amaclin (OP)
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July 22, 2015, 02:28:24 PM |
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Whoever mines the block which ends up containing your transaction will get its fee.
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OROBTC
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July 22, 2015, 05:49:32 PM |
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Except for people who want micropayments (and, um, that's what these appear to be, LOTS of them), I still have not seen ANY convincing arguments against the idea of raising minimums:
1) minimum BTC sent to, say, BTC0.001
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2) minimum transaction fee to, say, BTC0.0002
I would rather have a robust BTC Ecosystem that gets my payments through in good time than worry about sending amounts of less than US$0.20.............
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Mickeyb
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July 22, 2015, 05:52:19 PM |
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Just raise tx fees slightly. 0.0002 will do per transaction and no problems with spam attacks, at least not for the moment. Anyways it's not a great difference to ordinary folks who are sending few transactions a day, 0.0001 or 0.0002
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Josef27
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July 22, 2015, 06:01:41 PM |
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At least they got free dust. Good for covering up 10% of your next transaction fees.
I don't really mind if get attacked by dust spammer
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BTCBinary
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July 22, 2015, 06:54:07 PM |
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This is the real proof and why I keep believing that we really need a Block size increase!
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unamis76
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July 22, 2015, 06:54:29 PM |
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Is this a known address from somewhere? It obviously doesn't have that balance just because of dust
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iqbal15st
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July 22, 2015, 07:57:00 PM |
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Is this a known address from somewhere? It obviously doesn't have that balance just because of dust I too have experienced this sort of thing, but I am grateful to be able to make as a replacement because the transaction fee
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baristor
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July 22, 2015, 10:48:45 PM |
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That balance :O If only we all had that much in our wallets,,,, ! GJZ!
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dukeneptun
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July 22, 2015, 10:56:08 PM |
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Pathi
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July 22, 2015, 10:56:16 PM |
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Cant that many people out there with this much bitcoin. Maybe this will help with finding out who is doing this crap.
OOOPs I dint see that was the receiving addie.
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newb4now
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July 22, 2015, 10:57:50 PM |
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Except for people who want micropayments (and, um, that's what these appear to be, LOTS of them), I still have not seen ANY convincing arguments against the idea of raising minimums:
1) minimum BTC sent to, say, BTC0.001
and/or
2) minimum transaction fee to, say, BTC0.0002
I would rather have a robust BTC Ecosystem that gets my payments through in good time than worry about sending amounts of less than US$0.20.............
micropayments is the only legit reason. Unfortunately there are many good use cases for micropayments that raising the minimum fee too much could significantly harm
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odolvlobo
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July 23, 2015, 02:24:10 AM |
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Except for people who want micropayments (and, um, that's what these appear to be, LOTS of them), I still have not seen ANY convincing arguments against the idea of raising minimums: 1) minimum BTC sent to, say, BTC0.001 and/or 2) minimum transaction fee to, say, BTC0.0002 I would rather have a robust BTC Ecosystem that gets my payments through in good time than worry about sending amounts of less than US$0.20.............
The argument against is that it is unnecessary. If you you want your transaction confirmed promptly, you only have to raise the amount that you pay.
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bryant.coleman
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July 23, 2015, 03:45:43 AM |
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Except for people who want micropayments (and, um, that's what these appear to be, LOTS of them), I still have not seen ANY convincing arguments against the idea of raising minimums:
1) minimum BTC sent to, say, BTC0.001
and/or
2) minimum transaction fee to, say, BTC0.0002
I would rather have a robust BTC Ecosystem that gets my payments through in good time than worry about sending amounts of less than US$0.20.............
A payment of BTC0.001 comes in the category of micropayments, right? Anyway who want to pay someone with BTC0.0001 or lesser amounts, other than the spammers? In my opinion, BTC0.001 should be the absolute minimum. And the minimum transaction fee should be BTC0.0001. This will decrease the spamming quite a lot.
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pooya87
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July 23, 2015, 04:57:56 AM |
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Except for people who want micropayments (and, um, that's what these appear to be, LOTS of them), I still have not seen ANY convincing arguments against the idea of raising minimums: 1) minimum BTC sent to, say, BTC0.001 and/or 2) minimum transaction fee to, say, BTC0.0002 I would rather have a robust BTC Ecosystem that gets my payments through in good time than worry about sending amounts of less than US$0.20.............
you are asking for a change in the system so you should provide valid argument and convince others to accept your proposal . anybody else is ok with the current fees and how things are working, especially now that the test / spam attack is over things are normal again. besides nobody is forced to use the standard fee, if you prefer higher chance of getting confirmation you can increase the fees of your own transactions.
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July 23, 2015, 05:31:11 AM |
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pooya87
My suggested minimums (BTC0.001 and BTC0.0002) were really just a starting point for discussion. I do understand that there might have to be significant changes to the programming. Which might not be worth it.
I am in NO position to say whether my idea is any good or not. It's just an idea.
bryant.coleman
Same comment, the numbers I put out there "seem reasonable".
odolvlobo
How do I count the symmetries? Ah, but back to business, I have been doing what you just suggested since the spam attacks started, and my three of four transactions went through fine (sending & receiving). But, I read reports of people NOT getting their BTC for a long time even though the transaction fees were not zero or close.
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July 23, 2015, 06:01:17 AM |
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They happen relatively often as marketing campaigns for various companies. I never take any notice of them, but if a few thousand companies were to do that to me I wouldn't say no. It's probably best to ignore any transaction when it's that low as it's not really worthwhile or likely that it came from any other source.
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Kprawn
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July 23, 2015, 06:07:53 AM |
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Why do we need to adjust the minimum fee's, to make it easier for miners to make more money? We will only create a scenario where they or anyone else with greed as a motive, will do this to force people to pay higher fee's. Let the engineers fix this, and close the loophole for people who wants to do this. Take away the ability to profit from spamming at the protocol level, and these people would not benefit from that. We are doing exactly what these people wants us to do, for them to profit more from this attack.
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July 23, 2015, 06:10:30 AM |
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Who exactly are "these people"? You seem to insinuate that they are miners. Do you have any proof?
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