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[EFS]

Most of my reports are currently handled quickly by EAL AFAIK (hard to tell sometimes), which suggests that there is no need for another mod in my timezone.

I guess we have too many Patrollers and not enough dedicated board moderators. We discussed this a while ago, sometimes I don't have any reports to handle but Cyrus had 100+ reports. I proposed to reduce workload multiple times but got no answer. Well, Admins know better.

[Lauda]

I guess we have too many Patrollers and not enough dedicated board moderators. We discussed this a while ago, sometimes I don't have any reports to handle but Cyrus had 100+ reports. I proposed to reduce workload multiple times but got no answer. Well, Admins know better.

This. Anyone who says that we have enough moderators is wrong. It's possible that there are too many people patrolling newbies at the moment, while boards such as local ones do not have enough moderation.
Let me just show you a picture that I just took:

I've scaled it down so that it can fit. There were a few more in other sections in the Chinese board. It took a while to report all of them.

[jambola2]

I guess we have too many Patrollers and not enough dedicated board moderators. We discussed this a while ago, sometimes I don't have any reports to handle but Cyrus had 100+ reports. I proposed to reduce workload multiple times but got no answer. Well, Admins know better.

This. Anyone who says that we have enough moderators is wrong. It's possible that there are too many people patrolling newbies at the moment, while boards such as local ones do not have enough moderation.
Let me just show you a picture that I just took:
*snip*
I've scaled it down so that it can fit. There were a few more in other sections in the Chinese board. It took a while to report all of them.

I was just reporting them too.
Does multiple people reporting the same thread make any difference, maybe make it a higher priority in the queue?
I assume the mods will anyways delete all upon seeing that all are similar.

[ndnh]

I would say no.

I had typed in everything here, but when I posted it, it kept loading for some 2 minutes. I clicked Back, and wow, everything was empty.
Checked drafts too. Gone, lol. [Bits and parts that I could remember:]

Quickseller is extremely knowledgable, knows everything around here, and he has the skills to be a mod.

But, his methods are too objective, and he attacks everything that he "thinks" has the "possibility" of being a scam or scammer.
The only reason I don't have this "Trade with extreme caution" tag just because the person who tried to frame me or QS posted in the giveaway thread one day late (probably couldn't find any other thread). he clarified that it is the only reason that is valid (he ignored all other, even the amount involved, I was inactive, and every other valid defense. It makes sense for QS that I leave the campaign for a few days without any prior notice, delaying the avatar campaign (and due payments), and patrol the forum in a newbie account blackmailing people, and posting year old addresses in the forum? But thank God the other one made sense to him.)
And some default trusted doesn't even bother to verify anything properly, before making their own contribution. And the forum suddenly turns supportive (sarcasm).
What I am saying is, the possibility of "false positive" is usually high enough to be not ruled out like that.

From someone who survived two scam accusations ( ) and negative feedbacks from TC, Quickseller, redsn0w, ... and even Vod (for a funny loan issue)). The sad thing is, sometimes, even if you know you did nothing, you won't be able to provide any proof. And esp. relatively new members won't have anyone supporting them.


Edit: tl;dr, cause his good, method needs upgrading

[XinXan]

Stupidest idea I've ever heard.

You want to make a dirty account seller (the lowest of the low) a MODERATOR??

Quickseller enables at least 50% of all scams that take place on this forum, and you want to make him a moderator. Real genius move.

I move to ban Quickseller instead, and bring back some much-needed credibility to this forum.

Now watch, this message will be removed by a mod within 30 minutes. Because QS is very likely a mod or else conspiring with one to rip off forum users. What a sad existence to lead. Don't you understand how magical and interesting life is?

And you want to use your precious time on this planet to rip off others for a living? For shame.

You are just another hater that always blames quickseller every time you can, dont you have anything else to do? You are so focused on this when there are way bigger problems out there, why dont you use your time doing something productive instead?

Its funny that everyone who is attacking qs has been in conflict with him. Selling accounts is not against the rules anyways so what is your point?

[EFS]

Let me just show you a picture that I just took:
https://i.imgur.com/f1qeJQI.png
I've scaled it down so that it can fit. There were a few more in other sections in the Chinese board. It took a while to report all of them.

Just woke up and nuked them all. Not a big deal, when you report they are handled pretty fast.

[Quickseller]

I would say no.

I had typed in everything here, but when I posted it, it kept loading for some 2 minutes. I clicked Back, and wow, everything was empty.
Checked drafts too. Gone, lol. [Bits and parts that I could remember:]

Quickseller is extremely knowledgable, knows everything around here, and he has the skills to be a mod.

