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July 16, 2015, 11:51:35 AM |
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Pay your fucking taxes.
Reason why you lost your money?
- Pensions at age 40 - Government borrows money to repay older debt. - Not all citizens pay their taxes.
These are the three main ones...
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July 16, 2015, 12:35:59 PM |
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Pay your fucking taxes.
Reason why you lost your money?
- Pensions at age 40 - Government borrows money to repay older debt. - Not all citizens pay their taxes.
These are the three main ones...
In what country to "everyone" pay their taxes? Didn't you know Greece has the longest work schedule of all Europe with really low salaries? They've also had a series of governments that have ruined the country as well, it's not "the Greeks" faulty. Your comment is a classic anti-greek cliched one. The only thing I agree with is they shouldn't be retiring that early. No one likes to work but guess what, life sucks if you aren't born rich.
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July 16, 2015, 12:57:50 PM |
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Pay your fucking taxes.
Reason why you lost your money?
- Pensions at age 40 - Government borrows money to repay older debt. - Not all citizens pay their taxes.
These are the three main ones...
In what country to "everyone" pay their taxes? Didn't you know Greece has the longest work schedule of all Europe with really low salaries? They've also had a series of governments that have ruined the country as well, it's not "the Greeks" faulty. Your comment is a classic anti-greek cliched one. The only thing I agree with is they shouldn't be retiring that early. No one likes to work but guess what, life sucks if you aren't born rich. In 90% of all the other European countries.. You are punished for not paying tax.
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July 16, 2015, 01:36:48 PM |
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In what country to "everyone" pay their taxes? Didn't you know Greece has the longest work schedule of all Europe with really low salaries? They've also had a series of governments that have ruined the country as well, it's not "the Greeks" faulty. Your comment is a classic anti-greek cliched one. The only thing I agree with is they shouldn't be retiring that early. No one likes to work but guess what, life sucks if you aren't born rich.
Longest work schedule on it's own means nothing if that work isn't well organized and effective. The salaries there are a lot higher than salaries in Central Europe or in the Baltic States for longer working hours and much more actual work. Of course a part of the people exploited the "opportunities" but let's be honest who wouldn't do that if that's safely doable. Anyway I'd blame the Greek politicians in the first place as they really stole or wasted most of the money what they've got however they were well aware of the coming storm since ages. The second place goes to the EU officials who kept making stupid decisions for purely political reasons.
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July 16, 2015, 03:58:48 PM |
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that bailout money doesnt go to ordinary greeks, it goes to banks
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July 16, 2015, 04:04:33 PM |
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- Pensions at age 40 As per the new deal, the Greeks will retire at the age of 67 years. I don't know how many of them will even survive up to that age. - Government borrows money to repay older debt. Do you think that this is limited to Greece? 60% of the Japanese government revenues are used to repay the old debt. What about that? - Not all citizens pay their taxes. How they are going to pay taxes, when there is no income? BTW... you should remember that the VAT is around 30% there.
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July 16, 2015, 04:22:44 PM |
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How they are going to pay taxes, when there is no income? The pro debt-slavery quasi-fascists are not too fuckin' bright man. Austerity economics doesn't work when half the working population - including most of your best and brightest - can just up and leave the nation. Greece has already lost it's best resource, the youth.
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July 16, 2015, 09:04:20 PM |
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Everything you wrote is only true. They were living for tax for many years, and now many countries will pay their taxes maybe ? Thats big piece of follies.
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July 17, 2015, 02:25:53 AM |
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July 17, 2015, 02:32:06 AM |
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Then death by drawing it will be. Their future was written on their flag all along. Thank GOD for pointing out this amazing prophecy to us...
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July 17, 2015, 04:52:15 AM Last edit: July 17, 2015, 05:24:32 AM by Tusk |
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Pay your fucking taxes.
Reason why you lost your money?
- Pensions at age 40 - Government borrows money to repay older debt. - Not all citizens pay their taxes.
These are the three main ones...
Correction they lost the money of the idiots who lent them the money, those idiots can't expect the children of those they lent the money to, to repay the debt of their parents. If the lenders are unhappy with - Pensions at age 40 - Government borrows money to repay older debt. - Not all citizens pay their taxes. The lenders should of insisted these conditions to be remedied before lending the money. All the lenders were interested in was the money they would make out of the deal and not the risks that came with it.
