Sweminer777
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September 01, 2015, 10:33:06 AM |
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jesus aproved this.
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pehchan
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September 01, 2015, 10:42:59 AM |
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In my childhood, I don't even know what is religion & what I am belongs to. I had every religion friends with me. Some are my best friends. Education explained me the region thing. In my childhood whenever there some bomb blasts or some bad thing happens, then my guardians used to say some bad people doing this. I still don't want to categorize my friends in religion thing, But politics plays vital role to categorize them. We can't blame religion for some lame people. The only people do bad to humans or anything, is who don't believe in god or human being.
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MakingMoneyHoney
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September 01, 2015, 12:45:14 PM |
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jesus aproved this. Since when? Thou shalt not murder was a commandment. Loving our neighbors as ourselves came right out of Jesus's mouth. Don't confuse sinning Christians with what Jesus wanted.
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Spendulus
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September 01, 2015, 01:42:27 PM |
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In my childhood, I don't even know what is religion & what I am belongs to. I had every religion friends with me. Some are my best friends. Education explained me the region thing. In my childhood whenever there some bomb blasts or some bad thing happens, then my guardians used to say some bad people doing this. I still don't want to categorize my friends in religion thing, But politics plays vital role to categorize them. We can't blame religion for some lame people. The only people do bad to humans or anything, is who don't believe in god or human being.
That's actually quite interesting.
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September 01, 2015, 02:32:26 PM |
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We have barely gotten to the point where we can clearly talk about the 3 scientific laws that prove that God exists. Questions about Satan will need to be answered from personal belief. Satan is the fallen angel who plays the largest part in corrupting the perfect earth, the perfect people. "Fallen" means that he has turned himself to be against God. While "angel" may mean space alien, it means a whole lot more than we think about when we say "space alien." Satan is not myth, although proving that he exists might be more difficult even than proving God exists. Satan is the proof God doesn't exist. The "fallen angel" almost took down the "almighty" if weren't for God's army of angels. How pathetic can this be?! So the "almighty", isn't "almighty" at all and needs an army to protect his ass. God also can't foresee, so isn't omniscient, because he keeps regretting something and didn't saw Satan's rebellion coming.
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September 01, 2015, 03:15:30 PM |
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Is belief in Satan polytheism? He is a super natural being and seems to be about as strong as any God. How is it monotheism if one believes in a sort of evil God? Just wondering, I dunno
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September 01, 2015, 04:42:37 PM |
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jesus aproved this.
The Catholic conquest of the new world exterminated around 400 million natives, and forcibly converted the remainder of the population to Christianity. Many of the genocide perpetrators of that time are being revered as "Saints" now. But Islam is no different. Islamists have conducted similar genocidal campaigns in Arabia, Afghanistan, India, Indonesia.etc. And imagine what would have happened if they had discovered the Americas instead of the Catholics.
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MakingMoneyHoney
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September 01, 2015, 04:59:18 PM |
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We have barely gotten to the point where we can clearly talk about the 3 scientific laws that prove that God exists. Questions about Satan will need to be answered from personal belief. Satan is the fallen angel who plays the largest part in corrupting the perfect earth, the perfect people. "Fallen" means that he has turned himself to be against God. While "angel" may mean space alien, it means a whole lot more than we think about when we say "space alien." Satan is not myth, although proving that he exists might be more difficult even than proving God exists. Satan is the proof God doesn't exist. The "fallen angel" almost took down the "almighty" if weren't for God's army of angels. How pathetic can this be?! So the "almighty", isn't "almighty" at all and needs an army to protect his ass. God also can't foresee, so isn't omniscient, because he keeps regretting something and didn't saw Satan's rebellion coming. God knew it all was coming. My thoughts on this are, He wanted everyone to have free will (as it's a gift). If you asked anyone to take away their will completely, I think they'd say they wouldn't give away their free will for anything. But He knew that giving free will would result in some angels falling and sin in mankind. But He had a plan with Jesus. The fallen angel didn't almost take down anything. In the book of Job it's quite clear satan has to ask for permission to do things. Is belief in Satan polytheism? He is a super natural being and seems to be about as strong as any God. How is it monotheism if one believes in a sort of evil God? Just wondering, I dunno Satan isn't a god, even though he would very much like to be worshiped as one. He still answers to God, and will die one day.