But, his methods are too objective, and he attacks everything that he "thinks" has the "possibility" of being a scam or scammer.
The only reason I don't have this "Trade with extreme caution" tag just because the person who tried to frame me or QS posted in the giveaway thread one day late (probably couldn't find any other thread). he clarified that it is the only reason that is valid (he ignored all other, even the amount involved, I was inactive, and every other valid defense. It makes sense for QS that I leave the campaign for a few days without any prior notice, delaying the avatar campaign (and due payments), and patrol the forum in a newbie account blackmailing people, and posting year old addresses in the forum? But thank God the other one made sense to him.)
And some default trusted doesn't even bother to verify anything properly, before making their own contribution. And the forum suddenly turns supportive (sarcasm).
What I am saying is, the possibility of "false positive" is usually high enough to be not ruled out like that.

From someone who survived two scam accusations ( ) and negative feedbacks from TC, Quickseller, redsn0w, ... and even Vod (for a funny loan issue)). The sad thing is, sometimes, even if you know you did nothing, you won't be able to provide any proof. And esp. relatively new members won't have anyone supporting them.


Edit: tl;dr, cause his good, method needs upgrading

If I were you, I would be more concerned about the people who saw the evidence that supported your innocence yet said nothing. The facts were evaluated by a number of people and the consensus was that the facts pointed to your guilt. There was however a small number of people (maybe one or two) who displayed they had information that supported your innocence, yet they only made very vague statements regarding the situation.

Furthermore, you are the one to blame for you making arguments as to why you were innocent only in private, and for withholding such arguments from the people who had concluded you were guilty. To say that you were a victim of being wrongly accused when you intentionally withhold evidence showing your innocence is ridiculous.

Additionally, for the record, you continued to promote an obvious scam for several months, and facilitated the promotion of such scam for several months in exchange for payment to yourself. There is no denying that you continued to promote such scam and there is no denying that you had the ability to shut down such advertisements for the scam site.

[Lauda]

Just woke up and nuked them all. Not a big deal, when you report they are handled pretty fast.

Good job. I didn't say that it was a big deal. I was trying to point out that time zones should be taken into consideration as well when looking for the next moderator. Some sections also need new moderators (section specific), or the previous ones need to be a little more active/engaged.
Unfortunately this thread is causing drama again and the people who used to complain about QS are joining in again. I knew that there could be no good from a thread such as this one. This is why theymos chooses the moderators without consulting the community.

[Quickseller]

Ha thanks for the vouches.

However if my two stints on default trust is an indication of anything then me beefing promoted to staff would have all the scammers and their alts complaining about me because they will have a more difficult time pulling off their scams. I wouldn't be surprised if the spammers start complaining as well. Plus it would probably also bring out the conspiracy theorists.

While I would be honored for the position, I do think it would be very controversial. I do have over 1.6k reports with a 95% accuracy rate.

My accuracy rate on my sent trust is even better then the above and I was able to spot a number of scams that others would not be able to spot for a long time. However I was still removed from BadBear's list.

....

Sweet, it's the quickseller masterbation post of the day.  It's a fun game you guys, look through the 1000s of posts that quickseller produces every week and nearly everyday you can find one where he "toots his own horn" so to speak.  This one is a little more subtle, because he's responding to someone else wanking him, but who knows, with his anonymity, they may actually be the same person.

This is one of many examples of you trolling. I find it outrageous that this has been allowed to continue for as long as it has. Granted the threshold for trolling is very high, however I believe this threshold has been breached multiple times. Although I do not think this is necessary, I would be able to provide multiple examples of similar trolling posts by tspacepilot.

 In a recent high-profile event, he went on for a week about how respected member ndnhc was scamming (for some tiny amount, the story didn't add up) using some faked proof.    When people confronted him about the fact that the motive wasn't there, he would shut them down saying I have evidence and that scammers don't need a motivation to scam.

No. You are lying and misrepresentation the situation. No credible information was presented to show ndnhc's innocence, the people who claimed he was innocent either were blindly following him or saw evidence that he was not guilty but refused to present it publicly (or privately AFAIK).

After he was shown wrong he didn't apologize or say that he'd be more careful in the future, he just moved on and continues to toot his own horn about how he found this "evidence".  There was even a good deal of speculation about whethere he might have been the one who planted the evidence himself, although this was never proven.

You do not know what happened via PM. Regarding the "speculation" that I planted the evidence myself, that is worthless, much like you.

In a saga that spans nearly 4 months now, he went after me starting this March/April for literally no known reason.  In case you didn't hear this one, it's quite nuts:

I have told you multiple times why I looked into your scammy history. It was because you started trolling me for no apparent reason. To say that yo do not know why I looked into your history is a serious misrepresentation of the facts.

Then he got put on tomatocage's list.  He wanted power so badly that when I asked tomotocage to intervene about my negative trust from quickseller, qs relented in order to stay on tc's list.  Tomatocage saw that QS's feedback on me is nothing but vindictive bile with no basis in fact, and he asked quickseller to at least change it to a neutral.  Quickseller did this.

