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November 04, 2015, 03:16:27 AM |
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Does anyone have any experience using 1broker? Just wondering with the price increase of btc right now is it worth it to invest or is it better just to hold my btc until it tops out to invest?
No idea, but ask favdesu: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=130350He suggested it to me. |
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notlist3d
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November 04, 2015, 04:10:52 AM |
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Well I just checked satoshidice:
3613.54081797 BTC liquid cash = 1.3 MILLION $
They can run away with it any second now, yet they havent in the past 3 years (and back in 2013 that was worth much more).
So I think that is just paranoia, I think Satoshidice is very safe, and trustworthy.
Chances are will they? No they are running profitable... so they do not want to ruin that. It is a true money making venture. I like a little more regulation then what gambling sites provide. But not everyone wants that so it all depends on your risk your willing to do on investments. I dont think they can get away with stoling that much. Your little regulation wont help at all in that case. Either they steal it and they get away with it (hard to believe) or they get caught. Either way your regulation wont help at all, only the police after they get caught if they do it. So your regulation has no benefits, but it can definitely scare away many gamblers as their privacy would be hurt. No i dont think any regulation is needed here. This article shows why I personally would not be investing in a casino - http://www.coindesk.com/bitcoin-poker-site-operator-to-pay-25000-fine/Just dodging regulation to run the site if done wrong you get in big trouble. It's not a small deal operating a casino if you are operating in a place with laws. Most try to go to places to dodge these laws on hosting. |
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RealBitcoin (OP)
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November 04, 2015, 04:25:16 AM |
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This article shows why I personally would not be investing in a casino - http://www.coindesk.com/bitcoin-poker-site-operator-to-pay-25000-fine/Just dodging regulation to run the site if done wrong you get in big trouble. It's not a small deal operating a casino if you are operating in a place with laws. Most try to go to places to dodge these laws on hosting. Satoshidice doesnt allow US based gamblers, and to my knowledge there arent any strict gambling laws elsewhere, especially not where I live. But that article you put out just proves the opposite. That guy got fined because the big oligarch casinos dont like competition and they used regulation to kick them out. So with your example you just proved how corrupt regulation is and how evil political tool can it be ( ban of BTC in Taiwan rings a bell?) You have to understand this regulation =/= bigger transparency regulation = controlled by corrupt entities |
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November 04, 2015, 04:29:06 AM |
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This article shows why I personally would not be investing in a casino - http://www.coindesk.com/bitcoin-poker-site-operator-to-pay-25000-fine/Just dodging regulation to run the site if done wrong you get in big trouble. It's not a small deal operating a casino if you are operating in a place with laws. Most try to go to places to dodge these laws on hosting. Satoshidice doesnt allow US based gamblers, and to my knowledge there arent any strict gambling laws elsewhere, especially not where I live. But that article you put out just proves the opposite. That guy got fined because the big oligarch casinos dont like competition and they used regulation to kick them out. So with your example you just proved how corrupt regulation is and how evil political tool can it be ( ban of BTC in Taiwan rings a bell?) You know some people are using VPN's and Proxy's to get through to satoshidice. But blocking US I would agree gives them better chance of not being taken down. How are the laws in Europe and China on gambling sites online? Just curious if anyone lives there and knows if legal/illegal. What country are you in realbitcoin is I can ask? I do admit I am more familiar with us, many other countries I don't know as well I am not a lawyer. |
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November 04, 2015, 04:35:00 AM |
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You know some people are using VPN's and Proxy's to get through to satoshidice. But blocking US I would agree gives them better chance of not being taken down.
How are the laws in Europe and China on gambling sites online? Just curious if anyone lives there and knows if legal/illegal.
What country are you in realbitcoin is I can ask? I do admit I am more familiar with us, many other countries I don't know as well I am not a lawyer.
