Iran nuclear deal reached with world powers

[rodzimajid]

VIENNA — Iran and a group of six nations led by the United States reached a historic accord on Tuesday to significantly limit Tehran’s nuclear ability for more than a decade in return for lifting international oil and financial sanctions.

The deal culminates 20 months of negotiations on an agreement that President Obama had long sought as the biggest diplomatic achievement of his presidency. Whether it portends a new relationship between the United States and Iran — after decades of coups, hostage-taking, terrorism and sanctions — remains a bigger question.

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The good thing is that it appears to have many, or all, of the elements that make it a good agreement. I've already hears both pros and cons on this, but perhaps the best one was where a commentator on CNN asked a simple question of those who might be totally opposed to this - what alternative do you have? Of course, while I just heard Speaker Boehner uttering that they will carefully review all of the details, he said he doubted it was a good deal.

Here's a transcript of the president's announcement.

[godlyitems]

Oil prices are dropping on news of the deal.

So now the Repubs will promise their Base that they'll "stop the deal"....

which means they'll be promising ALL of us.....they'll help raise oil prices.

Go for it

[KriszDev]

Oil prices are dropping on news of the deal.

So now the Repubs will promise their Base that they'll "stop the deal"....

which means they'll be promising ALL of us.....they'll help raise oil prices.

Go for it

Yes . . . because the price of oil is vastly more important than the safety of the West and Israel. Now we know the nature of leftist priorities. All hail selfishness! So, no surprise there.

[rio3232]

The good thing is that it appears to have many, or all, of the elements that make it a good agreement. I've already hears both pros and cons on this, but perhaps the best one was where a commentator on CNN asked a simple question of those who might be totally opposed to this - what alternative do you have? Of course, while I just heard Speaker Boehner uttering that they will carefully review all of the details, he said he doubted it was a good deal.

"We have a deal. It's a deal worse than even we imagined possible. It's a deal that gives the Iranian regime $140b in return for ... effectively nothing: no dismantlement of Iran's nuclear program, no anytime/anywhere inspections, no curbs on Iran's ballistic missile program, no maintenance of the arms embargo, no halt to Iran's sponsorship of terror."
http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/very-good-deal-iran_990662.html

Can you explain what we got out of it? Have they promised to stop funding terrorism? Have they withdrawn their cries to wipe Israel off the face of the earth? Have they promised to stop chanting death to America?

As has been repeated, no deal is better than a bad deal and this is a bad deal.

Two parties got what they wanted, Iran is richer and can continue down it's path to a nuclear weapon and Obama can claim his legacy and then hand it off to someone else.

Oil prices are dropping on news of the deal.

So now the Repubs will promise their Base that they'll "stop the deal"....

which means they'll be promising ALL of us.....they'll help raise oil prices.

Go for it

So which is it, you want lower oil prices and more oil usage or higher oil prices and less oil usage? We could have lower oil prices without giving Iran the clear path to a nuclear weapon, why do you support the latter?

[godlyitems]

Yes . . . because the price of oil is vastly more important than the safety of the West and Israel. Now we know the nature of leftist priorities. All hail selfishness! So, no surprise there.

Gosh, why doesn't NETANYAHU ....DO something about Iran if it poses such a threat to Israel"


Oh, that's right...he's a punk who wants US to fight his war for him.

So which is it, you want lower oil prices and more oil usage or higher oil prices and less oil usage? We could have lower oil prices without giving Iran the clear path to a nuclear weapon, why do you support the latter?

The Right has been claiming Iran is "months away from a nuke"....since 2007.


And yes, we know the GOP's plan to lower oil prices....putting up oil derricks on every beach in America and fracking under every National Park.

[rio3232]

And yes, we know the GOP's plan to lower oil prices....putting up oil derricks on every beach in America and fracking under every National Park.

I want to know your answer to the question asked try again

So which is it, you want lower oil prices and more oil usage or higher oil prices and less oil usage? We could have lower oil prices without giving Iran the clear path to a nuclear weapon, why do you support the latter?

[Harriss]

Oil prices are dropping on news of the deal.

So now the Repubs will promise their Base that they'll "stop the deal"....

which means they'll be promising ALL of us.....they'll help raise oil prices.

Go for it

High Gas Prices are good for our oil industry, why would we want it to go down?

[godlyitems]

I want to know your answer to the question asked try again

So which is it, you want lower oil prices and more oil usage or higher oil prices and less oil usage? We could have lower oil prices without giving Iran the clear path to a nuclear weapon, why do you support the latter?

I did answer it. The Right has bulls***tted about when Iran would get a nuke for just under a decade now.

Today, arch-Neo-Con Tom Cotton says the deal will see Iran "get a nuclear weapon in 10-15 years". When according to the same guys...Iran should have gotten a nuke in 2008!!!!!

So why would current oil prices have anything to do with more failed Rightwing predictions of when Iran will get a nuke???

