Monero is irrelevant but the shills and despeate are still here

[J1mb0]

A couple days ago I wondered where all the trolls went, maybe because XMR bottomed out?

This is the typical Monero scammy tactic. When other cryptos are doing better things, spam the forum with inane Monero topics and spam other coin threads with trolling and FUD.
Then when reasonable and respectful forum members complain, call them trolls.

[TrueCryptonaire]

I am getting an increasing feeling that there is only one person with tor involved in XMR, which would make it the biggest scam in the history of mankind

I am getting an increasing feeling that there is only one troll bashing Monero with many alter egos, which would make the Monero trolling the biggest scam in the history of mankind.

[sofu]

While bagholders are shilling Monero the smart people are buying Vanilla 

Hey bagholders

Its not to late to FOMO VNL 

[benthach]

very sad indeed

[J1mb0]

What is Monero a clone of?

Bytecoin

Although they will tell you it is a fork with thousands of commits and enhancements and a 'thriving' development community.

[iCEBREAKER]

What is Monero a clone of?

Bytecoin

Although they will tell you it is a fork with thousands of commits and enhancements and a 'thriving' development community.

Monero is a clone of Bytecoin, except for the completely different emission schedule, the completely different block time, 1000s of lines of commits, integrated LMDB, etc.

Oh wait, Bytecoin has an Official GUI but Monero does not.

If Monero was a Bytecoin clone, it would also have Bytecoin's Official GUI.

Therefore, Monero is not a clone of Bytecoin.

Whew, that sure was hard to understand!

[J1mb0]

What is Monero a clone of?

Bytecoin

Although they will tell you it is a fork with thousands of commits and enhancements and a 'thriving' development community.

Monero is a clone of Bytecoin, except for the completely different emission schedule, the completely different block time, 1000s of lines of commits, integrated LMDB, etc.

There you go! 

[ElitistCA]

I dont see any value in Monero... Im not pedo, I dont wanna do all my money managing in secrecy like Im doing something wrong, that can only bring more problems/police into my life. I hope that crypto will be able to become legal, and will help with transparency and lesser the corruption.

[XMRpromotions]

I dont see any value in Monero... Im not pedo, I dont wanna do all my money managing in secrecy like Im doing something wrong, that can only bring more problems/police into my life. I hope that crypto will be able to become legal, and will help with transparency and lesser the corruption.

Monero can offer complete transparency with the view key:
https://twitter.com/XMRpromotions/status/628632960565166080

I also think you may want to take some time to understand why privacy should matter to us all:
https://twitter.com/XMRpromotions/status/626407810998218752

[g3rszpi]

I dont see any value in Monero... Im not pedo, I dont wanna do all my money managing in secrecy like Im doing something wrong, that can only bring more problems/police into my life. I hope that crypto will be able to become legal, and will help with transparency and lesser the corruption.

Monero can offer complete transparency with the view key:
https://twitter.com/XMRpromotions/status/628632960565166080

I also think you may want to take some time to understand why privacy should matter to us all:
https://twitter.com/XMRpromotions/status/626407810998218752

Why is anonymity so important these days?

[generalizethis]

I dont see any value in Monero... Im not pedo, I dont wanna do all my money managing in secrecy like Im doing something wrong, that can only bring more problems/police into my life. I hope that crypto will be able to become legal, and will help with transparency and lesser the corruption.

Monero can offer complete transparency with the view key:
https://twitter.com/XMRpromotions/status/628632960565166080

I also think you may want to take some time to understand why privacy should matter to us all:
https://twitter.com/XMRpromotions/status/626407810998218752

Why is anonymity so important these days?

Because you don't want bad guys (mobsters, hackers, thiefs, business competitors, spying agencies, my wife, ect) to steal or extort money or information from you. Even if you are following the law, you still don't want your income public record--so uber drivers using bitcoin QR codes for tips is probably a bad idea, and the more money involved, the worse of an idea it becomes.

[rustynailer]

[kekek]

I dont see any value in Monero... Im not pedo, I dont wanna do all my money managing in secrecy like Im doing something wrong, that can only bring more problems/police into my life. I hope that crypto will be able to become legal, and will help with transparency and lesser the corruption.

Monero can offer complete transparency with the view key:
https://twitter.com/XMRpromotions/status/628632960565166080

I also think you may want to take some time to understand why privacy should matter to us all:
https://twitter.com/XMRpromotions/status/626407810998218752

Why is anonymity so important these days?

It's not really anymore important than it was 10-20 years ago.

Having some privacy is a good thing, but the majority of the so called bad guys have little to no effect on the average person. Not to mention that any amount privacy needed by the average person is already available in much larger and more stable markets.


Also, a bit of an off topic point, but you're just getting ripped off if you tip an uber driver in ANY currency.

[Nxtblg]

Because you don't want bad guys (mobsters, hackers, thiefs, business competitors, spying agencies, my wife, ect) to steal or extort money or information from you. Even if you are following the law, you still don't want your income public record--so uber drivers using bitcoin QR codes for tips is probably a bad idea, and the more money involved, the worse of an idea it becomes.

