of coins in the $2-$5/btc range. At the time it wasn't a lot of money.
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September 24, 2012, 08:18:59 PM
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The investigator will not pick up the phone anyone else have luck? Next the FTC will be after butterfly labs lol
Not much of an investigator if he will not even pick up the phone.

Maybe he's out knocking on doors?

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September 24, 2012, 08:27:53 PM
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The investigator will not pick up the phone anyone else have luck? Next the FTC will be after butterfly labs lol
Not much of an investigator if he will not even pick up the phone.
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September 24, 2012, 08:52:48 PM
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The investigator will not pick up the phone anyone else have luck? Next the FTC will be after butterfly labs lol
Not much of an investigator if he will not even pick up the phone.

Actually, he wouldn't be much of an investigator if he was constantly in the office.

All I can say is that this is Bitcoin. I don't believe it until I see six confirmations.
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September 24, 2012, 09:26:30 PM
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Wait, so Shavers was already convicted?

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September 24, 2012, 09:49:49 PM
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The SEC is investigating ZEEK rewards (see: http://www.sec.gov/divisions/enforce/claims/zekerewards.htm ) and because Zeek rewards has been discussed on this forum as a possible explanation for the exact date BTCST defaulted, the SEC could be investigating a possible association.
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