I changed my negative rating to a neutral against you because I would rather let one scammer roam free then give up the previous extensive amounts of work that I have put into putting scammers. This is not something I will do again.

In case you think he's learned from this and moved on, note this.  Just recently I saw that he's changed his rating on me back to negative.  He hasn't let go of the nonsense yet.  God knows why this guy hates me so much

You are a professional troll and a scammer. The reason other do not call you out as a scammer is because they do not want to deal with the drama that you cause when people disagree with you. When people call you out in your own threads, you lock them in order to prevent further criticism of yourself.    

Only one month ago he seems to have registered a newbie account, FunFunnyFan https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=519804 who was trying to sell a default trust account.  He spent one weekend trolling me with this account.  The writing style was the same as quickseller's and I have no doubt it was him trying to openly troll me without getting his main account involved again.  I thought it was very interesting that that account was trying to sell a default trust account and that the moment I said "hey you must be quickseller, no one else has any problem with me" the account disappeared and stopped trolling me.

You assume it is me because someone does not agree with you. This fits your MO very closely. Have you ever stopped to consider that you are simply not a likable person?

Indeed, once I had been the victim of a quickseller smear attack I started reading those meta threads saying quickseller was falsely accusing them with a new view.

You are lying again. You were falsely accused of nothing. You are a scammer and a troll. As I said in the beginning of this post, it is offensive that you have been allowed to troll for as long as you have. If results are not seen immediately, then further action will be taken to ensue that you are prevented from further trolling and from further spamming.

Your slander is worthless  

[LFC_Bitcoin]

I think Quickseller is a very big positive for the forum. He has the right intentions & has obviously caught a lot of scumbags & stopped them scamming good honest people.

I'm unsure if he should be a moderator though, he does 9/10 things brilliantly but I have noticed him being a bit argumentative & sometimes too involved, too obsessed with scam busting that he annoys people & gives some negative trust too easily. He was very, very involved with slating Da Dice & I didn't really agree with it.
Once he bites into something he doesn't seem to be able to let go & he doesn't listen to the other side of an issue, it's his way or the highway.

He was terrible to ndnhc who is about as trustworthy as it gets, a really great guy who has never done anything remotely suspicious on here.

He had a run in with tspacepilot too which I believe wasn't proven to be a legit problem with tspacepilot.
In conclusion I don't think Quickseller should be a mod but he should carry on with the actual good work that he has shown he is capable of most of the time.

[Blazr]

I don't know if I like moderators being nominated like that. A moderator isn't a tough job. Moderators are supposed to be impartial - they not supposed to get involved in scams in anyway so scam busting experience is not really relevant. All actions that a (non-global) moderator does are reversible by a global mod, so even having an untrustworthy person as a mod isn't so bad as any damage they do can be undone in a few minutes and non-global mods don't have access to any secret info like IP addresses or PM's. I think its a slippery slope if we start nominating or electing moderators, it's best to leave all the politics and such out of this - we essentially only need someone to read reports and click yes/no. Not that I don't think Quickseller would make a good mod or anything like that.

[BadBear]

There's unlikely to be more mods yet, things will change somewhat to make moderation more efficient and distribute the current workload over more people in the new forum, so it would be best to wait and see how it shakes out then.

*waits for images of skeletons and "lulz there's a new forum?"*

 

[Blazed]

There's unlikely to be more mods yet, things will change somewhat to make moderation more efficient and distribute the current workload over more people in the new forum, so it would be best to wait and see how it shakes out then.

*waits for images of skeletons and "lulz there's a new forum?"*

 

lulz there's a new forum?

[tspacepilot]

You do not know what happened via PM. Regarding the "speculation" that I planted the evidence myself, that is worthless, much like you.

In a saga that spans nearly 4 months now, he went after me starting this March/April for literally no known reason.  In case you didn't hear this one, it's quite nuts:

I have told you multiple times why I looked into your scammy history. It was because you started trolling me for no apparent reason.

I like it, "hey quickseller, please stop calling me an idiot, please stop call other people idiots too" = "trolling" 

In case you think he's learned from this and moved on, note this.  Just recently I saw that he's changed his rating on me back to negative.  He hasn't let go of the nonsense yet.  God knows why this guy hates me so much

You are a professional troll and a scammer. The reason other do not call you out as a scammer is because they do not want to deal with the drama that you cause when people disagree with you.

Right, I seeeeee, you are the only one brave enough to call me out using a pseduoanonymous account on an internet forum.  Ladies must swoon for you.  Or, ahem, perhaps more believably, the only reason others do not call me out is because it's only you and your boy tradefortress who have any issue.   And really, tradefortress seems to have better things to do than to troll me all day, so I guess it just leaves you.

