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July 17, 2015, 05:27:08 AM |
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Good morning, did anybody know the company www.yesminers.de ? Is that a realy god new company or scam? https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1125157.0YESMINER "M20" BATCH 1 $4,750.00 IN STOCK - 16nm 3D FinFET Bitcoin (SHA-256) Miner - 20000 GH/s (20 TH/s) - 1500W (at the wall) Best Regards Willi
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July 17, 2015, 05:32:29 AM |
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I'm going to go with scam.
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July 17, 2015, 05:33:30 AM |
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One of the unwritten rules of buying on the net, if it aint https it aint real.
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July 17, 2015, 05:35:43 AM |
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https ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif)
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July 17, 2015, 05:40:00 AM |
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Looks a bit fishy... On the positive side: they accept paypal, and they're selling a physical product. In theory, you should be able to claim your money back if they screw you over???
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July 17, 2015, 05:44:33 AM |
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Pre-Order from a unknow compagny. No physical evidences (Chips, Devices). They can send me a unit, I will do a review ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif)
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July 17, 2015, 05:47:12 AM |
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yes, but paypal has many points in the Company Conditions to say no to pay mony back
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July 17, 2015, 05:59:21 AM |
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yes, but paypal has many points in the Company Conditions to say no to pay mony back
You do have to be carefull... You can only claim your money back for 180 days (if i remember correctly). Since it's a pre-order, it might be their trick to keep you hanging for 180 days (with promises, lies, changes,...), untill they chargeback period from paypal is over... Or it might be a trick to get a free 180-day loan. Or it might be a fishing expedition for usernames/adresses/...
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July 17, 2015, 06:31:41 AM |
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yes, but paypal has many points in the Company Conditions to say no to pay mony back
You do have to be carefull... You can only claim your money back for 180 days (if i remember correctly). Since it's a pre-order, it might be their trick to keep you hanging for 180 days (with promises, lies, changes,...), untill they chargeback period from paypal is over... Or it might be a trick to get a free 180-day loan. Or it might be a fishing expedition for usernames/adresses/... Agree. All of which makes for a very bad idea.
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July 17, 2015, 06:45:56 AM |
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yes, but paypal has many points in the Company Conditions to say no to pay mony back
You do have to be carefull... You can only claim your money back for 180 days (if i remember correctly). Since it's a pre-order, it might be their trick to keep you hanging for 180 days (with promises, lies, changes,...), untill they chargeback period from paypal is over... Or it might be a trick to get a free 180-day loan. Or it might be a fishing expedition for usernames/adresses/... Most likely they will hope some order in BTC, and that they win a few paypal from people waiting to long. But unknown company... and pre-order. They did not even do a rendering, or prototype. So we can safely say scam.
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July 17, 2015, 06:48:50 AM |
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Scam. Avoid.
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July 17, 2015, 07:42:34 AM |
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Currently the best efficinetcy available (to the public) is about 0.3 w/gh/s
If someone would be able to make a 0.075 w/gh/s miner, they would seek private investors --> this is a scam
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July 17, 2015, 07:03:30 PM |
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I agree with Burks, a 4x improvement in efficiency from an unknown company just reeks of scam.
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The name a lone should tell you some thing is not right THE YesMiner Lmao and
Does the KNC version even do 20 th per one miner ? .
I don't know i don't look at KNC stuff to much because I Know we as home miner that do it, would never get one of these if it is even real on our homes brand new unless we know some one.
I saw the same miner in adds some place else but with a diff name one was this forum and one of the exchanges that has a store he was offering to back a loan and all you need to have is a 680 Credit score and buying this on Ebay might tell you something i have yet to see something like this sell on Ebay i would trust them more then this guy , i don't trust them to much either .
And i would think it would cost more then what he is tiring to ripe some one off for if it is real , i would say something like this would sell for closer to 12 K at first but if he can get a few fools at the 5 k price he will make out like a fox in a hen house.
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July 18, 2015, 01:34:58 AM |
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OP is originator of this scam in at least the local german forum. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1125157.0i do not speak german but it looks like he is taking orders on these miners. check his posts. and leave appropriate trust.
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July 18, 2015, 04:07:35 PM |
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Anyone can create a website and many scams have. You can create your own miner from home in just a few hours. Don't be fooled, companies able to acquire this tech usually have some staking in the community. Spondoolies was an exception to the rule and delivered.
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July 18, 2015, 04:16:08 PM |
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This has scam written all over it.
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July 18, 2015, 04:37:01 PM |
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I will go with the majority on this and say it is a scam. Https is a secure way to make sure a company is legit because they pay hundreds of dollars($600+ from what I remember) to obtain that status every year.
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July 18, 2015, 04:40:50 PM |
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20 TH/s at 1500W?
There are the scam-dancers all over the page.
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July 18, 2015, 05:15:52 PM |
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Anything that pops up from a new unheard of vendor at this point is a scam in my eyes. Especially with these numbers.
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