High Gas Prices are good for our oil industry, why would we want it to go down?

Interesting theory. Guess the Right who scream "Drill Baby Drill" hate capitalism?

[peterson33]

 The Right has bulls***tted

Obama just made a nuclear deal with state sponsors of terrorism, and you blame rightys......

tsk tsk tsk.....

next Obama will give Osama a congressional medal of honor.....

[morin]

High Gas Prices are good for our oil industry, why would we want it to go down?

Fixed!
Oil company makes 8 cents a gallon. (approx)
Fed makes 40 cents a gallon. (approx)
On every gallon of fuel sold in America.
A lot of people don't know that.
Fuel prices could be lower if the Fed and State Govts wanted them to.
..or were forced to account for the 85% of the revenue that's not infrastructure else drop the rate by 85%.

[abasin]

The good thing is that it appears to have many, or all, of the elements that make it a good agreement. I've already hears both pros and cons on this, but perhaps the best one was where a commentator on CNN asked a simple question of those who might be totally opposed to this - what alternative do you have?

The status quo where Iran does not have a bomb works for me.
If nothing else Iran's money spigot will be turned full on now and the planet's number one sponsor of terrorism will
will have just that much more to give to the people that blow up other people.

Why is that something to cheer about?

Of course, while I just heard Speaker Boehner uttering that they will carefully review all of the details, he said he doubted it was a good deal.

No one knows the details of this pointless
deal but Obama has already promised to veto any attempts to stop it.
Have four Americans being jailed in Iran been released as part of this deal? The answer is no and that alone makes this deal a failure. I'll bet Valerie Jarrett is pleased, however.

[Harriss]

I did answer it. The Right has bulls***tted about when Iran would get a nuke for just under a decade now.

Today, arch-Neo-Con Tom Cotton says the deal will see Iran "get a nuclear weapon in 10-15 years". When according to the same guys...Iran should have gotten a nuke in 2008!!!!!

So why would current oil prices have anything to do with more failed Rightwing predictions of when Iran will get a nuke???

Drilling in the US does not lower prices, it just creates more jobs and money in the economy. Our oil is heavy, and is viable only when prices are higher world wide.

[pitham1]

Oil prices are dropping on news of the deal.

So now the Repubs will promise their Base that they'll "stop the deal"....

which means they'll be promising ALL of us.....they'll help raise oil prices.

Go for it

Oil prices have actually increased after the deal, when the fine print became known.
It will take some time before Iranian oil prices increase to pre-sanction levels.

[arul.BP]

"We have a deal. It's a deal worse than even we imagined possible. It's a deal that gives the Iranian regime $140b in return for ... effectively nothing: no dismantlement of Iran's nuclear program, no anytime/anywhere inspections, no curbs on Iran's ballistic missile program, no maintenance of the arms embargo, no halt to Iran's sponsorship of terror."
http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/very-good-deal-iran_990662.html

So which is it, you want lower oil prices and more oil usage or higher oil prices and less oil usage? We could have lower oil prices without giving Iran the clear path to a nuclear weapon, why do you support the latter?

I'm not inclined to give the Weekly Standard much in the way of credibility. At least not since their editor, Bill Kristol, cheered for the Iraq war and casually dismissed the idea that there was any ethnic tension between Sunni and Shiitte muslims.

Fixed!
Oil company makes 8 cents a gallon. (approx)
Fed makes 40 cents a gallon. (approx)
On every gallon of fuel sold in America.
A lot of people don't know that.
Fuel prices could be lower if the Fed and State Govts wanted them to.
..or were forced to account for the 85% of the revenue that's not infrastructure else drop the rate by 85%.

You do realize that the 8 cents number you cite is the profit the retailer makes, not the profit the oil producer makes.

[godlyitems]

Drilling in the US does not lower prices, it just creates more jobs and money in the economy. Our oil is heavy, and is viable only when prices are higher world wide.

When supply reaches demand....what happens to those jobs?

Obama just made a nuclear deal with state sponsors of terrorism, and you blame rightys......
tsk tsk tsk.....
Next Obama will give Osama a congressional medal of honor.....

Reagan negotiated with the "evil empire" on arms treaties....

AND sold weapons to that same country you just mentioned.

And you guys consider him "beloved".

[Harriss]

When supply reaches demand....what happens to those jobs?

Nothing happens to those jobs, unless the price of oil falls through the floor. I doubt that will be happening, anytime soon.

[tigervod]

Need to see all the details before i pass judgement.

[godlyitems]

Nothing happens to those jobs, unless the price of oil falls through the floor. I doubt that will be happening, anytime soon.

So oil companies will keep working their employees, to continue to produce more and more oil....even as supply exceeds demand and their profit margins fall?

[issacsy]

We heard the same song before N. Korea got their nuclear bomb despite all assurances they would not.