LKETC 5T 1000W is it real?

[philipma1957]

if what i punched in is correct ?

pool fee 3% includes exchange fees (just an assumption & a quickie)

don't look good at all sadly my friend.

http://imgur.com/ILBcIUl

those are good numbers.  the key is  it runs way better then power costs.


mining to roi in house for guys like me at 18 cents and 10 cents no longer happens.

I buy gear that allows 6 to 9 months of profit then sell to a guy with cheap power.  I can not roi any other way.

my pool fees are under 2% and no variance.

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[yslyung]

if what i punched in is correct ?

pool fee 3% includes exchange fees (just an assumption & a quickie)

don't look good at all sadly my friend.

http://imgur.com/ILBcIUl

those are good numbers.  the key is  it runs way better then power costs.


mining to roi in house for guys like me at 18 cents and 10 cents no longer happens.

I buy gear that allows 6 to 9 months of profit then sell to a guy with cheap power.  I can not roi any other way.

my pool fees are under 2% and no variance.

yeps. takes a VERY long time to ROI even with free electricity, 0 pool fees & assuming 0 maint costs such as internet, rent & others such as setup fees.

rough math says 169 days without hiccup with btc price of USD 275 a piece diff at 1% increment. that is miner priced at USD 2000, 0 s&h, 0 tax & miner plugged in right now.

[miguelmorales85]

let's wait and if the price tag shows a 3k.. then they will take my money!

[notlist3d]

let's wait and if the price tag shows a 3k.. then they will take my money!

First 1T dragons were in this area (think first batch might have been a tad higher).   It's really hard to say what price will be.   LKETC got good at selling even at lower price as product went down to less then 1/3 of original price and down even more.

A lot will depend on competition.  Who has next get chips and what the are doing.  We need multiple next gen fighting for business for best customer prices.

[Xian01]

Nancy has been unresponsive to emails for days now.

[QuintLeo]

1% difficulty increase is a non-starter. Even with the very low diff increases since around turn of the year the AVERAGE has been close to 1.6% so far this year, and the last month that's been ramping up and seems like to STAY ramped up some for a while due to deployment of "next gen miners". I've been using 2% for my recent estimates on ROI and even THAT might be a bit on the low side for the rest of this year.

 This miner might sell for $3000 as specified (Lketc does have a decent track record on that) if it's available in the next month or two, but IMO it would be better priced for a reasonable chance at ROI at $2499 WITH SHIPPING if available by the end of August, then drop that at least 5% per month after that.

 The .2GH/W figure seems a bit iffy though, given Innosilicon is only CLAIMING a 60% lower power draw over the A1 in their post. VERY nice if it actually happens and seems to be possible though given the process (half the process size as a general rule should yield ballpark 4x lower power draw at the same clock, though somewhat less in recent years as semiconductor process technology has entered the realm of quantum effects being significant).

 Lketc has been around long enough and has delivered enough on it's claims that I'm willing to say this is probably a "waiting on chips to hit production" preannouncement and NOT a scam. I'm mostly just waiting to see (1) what the price ends up being to the end user, (2) what the specs and price on the S7 ends up being, and (3) when this stuff finally hits end-user sales.



 I would anticipate a few years for the current "in the works" tech to try to ROI, as BitCoin ASIC in this generation catches up with the "leading edge" of semiconductor tech in general, and given that the pace of semiconductor tech generations is slowing down noticeably due to increasing quantum-level issues. We're still a few generations away from "one electron = flip the gate" but that light IS visible at the end of the silicon tunnel.....

[RealMalatesta]

Get ready for the $4000-$5000 prices again.

I doubt that they will set a very high price. When the Dragons came out, they had a pretty good pricing. I ordered several miners with them directly, and the operation went smooth every single time. Only grain of salt: All the PSUs died very quickly, so if they haven't found a new supplier, I'd recommend to order high quality PSUs in advance...

[QuintLeo]

Their competition "right now" would be the Bitmain S5+ unit - 7.7TH at $2750 + shipping right now, though it eats 3400 watts - or the S5 (5xS5 right now would be $1760 + shipping with the recent price drop)

Their REAL competition will probably be the S7 when it finally starts selling, though it's hard to tell since Bitmain has not announced specs yet for the S7 much less pricing.

 70% of the hash for a third of the power cost puts it in the same ballpark of "worth" vs. the S5+ IMO with a small advantage to the Lktec due to the efficiency, but I personally think the S5+ is noticeably too high (it should be closer to $2200 plus shipping to have decent chance at ROI, and IMO the S5 should be back down to about $320 for a decent chance to ROI).

 Also, based on a LOT of reports I've seen, Lktec would be better off NOT including door-stops-to-be, errr power supplies. Just leave space in the units for a good quality ATX power supply bought locally would be better.

[Rabinovitch]

It will (should) be real! Let's just wait for August, 20th. 

[QuintLeo]

Where does the August 20th date come from?

 (edit) never mind, saw a reference to "more announcement" in a different thread.

[Tigggger]

pcfli, buyer/hoster of a lot of LKetc stuff says that it's eta is December

[notlist3d]

pcfli, buyer/hoster of a lot of LKetc stuff says that it's eta is December

Ouch longer then most of us were wanting to wait.  But if anyone has inside info it would be him.   He sold a ton of their other gear.

Guess we will see but I really hope we are not waiting 4 months.

[TheRealSteve]

Where does the August 20th date come from?

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1033676.msg12108620#msg12108620

[alh]

Where does the August 20th date come from?

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1033676.msg12108620#msg12108620

My interpretation of the above is that August 20th is the date for more details. That doesn't imply to me that they will actually ship in August. I expect we'll get specifications, and possibly pricing and more dates on August 20th.

I kinda get this feeling the various big ASIC vendors are waiting for the others to actually ship something, and then they'll respond. It would appear that SFARDS didn't trigger them, though maybe the S5+ is the response to SFARDS.

[QuintLeo]

Sfards has barely shipped anything. Not really worth being responded to, especially if the ONE report I've seen about "in the wild" ones is a good representation of the (UN)reliability level of the SF100.


 I'd already decided I wanted to see (1) a major price DROP, AND (2) quite a few reports on the SF100 before I was willing to risk anything on their design - Gridseed's JUNK board-level design work on both the orbs AND the blades was not what I'm interested in putting up with on a miner ever again.