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July 25, 2015, 02:22:51 AM
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I think there are alot of these threads, but too many are by butthurt losers. I'm not butthurt, in total, I am 5+ BTC in profit on Primedice, but I still hate it. I think a thread must be made, because many noobies are coming in thinking that Primedice is the best dice site that exists. Here are my reasons why you should NEVER EVER play on Primedice.

1. The MAX button has been proven rigged.

Yes, yes it's true. Not just an accusation. It's been proven rigged after lots of investigation. Are normal rolls rigged? No of course not. But clicking max triggers a code that makes you lose a ridiculous more percentage than normal. If you absolutely insist on playing on Primedice, NEVER click the max button.

2. The admins are corrupt.

There's alot of bad things to say about Stunna, but I will try to make it as short as possible. For one, they will never help you no matter what. All they really care about if your money, not you being happy. They simply cannot manage a website. There is constantly problems and waiting and more problems, without any compensation. Again, they don't care about you being happy. They make tens of BTC a day, hundreds some days, but cannot afford giving out more than 0.001/user in giveaways. By depositing to Primedice, consider your deposit a gift to Stunna.

3. Mods are corrupt.

"Rolling is only half of the fun" they say. On Primedice, rolling is all the fun. The chat is complete garbage. Stunna is never active, meaning he has no idea who to make mod. There have been beggars (steveds, Randall) made mod, scammers (Nil), idiots who are just old users, but don't know how to moderate (TheFrog, LabKitty), and most of all, good mods who are never, ever on chat (Zoltan, Serlite, hui). If you ever choose to open the chat, expect begging, scamming, loan requests, spam, and the worst.

4. Rolls are slow.

This has been a big one lately. Rolls take from 3x up to 10x longer than competing sites. This is due to the large number of bets made per second. It causes server lag, yet admins don't care. There have been numerous requests asking for the servers to be upgraded, but Stunna doesn't care. Especially during autobet is this extremely annoying.

5. Withdrawals aren't always instant.

About 20% of withdrawals aren't instant. There is a glitch in the withdrawal system that doesn't give you your withdrawal right away. It puts a fake tx id in the Transaction Log. You must wait 1 hour+ for your withdrawal to come.

6. Support has been voted the WORST on the Internet.

No point in spamming their bitcointalk thread, they won't respond here either! Primedice was voted to have one of the worst support system's on the entire web! Not only should you wait normally around a week for a reply, but they don't fix anything! If you accidentally deposited to your old account, expect 4-5 exchanges of emails (around a month) to get your account back. People call support a complete JOKE, but again, Stunna doesn't care! He's still making money. If anything goes wrong, don't waste your time and just give up! I'd rather call up Indian support who knows 0% English than deal with Primedice.

Got any other reasons? If this isn't enough, what is? Will you have to hear that Primedice is scamming so you don't play? No, just choose ANY other website to play on. Here is my personal recommendation for alternatives:

http://bitdice.me
http://prcdice.eu
http://dustdice.com
http://safedice.com

Try those instead of Primedice! Feel free to leave comments below about how shitty Primedice has been to you!
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July 25, 2015, 02:24:36 AM
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1. The MAX button has been proven rigged.

So, where is the proof? How exactly are they cheating users if everything is provably fair? Would love to hear more about this.
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July 25, 2015, 02:28:04 AM
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1. The MAX button has been proven rigged.

So, where is the proof? If everything is provably fair, how exactly are they cheating users? Would love to hear more about this, please explain.

I just did a simple test on it.
After clicking the max button, neither my server seed hash nor client seed have been changed. The nonce is correctly increased by one.
I have also checked that the server seed revealed does match with the hash given prior to the bet. The numbers rolled also matches with the ones I computed using the code on https://primedice.com/verify

OP, proof please?

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July 25, 2015, 02:35:26 AM
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accusation without any proof is completely rubbish. it might be rigged, no one knows, unless someone bring solid proof. as for now gamble what you can afford to lose.
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July 25, 2015, 02:40:07 AM
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accusation without any proof is completely rubbish.

Agree.

it might be rigged, no one knows, unless someone bring solid proof.

The good thing about provably fair is that if a site is rigged, you will know immediately when you verify your bets.


as for now gamble what you can afford to lose.

This holds for all types of gambling, bitcoin or not, provably fair or not.

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July 25, 2015, 02:40:25 AM
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6. Support has been excellent for a very long time.

I don't play there anymore since I stopped playing dice, but the support was great and they answered either "really fast" or later the same day.

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OP is a first day newbie, you must of had tons of experience on Bitcoin sites...



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July 25, 2015, 02:48:21 AM
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6. Support has been excellent for a very long time.

I don't play there anymore since I stopped playing dice, but the support was great and they answered either "really fast" or later the same day.

