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July 16, 2015, 02:09:22 AM
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I've been on this forum for a while, and Quickseller is a frequently recurring name. Although I don't know him personally, his contributions to the forums that I have witnessed are proof enough of his beneficiary nature. Quickseller, in my opinion, would make a great mod.
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July 16, 2015, 05:03:45 AM
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Ha thanks for the vouches.

However if my two stints on default trust is an indication of anything then me beefing promoted to staff would have all the scammers and their alts complaining about me because they will have a more difficult time pulling off their scams. I wouldn't be surprised if the spammers start complaining as well. Plus it would probably also bring out the conspiracy theorists.

While I would be honored for the position, I do think it would be very controversial. I do have over 1.6k reports with a 95% accuracy rate.

My accuracy rate on my sent trust is even better then the above and I was able to spot a number of scams that others would not be able to spot for a long time. However I was still removed from BadBear's list.

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July 16, 2015, 05:09:21 AM
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Infinite vouches for quickseller.
He is probably THE detective on here and is very trustworthy. I talk to him on skype alot and I would trust him with ANY amount of btc. He always comes up with crazy accusations that are almost always true (and his 95% rate proves this)

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July 16, 2015, 06:10:40 AM
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Quickseller is only an alt. His main account is already a moderator.  Wink
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July 16, 2015, 06:16:04 AM
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Well I can nominate QS I guess. I mean he's all over the forums and warns people about scammers and their futile scams but I don't think they'll need another moderator here? Either way, you get my vote.

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July 16, 2015, 06:32:28 AM
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If he was at least on default trust that would be enough, i find it quite weird that no one on the default trust has him on their list, i mean there are plenty of default trust people that have like 10 sent feedbacks and thats about it, arent they wasting their power?
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July 16, 2015, 07:11:47 AM
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That's not how this works.
That's not how any of this works.

I admit, Quickseller is pretty active, and does quite a bit of scambusting (I remember when he used to just be an account seller Tongue)
But I don't think the forums will take into account our opinions when deciding new moderators.
And I'm not sure about the extent to which scam busting and moderating are similar. Moderators don't delete scammers threads, ban scammers or anything of the sort. His reports sound quite impressive, but that's for admins to consider, not us.

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July 16, 2015, 08:31:04 AM
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That's not how this works.
That's not how any of this works.

I admit, Quickseller is pretty active, and does quite a bit of scambusting (I remember when he used to just be an account seller Tongue)
But I don't think the forums will take into account our opinions when deciding new moderators.
And I'm not sure about the extent to which scam busting and moderating are similar. Moderators don't delete scammers threads, ban scammers or anything of the sort. His reports sound quite impressive, but that's for admins to consider, not us.
Exactly. This is not how the system works and it would be prone to abuse. A problem would occur, because if you factor in all the drama that happened with people complaining about Quickseller, this would make that escalate even more (unless you like long threads with drama).
Interestingly enough he has not been offered a position even after such a high amount of good reports. On the other hand, I doubt that there is someone more deserving right now than him.

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July 16, 2015, 08:33:12 AM
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That's not how this works.
That's not how any of this works.

I admit, Quickseller is pretty active, and does quite a bit of scambusting (I remember when he used to just be an account seller Tongue)
But I don't think the forums will take into account our opinions when deciding new moderators.
And I'm not sure about the extent to which scam busting and moderating are similar. Moderators don't delete scammers threads, ban scammers or anything of the sort. His reports sound quite impressive, but that's for admins to consider, not us.
Exactly. This is not how the system works and it would be prone to abuse. A problem would occur, because if you factor in all the drama that happened with people complaining about Quickseller, this would make that escalate even more (unless you like long threads with drama).
Interestingly enough he has not been offered a position even after such a high amount of good reports. On the other hand, I doubt that there is someone more deserving right now than him.