If they are using proxy then to my knowledge (I`m not a lawyer) they are not liable, because that guy broke their TOS. In europe its much lighter regulation, and where I live its practically nonexistent, well except the KYC policies, but nothing like fixed payout % and bullshit like that. And I really find stupid these extra regulations, because for once they are just a burden, and for second, they create a vehicle for corruption and selective enforcement. Who is regulating the regulator of the regulator? You get the point. Less regulation = less corruption. |
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November 04, 2015, 06:14:35 AM |
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Have had decent luck using peerbet the couple of times I've tried it.
Regarding cex.io mining contracts, not sure but you might want to update OP (they have been disabled for months, and are running on 2W/GH gear so likely to be for foreseeable future as it looks like BTC has to be well above $600/coin before they will be profitable again).
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November 12, 2015, 09:38:41 AM |
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This article shows why I personally would not be investing in a casino - http://www.coindesk.com/bitcoin-poker-site-operator-to-pay-25000-fine/Just dodging regulation to run the site if done wrong you get in big trouble. It's not a small deal operating a casino if you are operating in a place with laws. Most try to go to places to dodge these laws on hosting. Satoshidice doesnt allow US based gamblers, and to my knowledge there arent any strict gambling laws elsewhere, especially not where I live. But that article you put out just proves the opposite. That guy got fined because the big oligarch casinos dont like competition and they used regulation to kick them out. So with your example you just proved how corrupt regulation is and how evil political tool can it be ( ban of BTC in Taiwan rings a bell?) You have to understand this regulation =/= bigger transparency regulation = controlled by corrupt entities Hopefully, we have FCA regulated binary options bitcoin brokers in UK and in the whole Europe trough MifiD regulation, that is not the case in the US... |
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November 15, 2015, 11:45:20 AM |
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Good list, but does they are really trustable ?
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RealBitcoin (OP)
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November 15, 2015, 12:05:08 PM |
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Good list, but does they are really trustable ?
The others that suggested them to me trust them. I have gambled at satoshidice.com and they are good. I havent invested in it, but their gambling service is really good. |
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November 17, 2015, 06:28:43 PM |
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Good list, but does they are really trustable ?
The others that suggested them to me trust them. I have gambled at satoshidice.com and they are good. I havent invested in it, but their gambling service is really good. Investment at satoshidice.com is going strong. We have an investor that made 231.12130634 in profit after commission paid. We also have a verifiable cold storage and in business since 2012. |
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RealBitcoin (OP)
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November 17, 2015, 07:05:43 PM |
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Good list, but does they are really trustable ?
The others that suggested them to me trust them. I have gambled at satoshidice.com and they are good. I havent invested in it, but their gambling service is really good. Investment at satoshidice.com is going strong. We have an investor that made 231.12130634 in profit after commission paid. We also have a verifiable cold storage and in business since 2012. Yes I`m fascinated by it, I have read past articles mentioning it, and it was a big hit in 2011, as half of bitcoin was literally Satoshidice as most transactions was processed there by gamblers. It is still one of the biggest gambling sites and I see that a new slot machine was added, so that can make gamblers more interested in it. It is really nice to see big and succesful businesses that give meaning to Bitcoin, good luck with it! |
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November 17, 2015, 11:15:28 PM |
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This article shows why I personally would not be investing in a casino - http://www.coindesk.com/bitcoin-poker-site-operator-to-pay-25000-fine/Just dodging regulation to run the site if done wrong you get in big trouble. It's not a small deal operating a casino if you are operating in a place with laws. Most try to go to places to dodge these laws on hosting. Satoshidice doesnt allow US based gamblers, and to my knowledge there arent any strict gambling laws elsewhere, especially not where I live. But that article you put out just proves the opposite. That guy got fined because the big oligarch casinos dont like competition and they used regulation to kick them out. So with your example you just proved how corrupt regulation is and how evil political tool can it be ( ban of BTC in Taiwan rings a bell?) You have to understand this regulation =/= bigger transparency regulation = controlled by corrupt entities This is the reason I think bitcoin will struggle the most in developed nations. Not to get off topic though this is 100% true. Las Vegas Companies are the ones that fight these things the hardest because they're usually the ones with the most to loose. Bitcoin gambling sites aren't the first ones to have to deal with this. |
