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July 27, 2015, 12:13:27 PM
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I still wonder how come only one side fried and not everything.

We lose single ports in big rack mounted, ups protected switches all the time.  Same deal, path of least resistance.  It is weird.
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July 27, 2015, 10:09:51 PM
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I still wonder how come only one side fried and not everything.

We lose single ports in big rack mounted, ups protected switches all the time.  Same deal, path of least resistance.  It is weird.

Oh i see, somehow i thought it would be easier for lightning to propagate evenly instead of picking a path and shoving it through to the end.

Well i guess its better than losing all your ports on your whole rack. :S


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July 29, 2015, 05:32:59 PM
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One thing to keep in mind about most surge protectors - every time they protect vs a surge, it degrades them. Eventually they degrade to the point they are providing ZERO protection.

 Definitely applies to any surge protector using a MOV (or combo types with a MOV as the last stage, though those type last longer as the other circuitry soaks some of each surge leaving less applied to the MOV to degrade it).

 I remember there being at least one type that does NOT use a MOV and does NOT degrade, but I also remember that type being VERY EXPEN$$$$$IVE.

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July 29, 2015, 11:16:58 PM
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One thing to keep in mind about most surge protectors - every time they protect vs a surge, it degrades them. Eventually they degrade to the point they are providing ZERO protection.

 Definitely applies to any surge protector using a MOV (or combo types with a MOV as the last stage, though those type last longer as the other circuitry soaks some of each surge leaving less applied to the MOV to degrade it).

 I remember there being at least one type that does NOT use a MOV and does NOT degrade, but I also remember that type being VERY EXPEN$$$$$IVE.


The one i'm using has leds and self test unit, i assume it will tell me if its not protecting since the led for it are there.

And i never had any surge trip the surge protection which force you to manually reset the power bar.

Do micro-surges damage the "MOV" too?


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July 30, 2015, 04:08:01 AM
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this is why bitmain should have used 8 pin PCI-E connectors instead of 6 pin.

the s3 is just at the edge of 200w per board, if you have a psu with 2 ends per cord, it will be overloaded.

its important to use a PSU that has 4 separate cables per s3.
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July 30, 2015, 05:32:46 AM
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this is why bitmain should have used 8 pin PCI-E connectors instead of 6 pin.

the s3 is just at the edge of 200w per board, if you have a psu with 2 ends per cord, it will be overloaded.

its important to use a PSU that has 4 separate cables per s3.


ur right.
since my psu only have 2 pci-e, i change cpu connector (8 pin 12V) into pci-e.
its not easy to take pins out from connector, do it carefully.
there is another 12V pin at the atx connector, but its too complicated because the cable tied up as one.
drawback for this methode is unable to use psu for cpu directly.you have to reverse it before plug it to cpu.
simple way is use 4 cable psu(not 2 cable 4 connector).
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July 30, 2015, 06:38:36 AM
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this is why bitmain should have used 8 pin PCI-E connectors instead of 6 pin.

the s3 is just at the edge of 200w per board, if you have a psu with 2 ends per cord, it will be overloaded.

its important to use a PSU that has 4 separate cables per s3.


ur right.
since my psu only have 2 pci-e, i change cpu connector (8 pin 12V) into pci-e.
its not easy to take pins out from connector, do it carefully.
there is another 12V pin at the atx connector, but its too complicated because the cable tied up as one.
drawback for this methode is unable to use psu for cpu directly.you have to reverse it before plug it to cpu.
simple way is use 4 cable psu(not 2 cable 4 connector).

S3+ as long as you are not overclocking a lot 2 cables should power it.  One pcie power cable to each side.

S5 is a different story 4 power cables is needed.  But it uses more watts.

A big thing is either one dont use a cheap PSU.  If you use a cheap psu it's cords are probley not enough guage and it will get hot.
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July 30, 2015, 09:57:36 AM
Last edit: July 30, 2015, 10:16:08 AM by tokingtoking
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this is why bitmain should have used 8 pin PCI-E connectors instead of 6 pin.

the s3 is just at the edge of 200w per board, if you have a psu with 2 ends per cord, it will be overloaded.

its important to use a PSU that has 4 separate cables per s3.


ur right.
since my psu only have 2 pci-e, i change cpu connector (8 pin 12V) into pci-e.
its not easy to take pins out from connector, do it carefully.
there is another 12V pin at the atx connector, but its too complicated because the cable tied up as one.
drawback for this methode is unable to use psu for cpu directly.you have to reverse it before plug it to cpu.
simple way is use 4 cable psu(not 2 cable 4 connector).

S3+ as long as you are not overclocking a lot 2 cables should power it.  One pcie power cable to each side.

S5 is a different story 4 power cables is needed.  But it uses more watts.

A big thing is either one dont use a cheap PSU.  If you use a cheap psu it's cords are probley not enough guage and it will get hot.

that because i use "cheap" psu. it comes with 2 cable but 4 connector pcie(2x2 parallel)
first attempt cable get hot, after modification slightly warm.
sure cable gauge is the problem, psu component itself can handle the wattage(mine 650).
from april till now 3+ months work fine with 0 problem.

edit:not overclock. had oc before but it burned my psu(same psu with the last one).
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