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July 30, 2015, 07:08:17 PM
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Hello, I really enjoy playing poker and after seeing so many rooms "ban" players from some countries etc I decided to try btc poker, the problem is that there aren't many players out there yet. I'm playing on betcoing.ag for now, and it's good compared to the others I tried, but I still can't play in a lot of tables at the same time, and to do that I have to enter in tables with different blinds which can "ruin" a session, and even like that, depending on the time of the day, sometimes I can't play even at 3 tables on the same time.

So my question is:

Why don't btc poker rooms create a poker network like Ipoker?

They would still have their clients and separate accounts etc, but players would all play on the same network. That would really help the btc poker community and it would be good for casinos to, because more players would probably make the change, like I'm trying to do.

I mean if that works for big poker rooms, why can't work for btc poker? I really don't get it.

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July 30, 2015, 07:11:58 PM
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Most likely they do not want to deal with bitcoin or a skin would have been made already. Must be protecting what they have from all being taken out in a sweep the rug movement.

Things keep going this rate poker online will die a slow death.
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July 30, 2015, 07:17:39 PM
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Most likely they do not want to deal with bitcoin or a skin would have been made already. Must be protecting what they have from all being taken out in a sweep the rug movement.

Things keep going this rate poker online will die a slow death.

I'm sorry what are you saying?
I was not suggesting that Ipoker would "adopt" btc poker rooms. I don't even think that works that way. I was saying that betcoing.ag, swc, luckyflop, etc etc, and all those small btc poker rooms could create a common poker network like Ipoker, so all the few players they have would then become a "decent" number of players, and we would all win with that.

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July 30, 2015, 07:19:34 PM
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How would all the different software be able to connect to 1 network?  Is there a way that 2 different clients can connect to 1 network?
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July 30, 2015, 07:20:14 PM
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I see,thought you meant join the Ipoker network.
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July 30, 2015, 07:24:50 PM
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How would all the different software be able to connect to 1 network?  Is there a way that 2 different clients can connect to 1 network?

Clients would have to be altered. Every room in Ipoker has the same client, although they have different skins so the houses are well identified.
It's still different rooms on the same network, so they only had to unite to create the network and the new client.

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July 30, 2015, 07:36:33 PM
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it would be cool if it were a decentralized network to play poker without restrictions
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July 30, 2015, 08:03:46 PM
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How would all the different software be able to connect to 1 network?  Is there a way that 2 different clients can connect to 1 network?

Clients would have to be altered. Every room in Ipoker has the same client, although they have different skins so the houses are well identified.
It's still different rooms on the same network, so they only had to unite to create the network and the new client.

This looks like a good idea but there may be a few problems. Wouldn't this need each site to trust the network maintaining the games? That would have to be very well verified to make sure no scams go on. And if a flaw in the software is found it will affect everyone connected. Then, many new gambling sites turn out to be scams and being associated with one could kill the deal. And also some larger sites may not want to do this to limit how many players they would lose to smaller sites. Smaller sites may not want to do this to avoid having to rewrite code that they just bought from someone else.
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July 30, 2015, 08:07:18 PM
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Definitely a good idea but who would be the company managing all the accounts and how would the rake distribution happen ?
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July 30, 2015, 08:17:33 PM
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Definitely a good idea but who would be the company managing all the accounts and how would the rake distribution happen ?

Don't know how Ipoker does it but maybe distribute the rake based on which sites the players in that table are coming from. For example if half are coming from one site, that site receives half the rake, etc. Or if each site contributed differently to starting or maintaining the shared network, divide it with that in mind.
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July 30, 2015, 08:19:36 PM
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Definitely a good idea but who would be the company managing all the accounts and how would the rake distribution happen ?

Don't know how Ipoker does it but maybe distribute the rake based on which sites the players in that table are coming from. For example if half are coming from one site, that site receives half the rake, etc. Or if each site contributed differently to starting or maintaining the shared network, divide it with that in mind.

Yeah probably that would work. Still seems like a really hard thing to implement and this kind of thing would only work for Cash games. Most of the tournaments have different structures on different sites. They would not be able to accomodate all sites for that.
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July 30, 2015, 08:54:23 PM
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How would all the different software be able to connect to 1 network?  Is there a way that 2 different clients can connect to 1 network?

Clients would have to be altered. Every room in Ipoker has the same client, although they have different skins so the houses are well identified.
It's still different rooms on the same network, so they only had to unite to create the network and the new client.

