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July 30, 2015, 04:34:17 PM
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Guaranteed return, in-case of Loss - what is this means?

In case of loss from where you will pay back all investors?


Yes, that  is really amazing, so it is ponzi without end ? :DD

Ok man just do not lie to us please. It is unreal, I though that ponzi with low deposit could work, but when you write that about it, it's obvls it is scam.

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July 31, 2015, 06:12:18 AM
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Yes, that  is really amazing, so it is ponzi without end ? :DD

Ok man just do not lie to us please. It is unreal, I though that ponzi with low deposit could work, but when you write that about it, it's obvls it is scam.

I have already answered it before, but once again for you. The profit from the operations is shared inversely to percentage of insurance of the total amount invested.



That is, if a person A invests 0.2 BTC and marks 70 % as insurance

His/her 0.14 BTC would be safe at cold wallet, and never be used for trading,

Thus enabling withdrawal of insured money in-case of loss.

Accordingly his Profit Share would reduced as per the table given in the top post
of this thread --

Profit Share = 98 % - (Guaranteed % - 20 %) * 1.3
                    = 98 % - (70 % - 20 %) * 1.3
        
                    = 33 %

That means, if 0.50 BTC of profit is made over total invested sum (from all investors) of 2 BTC.

His Profit would be = (Investment fraction) * (Profit Fraction) * (Profit Share % / 100)

                              = (0.2/2) * (0.5/2) * (0.33)

                              =  0.00825 BTC



If that person A invests 0.2 BTC and marks 30 % as insurance

His 0.06 BTC would be safe at cold wallet, and never be used for trading.

Accordingly his Profit Share would increased as per the table given in the top post
of this thread --

Profit Share = 98 % - (Guaranteed % - 20 %) * 1.3
                    = 98 % - (30 % - 20 %) * 1.3
        
                    = 85 %

That means, if 0.50 BTC of profit is made over total invested sum (from all investors) of 2 BTC.

His Profit would be = (Investment fraction) * (Profit Fraction) * (Profit Share % / 100)

                              = (0.2/2) * (0.5/2) * (0.85)

                              =  0.02125 BTC

Its all real, before you  Smiley

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July 31, 2015, 06:21:21 AM
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Yes, that  is really amazing, so it is ponzi without end ? :DD

Ok man just do not lie to us please. It is unreal, I though that ponzi with low deposit could work, but when you write that about it, it's obvls it is scam.

I have already answered it before, but once again for you. The profit from the operations is shared inversely to percentage of insurance of the total amount invested.



That is, if a person A invests 0.2 BTC and marks 70 % as insurance

His/her 0.14 BTC would be safe at cold wallet, and never be used for trading,

Thus enabling withdrawal of insured money in-case of loss.

Accordingly his Profit Share would reduced as per the table given in the top post
of this thread --

Profit Share = 98 % - (Guaranteed % - 20 %) * 1.3
                    = 98 % - (70 % - 20 %) * 1.3
        
                    = 33 %

That means If 0.50 BTC of profit is made over total invested sum (from all investors) of 2 BTC.

His Profit would be = (Investment fraction) * (Profit Fraction) * (Profit Share % / 100)

                              = (0.2/2) * (0.5/2) * (0.33)

                              =  0.00825 BTC



If that person A invests 0.2 BTC and marks 30 % as insurance

His 0.06 BTC would be safe at cold wallet, and never be used for trading.

Accordingly his Profit Share would increased as per the table given in the top post
of this thread --

Profit Share = 98 % - (Guaranteed % - 20 %) * 1.3
                    = 98 % - (30 % - 20 %) * 1.3
        
                    = 85 %

That means If 0.50 BTC of profit is made over total invested sum (from all investors) of 2 BTC.

His Profit would be = (Investment fraction) * (Profit Fraction) * (Profit Share % / 100)

                              = (0.2/2) * (0.5/2) * (0.85)

                              =  0.02125 BTC

To many calculation mate. Everyone can be lost on those. Especially when see your negative trust. Me, for example don't understand nothing about your calculations and seems to weird for me. Or at least I see that you many of the bitcoins don't use but leave as a warranty. Why must give you my money for warranty. Who assure me that that money will be back to me? So I prefer to take my bitcoin safe in my wallet. Better in my wallet as a warranty then in your wallet as your money. Don't you think so?
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July 31, 2015, 06:24:32 AM
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Same to me. No meaning to take money for investments and to leave those unused in a wallet in the name of warranty. Who taken then? Then warranty or not if the other money are lost for which serve the warranty. They will be mine whatever will be your result of your investment. So better in my wallet than in yours. Maybe you will be tempted to not give those to me at all...
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July 31, 2015, 08:12:14 AM
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Same to me. No meaning to take money for investments and to leave those unused in a wallet in the name of warranty. Who taken then? Then warranty or not if the other money are lost for which serve the warranty. They will be mine whatever will be your result of your investment. So better in my wallet than in yours.