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November 17, 2015, 11:58:08 PM |
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This article shows why I personally would not be investing in a casino - http://www.coindesk.com/bitcoin-poker-site-operator-to-pay-25000-fine/Just dodging regulation to run the site if done wrong you get in big trouble. It's not a small deal operating a casino if you are operating in a place with laws. Most try to go to places to dodge these laws on hosting. Satoshidice doesnt allow US based gamblers, and to my knowledge there arent any strict gambling laws elsewhere, especially not where I live. But that article you put out just proves the opposite. That guy got fined because the big oligarch casinos dont like competition and they used regulation to kick them out. So with your example you just proved how corrupt regulation is and how evil political tool can it be ( ban of BTC in Taiwan rings a bell?) You have to understand this regulation =/= bigger transparency regulation = controlled by corrupt entities This is the reason I think bitcoin will struggle the most in developed nations. Not to get off topic though this is 100% true. Las Vegas Companies are the ones that fight these things the hardest because they're usually the ones with the most to loose. Bitcoin gambling sites aren't the first ones to have to deal with this. I don't think bitcoin will struggle as far as value just because of gambling. As far as the big casinos they actually are amazing they not only have Vegas/Reno some are going to indian reservations and starting casinos with some big names behind it. There are lots of "legit" gambling if that is your thing. I think bitcoin is more of a currency... so I think it's not going to be effected unless BTC was regulated due to gaming. As of now it's just the gaming site/operater who is being regulated. And really blocking US IP's is not going to stop the true gamblers on btc. |
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RealBitcoin (OP)
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November 18, 2015, 12:02:45 PM |
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Good list, this list is 100% legit  But, i think you should add warning about risks investing to these website. Most of these kinds of investment are risky, especially invest in casino or lending. Alright , done. People should always invest with caution. |
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November 19, 2015, 04:07:11 PM |
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Thanks for the list, i will check those websites.
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November 26, 2015, 10:53:45 AM |
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i think investment of bitcoins is not a good thinking .
many times happened that a trustable looking site
became a worthless and useless by stoping thier job of investment thats results into loss of all of your btc instead of some profit
if i was at your place then i will purchase a full member account for 0.1btc instead of investment.
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November 26, 2015, 10:56:28 AM |
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i think investment of bitcoins is not a good thinking .
many times happened that a trustable looking site
became a worthless and useless by stoping thier job of investment thats results into loss of all of your btc instead of some profit
if i was at your place then i will purchase a full member account for 0.1btc instead of investment.
For your info, investing bitcoin is not always investing it in a website. Investing btc's is like investing money. BTC to Business , BTC to Trades and etc. And for buying an account here with your btc, still it can consider an investment. |
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JITENDERPAR3
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November 26, 2015, 11:01:50 AM |
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you are right my friend . you can earn a good amount of bitcoins through investment there are many sites that gives a valuable amount of btc profit for investment but sometimes investment causes a big loss . that depends upon the profit of that site .
i had also lost my 0.3btc instead of profit due to stopping of investment site.
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November 26, 2015, 11:19:19 AM |
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you are right my friend . you can earn a good amount of bitcoins through investment there are many sites that gives a valuable amount of btc profit for investment but sometimes investment causes a big loss . that depends upon the profit of that site .
i had also lost my 0.3btc instead of profit due to stopping of investment site.
Sad to hear that. Well step up and make another journey to your btc earnings. Forget investing in those "promising" site that will gave you high returns. Work for it rather than hoping for an automatic returns. There are lots of worth to try method out there. |
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RealBitcoin (OP)
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November 26, 2015, 11:44:11 AM |
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you are right my friend . you can earn a good amount of bitcoins through investment there are many sites that gives a valuable amount of btc profit for investment but sometimes investment causes a big loss . that depends upon the profit of that site .
i had also lost my 0.3btc instead of profit due to stopping of investment site.
You were scammed. Its not because the site closed, but because the guys run away with the bitcoins. You should open a scam report about it. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=83.0 |
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