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OP is a first day newbie, you must of had tons of experience on Bitcoin sites...




When did you last play? 2003?
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July 25, 2015, 02:57:02 AM
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6. Support has been excellent for a very long time.

I don't play there anymore since I stopped playing dice, but the support was great and they answered either "really fast" or later the same day.

Edit:
OP is a first day newbie, you must of had tons of experience on Bitcoin sites...




When did you last play? 2003?

How much of that profit did you lose on a max bet? Go all in thinking that 90%+ chance wouldn't lose? Roll Eyes
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July 25, 2015, 03:00:09 AM
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6. Support has been excellent for a very long time.

I don't play there anymore since I stopped playing dice, but the support was great and they answered either "really fast" or later the same day.

Edit:
OP is a first day newbie, you must of had tons of experience on Bitcoin sites...




When did you last play? 2003?

How much of that profit did you lose on a max bet? Go all in thinking that 90%+ chance wouldn't lose? Roll Eyes

I'm glad I found this out earlier before winning 5 BTC. But I've lost amounts around ~0.1. The code raises the loss percentage based on how big the amount you are betting also.

Don't get the idea that I'm a kiddie calling the whole site rigged. Just some sneaky code in the max button actions.
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July 25, 2015, 03:08:11 AM
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Wow.   That's a very long post with 0 proof of any of the accusations that you made.   You could have cut it in half and actually added a link to your "proof" that the max button is rigged.   Last I checked, PD was probably fair, so to make an accusation of that weight you should probably post evidence.   

All the other stuff is secondary, but it would have helped if you cited specific examples. 

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July 25, 2015, 03:13:28 AM
Last edit: July 25, 2015, 03:52:02 AM by Zaih
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You're funny aren't you. Nice FUD. Go prove they rigged their bets or did any of the above - It's all possible with the provably fair system and simple evidence.

I must say support has been slow though.
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July 25, 2015, 03:32:06 AM
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6. Support has been excellent for a very long time.

I don't play there anymore since I stopped playing dice, but the support was great and they answered either "really fast" or later the same day.

Edit:
OP is a first day newbie, you must of had tons of experience on Bitcoin sites...




When did you last play? 2003?

How much of that profit did you lose on a max bet? Go all in thinking that 90%+ chance wouldn't lose? Roll Eyes

I'm glad I found this out earlier before winning 5 BTC. But I've lost amounts around ~0.1. The code raises the loss percentage based on how big the amount you are betting also.

Don't get the idea that I'm a kiddie calling the whole site rigged. Just some sneaky code in the max button actions.

For the bold part, how exactly does PD do that?
Do you notice your number not generated using the correct algorithm or do you notice your bet settling as a loss when the number is within the winning range?
If you do, please describe it with details such as bet ID and seed pairs.
If you don't, please explain how it is "proven rigged".

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July 25, 2015, 03:39:48 AM
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I think there are alot of these threads, but too many are by butthurt losers. I'm not butthurt, in total, I am 5+ BTC in profit on Primedice, but I still hate it. I think a thread must be made, because many noobies are coming in thinking that Primedice is the best dice site that exists. Here are my reasons why you should NEVER EVER play on Primedice.

1. The MAX button has been proven rigged.

Yes, yes it's true. Not just an accusation. It's been proven rigged after lots of investigation. Are normal rolls rigged? No of course not. But clicking max triggers a code that makes you lose a ridiculous more percentage than normal. If you absolutely insist on playing on Primedice, NEVER click the max button.

2. The admins are corrupt.

There's alot of bad things to say about Stunna, but I will try to make it as short as possible. For one, they will never help you no matter what. All they really care about if your money, not you being happy. They simply cannot manage a website. There is constantly problems and waiting and more problems, without any compensation. Again, they don't care about you being happy. They make tens of BTC a day, hundreds some days, but cannot afford giving out more than 0.001/user in giveaways. By depositing to Primedice, consider your deposit a gift to Stunna.

3. Mods are corrupt.

"Rolling is only half of the fun" they say. On Primedice, rolling is all the fun. The chat is complete garbage. Stunna is never active, meaning he has no idea who to make mod. There have been beggars (steveds, Randall) made mod, scammers (Nil), idiots who are just old users, but don't know how to moderate (TheFrog, LabKitty), and most of all, good mods who are never, ever on chat (Zoltan, Serlite, hui). If you ever choose to open the chat, expect begging, scamming, loan requests, spam, and the worst.

4. Rolls are slow.

This has been a big one lately. Rolls take from 3x up to 10x longer than competing sites. This is due to the large number of bets made per second. It causes server lag, yet admins don't care. There have been numerous requests asking for the servers to be upgraded, but Stunna doesn't care. Especially during autobet is this extremely annoying.

