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"Unser Problem ist nicht ziviler Ungehorsam, unser Problem ist ziviler Gehorsam." - Howard Zinn
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September 27, 2012, 12:08:01 PM |
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I'd like to add that this poll is only about the INDUSTRY memberships. The individual membership fees are 25 BTC lifetime and 2.5 btc annual, so they are quite affordable.
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September 27, 2012, 12:09:01 PM |
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There's something you should think about, people.
Lower the industry membership rates and instead of constructive meetings you will have usagis and goats screaming at each other for hours, while in the background dank rapes a guitar and Maria threatens to call the wrath of the Mafia upon anyone not voting her way.
The rates as proposed are an idiot barrier.
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September 27, 2012, 12:17:08 PM |
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The rates as proposed are an idiot barrier.
You are welcome to make a 10,000 BTC (~120,000 USD) donation to the foundation ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
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September 27, 2012, 12:31:50 PM |
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The rates as proposed are an idiot barrier.
You are welcome to make a 10,000 BTC (~120,000 USD) donation to the foundation ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) I doubt I will ever own 10 000 btc unless the price crashes and you can get them for .0008 again ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif)
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September 27, 2012, 12:49:55 PM |
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Lower the industry membership rates and instead of constructive meetings you will have usagis and goats screaming at each other for hours, while in the background dank rapes a guitar and Maria threatens to call the wrath of the Mafia upon anyone not voting her way.
If you would live stream that, I would actually pay to see this. ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) Wouldn't it be better to have barriers in the kind of way that you actually need to have a real BTC Business in order to get in (and not mining business or just investing in BTC business), instead of money barriers? This will only let greedy moneybags in and keep the people that could really contribute out. And a "silent" membership could be very cheap. So everyone has the option to support.
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September 27, 2012, 02:58:59 PM |
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what about like this ? 2/4/8 16/32/64 128/256/512/ 1024/2048/4096
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September 27, 2012, 03:16:39 PM |
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I'd like to add that this poll is only about the INDUSTRY memberships. The individual membership fees are 25 BTC lifetime and 2.5 btc annual, so they are quite affordable.
I'd like to crosspost something that got little response in the foundation thread The industry pricing suggests that it is intended for "bitcoin industry", rather than "industry that happens to accept payment in bitcoin". Considering the structure of the organization, the distinction seems like a reasonable one to make.
where do pools fit in this? If mining is not a basic "industry" of Bitcoin - what is? pools support the bulk of miners and thus do most of the verification of the transactions on the Bitcoin network - for all the Bitcoin users 0fee pools will have 0 chance of attaining silver membership - even most pools with fees run on margins that do not allow one off payments of 500BTC I would like to be able to sign my registered business up as a corporate member, but simply cannot afford to. Graeme Tee Ozcoin pooled Mining Pty Ltd ACN: 152 509 272 so...
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September 27, 2012, 03:20:57 PM |
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I'd like to add that this poll is only about the INDUSTRY memberships. The individual membership fees are 25 BTC lifetime and 2.5 btc annual, so they are quite affordable.
I'd like to crosspost something that got little response in the foundation thread The industry pricing suggests that it is intended for "bitcoin industry", rather than "industry that happens to accept payment in bitcoin". Considering the structure of the organization, the distinction seems like a reasonable one to make.
where do pools fit in this? If mining is not a basic "industry" of Bitcoin - what is? pools support the bulk of miners and thus do most of the verification of the transactions on the Bitcoin network - for all the Bitcoin users 0fee pools will have 0 chance of attaining silver membership - even most pools with fees run on margins that do not allow one off payments of 500BTC I would like to be able to sign my registered business up as a corporate member, but simply cannot afford to. Graeme Tee Ozcoin pooled Mining Pty Ltd ACN: 152 509 272 Miners don't need representation in the foundation, other than support Gavin and make the bitcoin economy stronger. Miners can reject or accept any blocks they want.
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September 27, 2012, 05:14:56 PM |
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September 27, 2012, 05:27:32 PM |
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Miners don't need representation in the foundation, other than support Gavin and make the bitcoin economy stronger. Miners can reject or accept any blocks they want.
That is absurd. While I agree that miners essentially have a approve/veto type status, they should be engaged before it gets that far.
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September 27, 2012, 05:44:35 PM |
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I'd like to add that this poll is only about the INDUSTRY memberships. The individual membership fees are 25 BTC lifetime and 2.5 btc annual, so they are quite affordable.