This looks like a good idea but there may be a few problems. Wouldn't this need each site to trust the network maintaining the games? That would have to be very well verified to make sure no scams go on. And if a flaw in the software is found it will affect everyone connected. Then, many new gambling sites turn out to be scams and being associated with one could kill the deal. And also some larger sites may not want to do this to limit how many players they would lose to smaller sites. Smaller sites may not want to do this to avoid having to rewrite code that they just bought from someone else.

I don't know how Ipoker does it, but I can't really see a problem here for anyone. I think the Ipoker network was probably created to solve exactly the problem of a lot of poker houses not having enough players to compete with bit networks like pokerstars, fultilt, etc. I mean btc poker is nothing compare to any of those networks, so the "greedy" way of thinking will do nothing for them. None of the btc poker rooms is a big room, they are all small and can't really compete with Ipoker, pokerstars etc, because of that, so they all have to win if they keep they accounts separate, and just unite their poker networks.

There shouldn't be a trust issue because they will all have something to win because they would just become more attractive to poker players.

I have no idea how the rake works etc in Ipoker, but I'm sure they could just copy the model. I don't see any room complaining about being in the poker network, so I'm sure it works.

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July 30, 2015, 09:00:19 PM
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The problem is most active players are active right across the sites and I would suspect the player field would actually dwindle at first if such a idea was to proceed.

Need to make in roads at 2p2 and due to all the Seals scandals its a hard slog trying to get people to try it out.

Besides this being the early days of bitcoin poker,they all want to eat the competition than work with it.
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July 30, 2015, 09:09:11 PM
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The problem is most active players are active right across the sites and I would suspect the player field would actually dwindle at first if such a idea was to proceed.

Need to make in roads at 2p2 and due to all the Seals scandals its a hard slog trying to get people to try it out.

Besides this being the early days of bitcoin poker,they all want to eat the competition than work with it.

Everyone want's to eat the competition, the problem is that in poker they are all small.
And I'm not saying all the sites should join, but the big ones that are trusted for now could think about it, so they would start becoming a real alternative to the other poker rooms.

Cash tables and tournaments are pretty empty. I mean in the other rooms I can observe tables and see where I want to play, and the limit for the amount of tables I can play at the same time is based on how many action I can take lol. In btc poker rooms I am happy If I see players at the table.

They can't really be serious and think they want to eat the competition, they must think if they really want to become an alternative to poker.

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July 30, 2015, 09:27:41 PM
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Only way to grow bitcoin is to have the community back some good players that can endorse bitcoin at every camera interview and wear swag promoting it.

It is not just Countries blocking players but the way poker looks to the average person these days.
Lot of people have a reference for a kid that did well,moved to vegas and is now blowing donkey dick or addicted to crack.
Add in the idiots that make poker unfun to play by berating players any time they do something different or dumb.
Poker lacks faces as well to push the product,we had Dwan and Isldur and now both are awol.
Factor in cheating scandals and bitcoin getting the poker ban treatment and it explains the scene.

The idea that these sites want to hold hands is so off the chart mad I will just let some one else tackle it.
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July 30, 2015, 09:39:51 PM
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I don't know, maybe poker needs some physical face to face to add more adrenaline to the game itself.
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July 30, 2015, 10:18:03 PM
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This wouldn't work at all, most sites won't agree to be a part of this and it will fail, the poker cut of the house isn't that much in the first place and they wouldn't want it to be distributed. The future of BTC Poker is bright but all the players who are interested in playing Poker and not just the freerolls will probably choose 1-2 sites which gets more crowd and they will stick to them.

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July 31, 2015, 12:16:48 AM
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I think that the crypto community just isn't that big yet.  But eventually it will grow, and it may become more popular for gambling online.  I certainly think that it has many advantages to fiat. 

So tell your friends about cyrpto.  Wear a bumper sticker, etc Smiley.
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July 31, 2015, 12:29:44 AM
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I think that the crypto community just isn't that big yet.  But eventually it will grow, and it may become more popular for gambling online.  I certainly think that it has many advantages to fiat. 

So tell your friends about cyrpto.  Wear a bumper sticker, etc Smiley.

yeah exactly , I think this is the main problem cause there is a small percentage of people who already know and trust crypto currencies and not all of them like to play poker or to gamble
if we can advertise bitcoin as possible I'm sure players will turn to BTC , I mean everyone would like to have quick depos and withdrawals
and then we may start a big site like pokerstars only for btc
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July 31, 2015, 08:51:12 AM
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How would all the different software be able to connect to 1 network?  Is there a way that 2 different clients can connect to 1 network?

that's mean 2 site can connect to 1 network, what bitcoin poker site offer service like that

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