Now that you mention it...if the Monero devs ever put together a lite and/or Web wallet that works seamlessly on a smart phone, it would make a durn good tip app. Imagine "zapping" a waitress with a Monero tip...

[Zer0Sum]

What is Monero a clone of?

Bytecoin

Although they will tell you it is a fork with thousands of commits and enhancements and a 'thriving' development community.

Monero is a clone of Bytecoin, except for the completely different emission schedule, the completely different block time, 1000s of lines of commits, integrated LMDB, etc.

Oh wait, Bytecoin has an Official GUI but Monero does not.

If Monero was a Bytecoin clone, it would also have Bytecoin's Official GUI.

Therefore, Monero is not a clone of Bytecoin.

Whew, that sure was hard to understand!

The reason Monero is such a clusterfuck...
Is because they started with the ByteCoin code which Peter Todd described as "atrocious".

Major design decisions must be made at the START of a complex project...
One is usually better off (a) coding from scratch than (b) cleaning up a nightmarish codebase.

Monero chose (b) and will be paying the price basically forever...
And, conversely, I doubt BCN will ever be reliable enough to be a major currency (I ran it recently on various PCs).

ByteCoin is basically a Pump... no one uses it.... and there is no volume relative to it's cap.

[americanpegasus]

I dont see any value in Monero... Im not pedo, I dont wanna do all my money managing in secrecy like Im doing something wrong, that can only bring more problems/police into my life. I hope that crypto will be able to become legal, and will help with transparency and lesser the corruption.

 
 
"I don't see the value of free speech, I have no intention of hosting a KKK rally.  I'm fine with not being able to speak freely about what I think; it will only bring more problems into my life ."
 
That's how fucking stupid you sound.

[kekek]

I dont see any value in Monero... Im not pedo, I dont wanna do all my money managing in secrecy like Im doing something wrong, that can only bring more problems/police into my life. I hope that crypto will be able to become legal, and will help with transparency and lesser the corruption.

 
  
"I don't see the value of free speech, I have no intention of hosting a KKK rally.  I'm fine with not being able to speak freely about what I think; it will only bring more problems into my life ."
  
That's how fucking stupid you sound.

I like how you guys just keep going back to "free speech is exactly the same as muh anonymous coin"

Explain how this level of anonymity is relevant to the average person? And do keep in mind that for a long time now money has been monitored in nearly every transaction.

[americanpegasus]

I dont see any value in Monero... Im not pedo, I dont wanna do all my money managing in secrecy like Im doing something wrong, that can only bring more problems/police into my life. I hope that crypto will be able to become legal, and will help with transparency and lesser the corruption.

 
  
"I don't see the value of free speech, I have no intention of hosting a KKK rally.  I'm fine with not being able to speak freely about what I think; it will only bring more problems into my life ."
  
That's how fucking stupid you sound.

I like how you guys just keep going back to "free speech is exactly the same as muh anonymous coin"

Explain how this level of anonymity is relevant to the average person? And do keep in mind that for a long time now money has been monitored in nearly every transaction.

 
 
You must explained why Monero is so great. 
 
We finally have the freedom of money again. 
 
This is true freedom.

[generalizethis]

I dont see any value in Monero... Im not pedo, I dont wanna do all my money managing in secrecy like Im doing something wrong, that can only bring more problems/police into my life. I hope that crypto will be able to become legal, and will help with transparency and lesser the corruption.

 
  
"I don't see the value of free speech, I have no intention of hosting a KKK rally.  I'm fine with not being able to speak freely about what I think; it will only bring more problems into my life ."
  
That's how fucking stupid you sound.

I like how you guys just keep going back to "free speech is exactly the same as muh anonymous coin"

Explain how this level of anonymity is relevant to the average person? And do keep in mind that for a long time now money has been monitored in nearly every transaction.

Again, look up and read what I wrote about bad guys. You do not want your cryptocurrency balance public anymore than you want your bank account balance public. Just because we've gotten used to the idea that money is public, doesn't mean that anyone should be comfortable with it being public.

Here's a quick mental experiment: You have the option of using one of two banks for your business. The first does not disclose any of your account information without your express permission, and the second posts your account holdings and transactions online irregardless if you are buying groceries or paying for treatment of testicular cancer. Which bank are you going to use?

Information is power and I'm not handing mine over without so much as a conversation.

[SockPuppetAccount]

Explain how this level of anonymity is relevant to the average person? And do keep in mind that for a long time now money has been monitored in nearly every transaction.

This level of anonymity is not relevant to the average person.  If we further expand the free speech comparison, free speech is not relevant to the average person either. 

Even if society all of a sudden stopped valuing the concept of free speech, there are few who would espouse views so universally abhorred by society that it would be deemed reasonable to have them silenced.  NAMBLA comes to mind as an organization that sickens most people.  Free speech protects their right to exist but the value of free speech is so high that we accept it. You gotta take the good with the bad.

It's the same with money.  Most people don't have a reason to care that their finances can me monitored so easily by the government.  If our money and financial transactions could be made completely anonymous and hidden, it is going to make life a lot easier for those who profit off of child pornography.  That fact doesn't discount the value of financial anonymity to a truly free society.  You gotta take the good with the bad.