I'd like to crosspost something that got little response in the foundation thread The industry pricing suggests that it is intended for "bitcoin industry", rather than "industry that happens to accept payment in bitcoin". Considering the structure of the organization, the distinction seems like a reasonable one to make.
where do pools fit in this? If mining is not a basic "industry" of Bitcoin - what is? pools support the bulk of miners and thus do most of the verification of the transactions on the Bitcoin network - for all the Bitcoin users 0fee pools will have 0 chance of attaining silver membership - even most pools with fees run on margins that do not allow one off payments of 500BTC I would like to be able to sign my registered business up as a corporate member, but simply cannot afford to. Graeme Tee Ozcoin pooled Mining Pty Ltd ACN: 152 509 272 Miners don't need representation in the foundation, other than support Gavin and make the bitcoin economy stronger. Miners can reject or accept any blocks they want. ok. I'm really missing something here. Bitcoin is based on a blockchain verified by miners without miners who verifies transactions and how does Bitcoin work? http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/industry2 a : systematic labor especially for some useful purpose or the creation of something of value would describe mining I feel. useful purpose of verifying transactions and being a way to distribute the Bitcoins into the economy
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September 27, 2012, 05:48:18 PM |
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http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/industry2 a : systematic labor especially for some useful purpose or the creation of something of value would describe mining I feel. useful purpose of verifying transactions and being a way to distribute the Bitcoins into the economy Actually no, because: http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/%20labora : expenditure of physical or mental effort especially when difficult or compulsory b (1) : human activity that provides the goods or services in an economy (2) : the services performed by workers for wages as distinguished from those rendered by entrepreneurs for profits c : the physical activities (as dilation of the cervix and contraction of the uterus) involved in giving birth; also : the period of such labor There is neither physical nor mental effort expended, there is no human activity, there are no workers performing services and while something is born, there is no physical activity there.
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September 27, 2012, 06:07:35 PM |
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There's something you should think about, people.
Lower the industry membership rates and instead of constructive meetings you will have usagis and goats screaming at each other for hours, while in the background dank rapes a guitar and Maria threatens to call the wrath of the Mafia upon anyone not voting her way.
The rates as proposed are an idiot barrier.
Agreed. The kind of businesses I have in mind could afford 120,000$+. This might have a good effect on their tax statements, too. Also, I think we're addressing "power houses" that are not into Bitcoin yet.
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September 28, 2012, 11:38:52 AM |
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US wealth distribution: 10% of US citizens own 70.9% of all US assets - 1 Top 1% own 38.1%
- 2 Top 96-99% own 21.3%
- 3 Top 90-95% own 11.5%
- - Bottom 40% of population has 0.2% of all wealth.
Compared to: The Bitcoin Foundation Membership dues- 1 Platinum: 10,000 BTC (Top 1%?)
- 2 Gold: 2,500 BTC
- 3 Silver: 500 BTC
- No denotation: 2.5 BTC (Bottom?)
- Feel free to make up your own mind.
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"Unser Problem ist nicht ziviler Ungehorsam, unser Problem ist ziviler Gehorsam." - Howard Zinn
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September 28, 2012, 11:44:52 AM |
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US wealth distribution: 10% of US citizens own 70.9% of all US assets - 1 Top 1% own 38.1%
- 2 Top 96-99% own 21.3%
- 3 Top 90-95% own 11.5%
- - Bottom 40% of population has 0.2% of all wealth.
Compared to: The Bitcoin Foundation Membership dues- 1 Platinum: 10,000 BTC (Top 1%?)
- 2 Gold: 2,500 BTC
- 3 Silver: 500 BTC
- No denotation: 2.5 BTC (Bottom?)
- Feel free to make up your own mind. you compare us wealth to foundation members? whats the point? you can compare us wealth distribution to bitcoin wealth distribution you can compare us gov (means politicians, influence, lobbyist etc) to foundation members.
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September 28, 2012, 11:51:42 AM |
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you compare us wealth to foundation members?
No! Take a closer look.
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September 28, 2012, 11:59:12 AM |
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you compare us wealth to foundation members?
No! Take a closer look. sorry... i still dont get it. please enlighten me ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
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September 29, 2012, 01:57:40 PM |
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sorry... i still dont get it. please enlighten me ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fi49.tinypic.com%2F53s5tt.jpg&t=665&c=ucZ2-rUf-p8CTQ)
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"Unser Problem ist nicht ziviler Ungehorsam, unser Problem ist ziviler Gehorsam." - Howard Zinn
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