Who cares about drama, ban or delete any nonsense posts like those ones, lets be honest 99% of people that used to complain about qs ratings were confirmed scammers, yeah he might have made some mistakes but the majority of the time he didnt.
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July 16, 2015, 08:38:06 AM
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Who cares about drama, ban or delete any nonsense posts like those ones, lets be honest 99% of people that used to complain about qs ratings were confirmed scammers, yeah he might have made some mistakes but the majority of the time he didnt.
You can't delete posts that aren't against the rules as far as I know. The staff has decided to allow useless drama in the past, what makes you think that it would change now?

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July 16, 2015, 09:57:18 AM
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That's not how this works.
That's not how any of this works.

I admit, Quickseller is pretty active, and does quite a bit of scambusting (I remember when he used to just be an account seller Tongue)
But I don't think the forums will take into account our opinions when deciding new moderators.
And I'm not sure about the extent to which scam busting and moderating are similar. Moderators don't delete scammers threads, ban scammers or anything of the sort. His reports sound quite impressive, but that's for admins to consider, not us.

I'm sure they'd take it into consideration but obviously we don't have a democratic system here for choosing new mods. However, if the majority of people think he's doing a good job and would welcome him as a mod then I think that has to count for something, though it obviously isn't the deciding factor.

Exactly. This is not how the system works and it would be prone to abuse. A problem would occur, because if you factor in all the drama that happened with people complaining about Quickseller, this would make that escalate even more (unless you like long threads with drama).
Interestingly enough he has not been offered a position even after such a high amount of good reports. On the other hand, I doubt that there is someone more deserving right now than him.

There are likely a couple of people with many more reports than him, but I don't think just having the highest or very high amount of reports will guarantee you anything either. That could just as easily be abused. A scammer could spend a significant amount of time reporting posts in an attempt to join Staff. I also think QS would make a good mod and don't think it would be that controversial but there's never a day without drama here and whingers will always whinge. The only drama that has really occurred because of him is due to him outing scammers anyway. He screwed up once or twice on feedback and that was unfortunate but I'm sure he's learned from his mistakes and don't think that should count against him potentially being a mod especially with all the other good he does. I think potential mods should be trustworthy, be very, very active and know the rules with also a high report accuracy. He has all these things but I have no idea whether he would ever be made a mod or not and that's not up to me to decide. If I was going to nominate the next mod though I think it should be Shorena for also all of the above reasons.

Who cares about drama, ban or delete any nonsense posts like those ones, lets be honest 99% of people that used to complain about qs ratings were confirmed scammers, yeah he might have made some mistakes but the majority of the time he didnt.
You can't delete posts that aren't against the rules as far as I know.

Well we can #WorstSituation #AbuseOfPower haha, but if he or any other mod just deleted posts like that they likely wouldn't be a mod for very long and that certainly would be a good way to cause drama. People complain in Meta when they've had their thread moved to the correct section so if someone deletes a post that they shouldn't there'll be trouble  Cheesy.

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July 16, 2015, 10:19:53 AM
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There are likely a couple of people with many more reports than him, but I don't think just having the highest or very high amount of reports will guarantee you anything either. That could just as easily be abused. A scammer could spend a significant amount of time reporting posts in an attempt to join Staff. I also think QS would make a good mod and don't think it would be that controversial but there's never a day without drama here and whingers will always whinge. The only drama that has really occurred because of him is due to him outing scammers anyway. He screwed up once or twice on feedback and that was unfortunate but I'm sure he's learned from his mistakes and don't think that should count against him potentially being a mod especially with all the other good he does. I think potential mods should be trustworthy, be very, very active and know the rules with also a high report accuracy. He has all these things but I have no idea whether he would ever be made a mod or not and that's not up to me to decide. If I was going to nominate the next mod though I think it should be Shorena for also all of the above reasons.