5. Withdrawals aren't always instant.

About 20% of withdrawals aren't instant. There is a glitch in the withdrawal system that doesn't give you your withdrawal right away. It puts a fake tx id in the Transaction Log. You must wait 1 hour+ for your withdrawal to come.

6. Support has been voted the WORST on the Internet.

No point in spamming their bitcointalk thread, they won't respond here either! Primedice was voted to have one of the worst support system's on the entire web! Not only should you wait normally around a week for a reply, but they don't fix anything! If you accidentally deposited to your old account, expect 4-5 exchanges of emails (around a month) to get your account back. People call support a complete JOKE, but again, Stunna doesn't care! He's still making money. If anything goes wrong, don't waste your time and just give up! I'd rather call up Indian support who knows 0% English than deal with Primedice.

Got any other reasons? If this isn't enough, what is? Will you have to hear that Primedice is scamming so you don't play? No, just choose ANY other website to play on. Here is my personal recommendation for alternatives:

http://bitdice.me
http://prcdice.eu
http://dustdice.com
http://safedice.com

Try those instead of Primedice! Feel free to leave comments below about how shitty Primedice has been to you!

So you made an effort to write all of these without any proofs?
I guess you lose a lot on PD and now you're broke,  blaming PD on all of your loss.
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July 25, 2015, 03:55:02 AM
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The ONLY one I agree with is #4 since rolls are slower than most sites. However, the other points are BS until proof is provided considering Provably Fair is EXTREMELY hard, if not hard, impossible to try to "bend rules" for....
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July 25, 2015, 04:40:11 AM
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1. The MAX button has been proven rigged.

I just did a simple test on it.
After clicking the max button, neither my server seed hash nor client seed have been changed. The nonce is correctly increased by one.
I have also checked that the server seed revealed does match with the hash given prior to the bet. The numbers rolled also matches with the ones I computed using the code on https://primedice.com/verify

OP, proof please?

2. The admins are corrupt.

Primedice has been running successfully from a long period of time, I think that tells that they can manage a site very efficiently and I don't know about your experience but in mine I have find Stunna to be very helpful.

Also just a week back or so they did a 0.005 BTC giveaway and couple of months before that 2 giveaways of 0.01 to per person and without any conditions, you can play or withdraw. I think that's pretty generous.

3. Mods are corrupt.

PD is most famous BTC Dice site, it is visited by 1000s of people from around the world, which includes trolls, beggars, scammers etc. Mods do try to mute them as much they can but they can't be active 24/7.

4. Rolls are slow.

Maybe. But that again says that the site is too busy and visited by so many players.

5. Withdrawals aren't always instant.

Never had any late withdrawals but even if they're late sometimes, you can be damn sure that you'll get them eventually.

6. Support has been voted the WORST on the Internet.

Support is slow and it is discussed in their thread as well but they are careful and don't want to hire any personnel which might put user's accounts in danger.

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July 25, 2015, 04:54:42 AM
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seems like op's opinion going to take down primedice.
and i think op just another primedice rival.
this is just an opinion.
attacking trusted website, trusted person around here without any valid proof ? go home child.

 
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July 25, 2015, 05:02:13 AM
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I think there are alot of these threads, but too many are by butthurt losers. I'm not butthurt, in total, I am 5+ BTC in profit on Primedice, but I still hate it. I think a thread must be made, because many noobies are coming in thinking that Primedice is the best dice site that exists. Here are my reasons why you should NEVER EVER play on Primedice.

1. The MAX button has been proven rigged.

Yes, yes it's true. Not just an accusation. It's been proven rigged after lots of investigation. Are normal rolls rigged? No of course not. But clicking max triggers a code that makes you lose a ridiculous more percentage than normal. If you absolutely insist on playing on Primedice, NEVER click the max button.

Sincerely hoping this one is true. Grin

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July 25, 2015, 05:04:38 AM
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OP, focus your attention on these casinos that are truly rigged:

bitcasino.io
4grinz.com
vegascasino.io
mbitcasino.com

They all use the coingaming.io platform and all of them besides vegascasino.io have topics here. primedice is provably fair and can be proven. i do not even play dice sites and i know that. go after the true scammers.

In my opinion.
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July 25, 2015, 05:18:32 AM
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Do you have any proof that your bets will be rigged if you bet using the max button.
So far, I have not seen any proof that Primedice is rigged although there are lots of accusation.

     

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July 25, 2015, 05:28:07 AM
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Do you have any proof that your bets will be rigged if you bet using the max button.
So far, I have not seen any proof that Primedice is rigged although there are lots of accusation.
It is quite possible, but really hard to prove and need a lot of testing, as there are not many people playing using max button.
It is the same debate as "I lost 10 times in a row! Primedice must be rigged!" - but these kind of topics are usually created by angry gamblers who lost their coins.
With max button it might be the same.
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