anubizz
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July 26, 2015, 10:32:04 PM |
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Hello, One card is still to have,
100 Eur preloaded, Anonym, Reloadable till 5000,00
I sell it for Eur 150,00
Best regards
Is 5000 the max at any given time or the absolute max for the life of the card? If you are selling these with a 50 EUR premium I'm sure you'll buy more to sell here. If these cards are readily available in Austria I wonder why no one else is selling them here since these are much better than the polish cards. Are these the only cards of this type available in Austria? Or there are others with higher limits? Every austrian person can only get three of these cards and you have to confirm your identety to the bank by applying and showing your ID at the bank branch or by legitimation by post. The person that applyed for the card is traceable, thats why they are not sold like the polish cards
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July 26, 2015, 10:47:12 PM |
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Hello, One card is still to have,
100 Eur preloaded, Anonym, Reloadable till 5000,00
I sell it for Eur 150,00
Best regards
Is 5000 the max at any given time or the absolute max for the life of the card? If you are selling these with a 50 EUR premium I'm sure you'll buy more to sell here. If these cards are readily available in Austria I wonder why no one else is selling them here since these are much better than the polish cards. Are these the only cards of this type available in Austria? Or there are others with higher limits? Every austrian person can only get three of these cards and you have to confirm your identety to the bank by applying and showing your ID at the bank branch or by legitimation by post. The person that applyed for the card is traceable, thats why they are not sold like the polish cards. Only 3 per person? Is that a limitation given by the central bank or they don't want to sell cards? Maybe this is not very easy in Austria, but what about paying a six-pack to a drunk bum and ask him to buy 3 cards with his id? Is this the only card of this type for sale in Austria?
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anubizz
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July 26, 2015, 11:07:08 PM Last edit: July 26, 2015, 11:19:51 PM by anubizz |
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the limitation is given by the main issuing bank. there has been a similar product to the PL cards (but with much higher limits) some time ago with legitimation only over a legit phone nr but the bank stoped selling them like this because of the massive ammount of fraud and money laundering. thats why...
the problem is that the person that applyed for the card is the "legal owner" and can close the card any time i think. but i am no lawyer, so i could also be wrong.
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anubizz
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July 26, 2015, 11:15:49 PM |
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there are more like these but all require and ID and are limited in ammount. the times something like the PL cards worked for austria are over .
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Mark0000 (OP)
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July 27, 2015, 03:43:21 AM |
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Hello, One card is still to have,
100 Eur preloaded, Anonym, Reloadable till 5000,00
I sell it for Eur 150,00
Best regards
Is 5000 the max at any given time or the absolute max for the life of the card? If you are selling these with a 50 EUR premium I'm sure you'll buy more to sell here. If these cards are readily available in Austria I wonder why no one else is selling them here since these are much better than the polish cards. Are these the only cards of this type available in Austria? Or there are others with higher limits? Every austrian person can only get three of these cards and you have to confirm your identety to the bank by applying and showing your ID at the bank branch or by legitimation by post. The person that applyed for the card is traceable, thats why they are not sold like the polish cards. Only 3 per person? Is that a limitation given by the central bank or they don't want to sell cards? Maybe this is not very easy in Austria, but what about paying a six-pack to a drunk bum and ask him to buy 3 cards with his id? Is this the only card of this type for sale in Austria? Yes only 3 per Person, and yes its the only one in austria But anyway, it still works eine and i think its Vetter than the polish cards, cuz of the higher limit.
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hgerson
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July 27, 2015, 04:19:32 PM |
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the problem is that the person that applyed for the card is the "legal owner" and can close the card any time i think. but i am no lawyer, so i could also be wrong.
And is that a real problem? What would the incentive be for the bum to cancel the card? He simply wouldn't care. OT: I saw your posts about unlocking polish cards. Is that solved?
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anubizz
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July 27, 2015, 05:58:36 PM |
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the "legal owner" will get all founds on the card! also if he is not the real owner. thats the problem... his name is connected to it so he will get all founds. no i could not solve it. very bad but thats life.
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July 27, 2015, 08:57:13 PM |
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... or by legitimation by post.
What is that? If it's still available I'd like to buy the card. Escrow is a must.
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hgerson
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July 28, 2015, 10:07:21 AM |
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I'm in contact with Mark0000 to buy the remaining card.
Escrow from SebastianJu.
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hgerson
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July 28, 2015, 01:33:57 PM |
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SCAMMER ALERT!!! He doesn't want escrow at all. Claims he made the other sale by e-mail and not to a member here. SebastianJu can confirm I made every reasonable attempt to make this deal in a safe way for both parts.
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Mark0000 (OP)
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July 28, 2015, 01:50:21 PM |
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And? Whats the Problem? I can sold to everybody i want!! I allways said i sell 2 cards and no more! And i sell to my conditions.
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July 28, 2015, 02:28:44 PM |
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Can I buy 1?
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To peel or not to peel.
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July 28, 2015, 04:59:54 PM |
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It seems the seller does not accept any escrow at all. Hgerson asked me to be the escrow and Mark0000 declined because he doesnt want to accept Bitcoins. So hgerson offered to deposit 2 Bitcoins in my escrow address. That would be 4 times the value of the card. He then offered that Mark0000 sends the card to hgerson and hgerson pays the card then with skrill. In the case hgerson would default then i would have 2 Bitcoins, which would be worth way enough for me to pay Mark0000 the skrill money he wanted.
It would have been fully save but Mark0000 declined.
Im not really sure what problem Mark has but i would say you guys should be cautious with his offer. There was simply NO reason to not accept that offer. There was no risk involved.
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anubizz
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July 28, 2015, 07:56:09 PM |
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Im not really sure what problem Mark has but i would say you guys should be cautious with his offer. There was simply NO reason to not accept that offer. There was no risk involved.
I think the problem is that this is no serious offer by Mark0000
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Mark0000 (OP)
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July 29, 2015, 05:12:28 AM |
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Yes, it is, i showed the card in my second post, i offered to send an ID, etc, i even offerd to meet me in Vienna.
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July 29, 2015, 12:05:21 PM |
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He wrote with me a bit and it might be that he came on here because he wanted to sell though had no contact with bitcoins before. So it might be that the idea of using an escrow is alien to him. So that he didnt want to involve another party.
So Mark... you can sell here without problems. This forum is less regulated than most. Mostly because of the liberal way bitcoin is. But you most probably can only sell with an escrow involved because the amount of scams happening on here are huge. Everyone knows that there are enough scammers scamming someone for less than $10.
So i think you would need to follow the rules of the buyers in the house you came in. They wont buy from you otherwise most probably.
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July 29, 2015, 04:11:27 PM |
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Hmm..maybe i should really read up on this subject, thx
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July 29, 2015, 08:39:16 PM |
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Hmm..maybe i should really read up on this subject, thx
Sure should mate Escrow is safer than selling on eBay
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July 30, 2015, 02:05:57 AM |
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yes mark.... you might need to do some research..
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August 01, 2015, 04:23:18 AM |
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Be careful. SCAM! Letter arrived with just a bunch of plain paper inside. 250EUR wasted!! SENDER is: Tom Bombadil Ltd ( http://lotr.wikia.com/wiki/Tom_Bombadil) If someone want proofs I can send P.M photos etc..
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