Well we can #WorstSituation #AbuseOfPower haha, but if he or any other mod just deleted posts like that they likely wouldn't be a mod for very long and that certainly would be a good way to cause drama. People complain in Meta when they've had their thread moved to the correct section so if someone deletes a post that they shouldn't there'll be trouble  Cheesy.
Yeah, I know that it won't. I never said that it guarantees anything. There are several people that are fit for this position, and you're right it would be easy to abuse if the sole factor was a high number of reports.
What would prevent someone to make accounts and spam from them, while reporting each post from his main one? Nothing. I also agree with your suggestion regarding Shorena. Well I as far as I know, moderators are allowed to interpret rules in their own way (to a certain level of course). However, we don't need more people whining and complaining.

I'm pretty sure that most of us are growing tired of: #TrustIsFlawed, #DeletedMypost, #LeftnegativeTrust, #RemoveVod, etc.

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July 16, 2015, 10:40:58 AM
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If he was at least on default trust that would be enough, i find it quite weird that no one on the default trust has him on their list, i mean there are plenty of default trust people that have like 10 sent feedbacks and thats about it, arent they wasting their power?

He previously was, but it only takes one dedicated scammer to spam anyone with him in their trust list to have him removed. Because it works.

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July 16, 2015, 10:47:51 AM
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Well for me a Moderator is a user who is unbiased and sees both side of a coin. Currently, Quickseller doesn't exhibit the same IMHO. May be later there will come a time when Theymos/Badbear thinks he is fit enough and consider him worthy but I don't think currently he could be a responsible moderator else even Vod and Tomatocage could be appointed as moderators. It's only a constructive criticism and not to take anything personally  Smiley


Was Tomatocage a moderator anytime?

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July 16, 2015, 11:23:51 AM
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Well for me a Moderator is a user who is unbiased and sees both side of a coin. Currently, Quickseller doesn't exhibit the same IMHO. May be later there will come a time when Theymos/Badbear thinks he is fit enough and consider him worthy but I don't think currently he could be a responsible moderator else even Vod and Tomatocage could be appointed as moderators. It's only a constructive criticism and not to take anything personally  Smiley


Was Tomatocage a moderator anytime?

As people have already commented on him being active in busting scams isn't the main criteria. Vod and tomato don't report many posts at all whereas QS does.

And no, tomato wasn't. His account is just an alt account of someone to bust scammers on as far as I'm aware.

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July 16, 2015, 11:36:02 AM
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If he was at least on default trust that would be enough, i find it quite weird that no one on the default trust has him on their list, i mean there are plenty of default trust people that have like 10 sent feedbacks and thats about it, arent they wasting their power?

He previously was, but it only takes one dedicated scammer to spam anyone with him in their trust list to have him removed. Because it works.

Yes unfortunately it seems easy like that to take someone down from default trust. Most of the spammers and complainers about qs were wrong and yet he still got kicked and other default trust members, as i said, have almost no sent feedback wasting their position, obviously if you dont mark scammers as scammers you will have way less trouble than if you do. It was kind of stupid to remove qs, anyone who marks scammers are going to have enemies, it happened with vod as well, even with hilarious recently.
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I have seen numerous times that he has helped newbies and accurately answered hundreds of questions.
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He/She/It apparently has plenty of time to dedicate.
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Therefore I nominate Quickseller for consideration of Moderator or Staff.
He certainly qualifies from my point of view, the main reasons quoted above.
His polarizing personality should not be an issue, there's other staff with that "feature".
On the other hand, is there even need for general staff right now?
I see a lack of moderation in certain "language" subforums but I don't see it in general.

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On the other hand, is there even need for general staff right now?
I see a lack of moderation in certain "language" subforums but I don't see it in general.

We could probably do with one or two in my opinion. The subs that don't have any moderators could do with some as only Globals can pick up those reports, but that could also be remedied by promoting more current Staff to Globals.

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July 16, 2015, 12:00:37 PM
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I wouldn't object to Quickseller being staff, he has exposed many scammers and I think has the communities best interest at heart.

There was an issue with him being removed from badbears trust list but I believe he has learnt a good lesson from that.
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