Only one month ago he seems to have registered a newbie account, FunFunnyFan https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=519804 who was trying to sell a default trust account.  He spent one weekend trolling me with this account.  The writing style was the same as quickseller's and I have no doubt it was him trying to openly troll me without getting his main account involved again.  I thought it was very interesting that that account was trying to sell a default trust account and that the moment I said "hey you must be quickseller, no one else has any problem with me" the account disappeared and stopped trolling me.

You assume it is me because someone does not agree with you. This fits your MO very closely. Have you ever stopped to consider that you are simply not a likable person?

Nope, I assume that it's you because you're literally the only one in 3 years who has had any issue with me whatsoever.  It's quite embarrassing for you that you have to lie in bed with tradefortress in order to come up with an accusation against me and that you can't see how terribly that undermines any credibility in your other judgments.   Someone who would take tradefortress' word and run on a 3 year old false accusation over some personal vendetta is, ahem, kinda outlandish.  But people have to make their own judgments.  Anyway, selling a default trust account, QS?  That's a little edgy isn't it?

Indeed, once I had been the victim of a quickseller smear attack I started reading those meta threads saying quickseller was falsely accusing them with a new view.

You are lying again. You were falsely accused of nothing. You are a scammer and a troll. As I said in the beginning of this post, it is offensive that you have been allowed to troll for as long as you have. If results are not seen immediately, then further action will be taken to ensue that you are prevented from further trolling and from further spamming.

^^ was that some kind of threat?  Sweet.  Let's make quickseller a mod so that he can carry out the threats he's already making against forum members!

[ndnh]

Can't help but reply, lol. Well, I suppose this is not off-topic, since well indirectly defending my opinion?

--snip--

Additionally, for the record, you continued to promote an obvious scam for several months, and facilitated the promotion of such scam for several months in exchange for payment to yourself. There is no denying that you continued to promote such scam and there is no denying that you had the ability to shut down such advertisements for the scam site.

It is obvious only to you.
You always seemed to have something against someone from Da Dice or Da Dice altogether. And that too only from a few months back.

I trust Steve, and he gave me his word that he has no intention of scamming anyone (might seem stupid to you, but it isn't for me). But that was only recently. I know that they are trying to be the No. 1 gaming site in the Bitcoin world, and they are going for the long term. No one who intents to close a site or scam someone would try to keep improving and bring in new features continuosly. They have been working hard and still do.
You were expecting them to run when the campaign closed, right?

Edit: For payments to myself? really? As far as I know, you care more about money than I do. Money is never "that" important to me.

Edit2: You (and many others) will never trust anyone. But I do. I don't regret working for Da Dice, nor I hope I ever will.

Edit3: I think this one: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1021240.msg11055166#msg11055166 qualifies for the "promoting an obvious scam" tag than the one you are accusing of.

Edit4:

I am not refunding CryptoSplit's investors. That was not what the escrowed funds were intended for. I do not engage in social justice.

Following anything to the word (that isn't professional ethics anymore) is not really good, mate. IMO, you qualify to be a mod if you change your methods, but there are certain others who should have the chance first.

[Constructive criticism. Supposed to help you. ]

[LFC_Bitcoin]

--snip--

Sweet.  Let's make quickseller a mod so that he can carry out the threats he's already making against forum members!

I mentioned in another post that Quickseller can be good for the community but whilst I have no personal issue with him, the above is what concerns me.

I don't think he should be a mod because I don't trust him to have a straight enough head to moderate responsibly. I think he can be a bit like a kid with a gun. The power to harm & destroy but not the self restraint to control his shots & when/who he fires at.

I think he should be left as he is, a crime fighter but not a high powered one. I don't think he should be on default trust & I don't think he should be a mod. Once he makes his mind up on somebody or something that's it he doesn't listen to reason. As a moderator that could be dangerous.

[nutildah]

You are just another hater that always blames quickseller every time you can, dont you have anything else to do? You are so focused on this when there are way bigger problems out there, why dont you use your time doing something productive instead?

Idiot. Stop and form a thought before you type next time. What the FUCK do you think YOU are doing that is any different?

I am just trying to warn people that Quickseller is an evil hack, responsible for selling accounts that people use to defraud other forum members with. And you are defending his evil hackishness. So who's the bigger douchebag?

[stingers]

I wonder, amongst the people who all vouched for quickseller, how many are his alts out of them?
Probably many.

[hedgy73]

Yeah Quickseller gets my vote, he's a good active member of the community and always seems be on hand to give advice and has also probably put paid to many attempted scams.

[PenguinFire]

I will say, Quickseller is a quality member and poster here.  I wouldn't have any issue seeing him as a staff member.     Either way, best of luck mate!