To many calculation mate. Everyone can be lost on those.

If you read carefully, this is nothing to be lost, its very clear. The is simple risk-reward ratio. The less you risk or the more you insure, lesser your profit share.

Especially when see your negative trust. Me, for example don't understand nothing about your calculations and seems to weird for me. Or at least I see that you many of the bitcoins don't use but leave as a warranty.

Negative trust was made just for posting here, and being a newbie.


Maybe you will be tempted to not give those to me at all...

Why must give you my money for warranty. Who assure me that that money will be back to me? So I prefer to take my bitcoin safe in my wallet. Better in my wallet as a warranty then in your wallet as your money. Don't you think so?
For this reason, I wanted to use 2 of 2 or even 2 of 3  multisig address with  trusted member(s) of this forum, to hold the insured amount of the investors. This would have assured you, but till now have not found a trusted member ready for such escrow.

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July 31, 2015, 08:35:25 AM
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Especially when see your negative trust. Me, for example don't understand nothing about your calculations and seems to weird for me. Or at least I see that you many of the bitcoins don't use but leave as a warranty.

Negative trust was made just for posting here, and being a newbie.

No, you have negative trust because you promise a guaranteed profit, you have no previous credentials (comes with being a newbie) and you cant seem to explain simply how you plan to earn the coins or how your system works. The last part usually indicates that you dont understand your system well enough yourself.

Maybe you will be tempted to not give those to me at all...

Why must give you my money for warranty. Who assure me that that money will be back to me? So I prefer to take my bitcoin safe in my wallet. Better in my wallet as a warranty then in your wallet as your money. Don't you think so?
For this reason, I wanted to use 2 of 2 or even 2 of 3  multisig address with  trusted member(s) of this forum, to hold the insured amount of the investors. This would have assured you, but till now have not found a trusted member ready for such escrow.

I wonder, how is the progress in this regard? Did you contact anyone reputable[1]?

[1] https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=108716.0

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July 31, 2015, 09:16:53 AM
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I wonder, how is the progress in this regard? Did you contact anyone reputable[1]?

[1] https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=108716.0

Thanks for the list, I did contact master-P and moonbux. master-P refused, was waiting for moonbux.

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August 28, 2015, 06:35:37 AM
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I received the following PM:

!!! WARNING: This user is a newbie. If you are expecting a message from a more veteran member, then this is an imposter !!!

This is regarding to the downgrading of my trust by you

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=536759

To increase trust, I am ready to use multi-signature address, with trusted established users of this forum, for all purposes of this scheme.
Link for the scheme
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1133407

Please undo the downgrade, I am doing everything possible to increase the trust,
and contribute to this forum in positive manner.

My answer is: Contact me again in 30 days, not sooner. I will see what you did in the time given and reconsider my rating based on that.

Please review my contribution/involvement  to the bitcoin community in the last 30 days, and reconsider your ratings as promised.

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September 04, 2015, 10:30:10 PM
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I received the following PM:

!!! WARNING: This user is a newbie. If you are expecting a message from a more veteran member, then this is an imposter !!!

This is regarding to the downgrading of my trust by you

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=536759

To increase trust, I am ready to use multi-signature address, with trusted established users of this forum, for all purposes of this scheme.
Link for the scheme
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1133407

Please undo the downgrade, I am doing everything possible to increase the trust,
and contribute to this forum in positive manner.

My answer is: Contact me again in 30 days, not sooner. I will see what you did in the time given and reconsider my rating based on that.

Please review my contribution/involvement  to the bitcoin community in the last 30 days, and reconsider your ratings as promised.


Rating removed, not because of progress, but because I dont think anyone will bite and the section rating should be sufficient.

Im not really here, its just your imagination.
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September 05, 2015, 06:27:58 AM
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Rating removed, not because of progress, but because I dont think anyone will bite and the section rating should be sufficient.



Thank You  Smiley

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September 25, 2015, 03:25:42 PM
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Insured/ guaranteed part of investment is untouched at the 2 of 2 multisig address 3DreUNQM9qyTr5zBLsLb6jJW3CwecvH9v5


2 of 2 multisig
Redeem Script
522102b6231cc602740c29436eafbb6448880f4058cc3d2745c709deee31310467827721029fc6d e6afde9dae3cb9be2d7f7f554ed0ce1269f79c68ff4afa19374a8bd749a52ae

Addresses involved
coinb.in dev OutCast3k - (support@coinb.in) - 1FRUYyxUnkzy7xDZR148nJMaMSxU9xEJTD
My address - 1DX26yvjEj2fXGK1pgfGeThWycDgjqZ4sv

Micro Investment with Guaranteed Returns  1DX26yvjEj2fXGK1pgfGeThWycDgjqZ4sv
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