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September 01, 2015, 05:39:42 PM |
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jesus aproved this.
The Catholic conquest of the new world exterminated around 400 million natives, and forcibly converted the remainder of the population to Christianity. Many of the genocide perpetrators of that time are being revered as "Saints" now. ... None of my Indian friends would agree with your views on this subject. Personally, I have difficulty considering Pizzaro as on a "Catholic Conquest." Cortez, perhaps in part.
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BCEmporium
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September 01, 2015, 06:42:30 PM |
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So? At the end, what wrong did Satan? Riot against the "Eternal Dictator" you call God? "He knew"?! If "he knew" would prevent it before. And where does free will and foreknowledge fit within Noah story? In movies God would be Senator Palpatine and Satan Luke Skywalker.
We would need a Satan's Bible to know where he stands.
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MakingMoneyHoney
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September 01, 2015, 07:02:19 PM |
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So? At the end, what wrong did Satan? Riot against the "Eternal Dictator" you call God? "He knew"?! If "he knew" would prevent it before. And where does free will and foreknowledge fit within Noah story? In movies God would be Senator Palpatine and Satan Luke Skywalker.
We would need a Satan's Bible to know where he stands.
He rebelled against God, and sinned. He also got humans to sin, and continued to try to get humans to sin more and more. He was prideful, and wanted to be like God. To have peace, and never have sadness again, we need to get rid of sin, and Satan wanted everyone to sin. Satan got other angels to fall like him, and the angels had children with human women, and taught humans things that led to sin. The angels (called Watchers in the book of Enoch), taught humans how to make better swords, and mirrors and makeup (which can lead to pride or shame, more sin), etc. There's already a Satanists bible, but Satan is the father of lies, so it's going to be nothing more than trying to make himself look good. 2 Corinthians 11:14 And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light.1 Peter 5:8 Be of sober spirit, be on the alert. Your adversary, the devil, prowls around like a roaring lion, seeking someone to devour. 9 But resist him, firm in your faith, knowing that the same experiences of suffering are being accomplished by your brethren who are in the world.
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September 01, 2015, 07:15:07 PM |
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It's interesting to see that even in a time when mythology is understood for what it is, there are still people who believe in myth. I have traveled a lot and met with people all over the world. Everywhere I have been people laugh at the mythology of other people but are completely oblivious to the same absurdities in their own religion. For example, I met a Lacandon Mayan man in the jungles of Mexico/Guatemala who thought it foolish to believe that a God lived in the clouds. He knew that clouds could not hold up any weight and so it did not make sense. However, he also knew that the world rested on the back of a turtle floating in a giant ocean. Duh, that's obvious. lol.
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September 01, 2015, 08:22:49 PM |
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He rebelled against God, and sinned. He also got humans to sin, and continued to try to get humans to sin more and more. He was prideful, and wanted to be like God. To have peace, and never have sadness again, we need to get rid of sin...
It's really working out, isn't it? And what would be "eternal peace and no sadness"? Wars are made by man, doesn't occur because God or Satan made it, and some events makes some sad and others happy at the very same time. So that world without sadness would be what? A place where all games will end up in a draw? Think of the paradoxes that makes yours and everybody's religions pure non-sense. Add to this: "what is a sin"? How many wars did occur because some masturbates? Yet accordingly to your "unaware of what legitimacy means" religion, it's "a sin"
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MakingMoneyHoney
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September 01, 2015, 08:40:35 PM |
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He rebelled against God, and sinned. He also got humans to sin, and continued to try to get humans to sin more and more. He was prideful, and wanted to be like God. To have peace, and never have sadness again, we need to get rid of sin...
It's really working out, isn't it? When you die from this life, it's afterwards. And what would be "eternal peace and no sadness"? Wars are made by man, doesn't occur because God or Satan made it, and some events makes some sad and others happy at the very same time. So that world without sadness would be what? A place where all games will end up in a draw?
Think of the paradoxes that makes yours and everybody's religions pure non-sense.
Add to this: "what is a sin"? How many wars did occur because some masturbates? Yet accordingly to your "unaware of what legitimacy means" religion, it's "a sin"
All sin will be gone. So there will be no more wars, and no more hate, and no more violence, no more lust, etc. Someone losing a game should not result in sadness. There wouldn't be a feeling of needing to "beat" someone (like being happy at the other person losing), versus just winning or losing and having fun playing. It's hard to believe people have such a hard time imagining people being happy forever.