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V for Varoufakis
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July 17, 2015, 08:50:37 AM |
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The taxpayers from Greece paid 664.331 billions euros to Germans usurers-criminals-thieves from 1991 to 2011. ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2F3.bp.blogspot.com%2F-dHELYlnbrjA%2FT92ReGq4ieI%2FAAAAAAAAP20%2FtJw8PMAKXjw%2Fs640%2Fh-megalh-lhsteia-apo-to-xrhmatiko-kefalaio.png&t=665&c=WfrTsZ8RTplnOw)
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July 17, 2015, 02:57:40 PM |
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Apparently, in 2012 Yanis Varoufakis (who was the Greek Finance Minister until he quit after the recent referendum farce) responded to one of my tweets regarding Bitcoin. I only noticed this because of Michele Berionni's tweet today. The Tweets: Erik Voorhees @ErikVoorhees 1 Oct 2012 @yanisvaroufakis @HostFat It is regulated, only by mathematics instead of politicians. Yanis Varoufakis @yanisvaroufakis 1 Oct 2012 @ErikVoorhees @hostfat If only that we're possible. Stores of value and means of exchange can only be regulated by human agency. Yanis Varoufakis @yanisvaroufakis 2 Oct 2012 @HostFat @Derek701 @ErikVoorhees Mathematics cannot protect one's holdings of bitcoins - as bitter experience has proven. Michele Berionni @elianto76 3m3 minutes ago .@yanisvaroufakis @HostFat @ErikVoorhees so far it has protected my holdings much better that many politicians have proven to be able to do The price of Bitcoin was about $12.50 when Varoufakis made his comment. Bitcoin has since appreciated 20x. Greek debt and misery has soared in similar fashion... Scoreboard Source: https://twitter.com/elianto76/status/621754049499656192https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/3djc1u/funny_twitter_convo_fmr_greek_finance_minister/
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July 17, 2015, 03:30:50 PM |
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The taxpayers from Greece paid 664.331 billions euros to Germans usurers-criminals-thieves from 1991 to 2011. ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2F3.bp.blogspot.com%2F-dHELYlnbrjA%2FT92ReGq4ieI%2FAAAAAAAAP20%2FtJw8PMAKXjw%2Fs640%2Fh-megalh-lhsteia-apo-to-xrhmatiko-kefalaio.png&t=665&c=WfrTsZ8RTplnOw) Kinda sounds like that was their fault for borrowing money in the first place and agreeing to those terms. When you don't have your house in order, you're a desperate borrower and don't have much bargaining power. The brilliant part about being fiscally responsible is that there are no usurers-criminals-thieves to pay back.
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July 17, 2015, 05:28:44 PM |
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The taxpayers from Greece paid 664.331 billions euros to Germans usurers-criminals-thieves from 1991 to 2011. ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2F3.bp.blogspot.com%2F-dHELYlnbrjA%2FT92ReGq4ieI%2FAAAAAAAAP20%2FtJw8PMAKXjw%2Fs640%2Fh-megalh-lhsteia-apo-to-xrhmatiko-kefalaio.png&t=665&c=WfrTsZ8RTplnOw) Kinda sounds like that was their fault for borrowing money in the first place and agreeing to those terms. When you don't have your house in order, you're a desperate borrower and don't have much bargaining power. The brilliant part about being fiscally responsible is that there are no usurers-criminals-thieves to pay back. Perfect response.
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July 18, 2015, 05:36:30 PM |
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Retire at 40??
Shit, I thought all this lazy Greek stuff was just a stereotype
But damn, 40!
We retire at 65!
They live a lot better then us, altough their % GDP debt is double of ours xD
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July 18, 2015, 05:59:15 PM |
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Retire at 40??
Shit, I thought all this lazy Greek stuff was just a stereotype
Check the facts before you type these sort of stuff. The retirement age in Greece is 61 years (since 2007), and they are going to increase it to 67 years, as a part of the deal reached with the troika. Before 2007, the retirement age in Greece was 58 years, which was lower than the age of 67 years in Germany. But still, there is a huge difference between 40 and 58.
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