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September 01, 2015, 08:46:13 PM |
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The is no life afterwards. That falls to the afterlife's paradox! If such thing would exist you would go to an extremely crowded place; the sum of all people that already existed, and sharing your space with ancient people that would make you miss your worse neighbor.
Wars and competition happens because some people wants the same thing at the same time, this will unavoidably make the winning part happy and the loosing part sad. They're mutually exclusive (or a paradox), and there's no way to turn this around, not even with your Prozac's paradise.
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September 01, 2015, 08:56:43 PM |
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jesus aproved this. Since when? Thou shalt not murder was a commandment. Loving our neighbors as ourselves came right out of Jesus's mouth. Don't confuse sinning Christians with what Jesus wanted. And don't confuse sinning Muslims with what Islam teaches
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MakingMoneyHoney
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September 01, 2015, 09:02:32 PM |
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[img]http://streetevangelization.com/practical-evangelization/wp-content/blogs.dir/165/files/2014/02 jesus aproved this.
Since when? Thou shalt not murder was a commandment. Loving our neighbors as ourselves came right out of Jesus's mouth. Don't confuse sinning Christians with what Jesus wanted. And don't confuse sinning Muslims with what Islam teaches I certainly don't.
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September 01, 2015, 09:04:19 PM |
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And don't confuse sinning Muslims with what Islam teaches
What does Islam teaches? Killing people? Harass women? Harass "non-believers"? The problem is that is actually wrote in the Islamic doctrine. Isn't the "sinner Muslims", it's the doctrine. Add to the problem, the major one, both Christians and Muslims likes to teach, despite they are but utterly ignorants! Most of those Indians were killed in "Christian Reeducation Centers", ruled by Methodists and that existed up to early 80's of the XX Century. Communists and Religious folks sense of happiness: either you're "happy" or you're dead.
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Sweminer777
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September 01, 2015, 10:16:14 PM |
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And don't confuse sinning Muslims with what Islam teaches
What does Islam teaches? Killing people? Harass women? Harass "non-believers"? The problem is that is actually wrote in the Islamic doctrine. Isn't the "sinner Muslims", it's the doctrine. Add to the problem, the major one, both Christians and Muslims likes to teach, despite they are but utterly ignorants! Most of those Indians were killed in "Christian Reeducation Centers", ruled by Methodists and that existed up to early 80's of the XX Century. Communists and Religious folks sense of happiness: either you're "happy" or you're dead. No islam do not teach that, those who teach that are sick people who do not understand the word and take advantages on their behalf, beucase they are angry whit the sociaty. Indians were not only killed, but people of the entire continet even down to chile and argentina there were genocide. Besides most angels talked in the bible are referals to aliens who came to earth, manipulated a species to give them a jump start. We are hybrids, half terrestrians half aliens, and our gods are aliens. There is one supreme creator, and that is the energy that is all around us, we will never see him but we can feel this energy .
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September 01, 2015, 11:33:10 PM |
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Quran (2:191-193) - "And kill them wherever you find them, and turn them out from where they have turned you out. And Al-Fitnah [disbelief or unrest] is worse than killing...
but if they desist, then lo! Allah is forgiving and merciful. And fight them until there is no more Fitnah [disbelief and worshipping of others along with Allah] and worship is for Allah alone. But if they cease, let there be no transgression except against Az-Zalimun (the polytheists, and wrong-doers, etc.)" Quran (2:244) - "Then fight in the cause of Allah, and know that Allah Heareth and knoweth all things." Quran (2:216) - "Fighting is prescribed for you, and ye dislike it. But it is possible that ye dislike a thing which is good for you, and that ye love a thing which is bad for you. But Allah knoweth, and ye know not." Quran (3:56) - "As to those who reject faith, I will punish them with terrible agony in this world and in the Hereafter, nor will they have anyone to help." Quran (3:151) - "Soon shall We cast terror into the hearts of the Unbelievers, for that they joined companions with Allah, for which He had sent no authority" and so on, and so on... can you please cut the Taqqyia? Muhammad himself would resemble more of an ISIS leader than anything else. Besides, the people from Central and South Americas, except for Brazil and Argentina are mostly descendants of natives. We're no aliens, we are exactly like the rest of the primates, except that we seam to have some sort of intelligence that sometimes made us stupid.
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