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shamoons
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September 29, 2012, 03:04:26 PM |
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which is better?
BTCFPGA - because they have reasonable delivery times
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solareclipse64236 (OP)
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September 29, 2012, 03:14:42 PM |
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btcfpga does not have a terahash machine, that is the only problem, but in terms of price they are the best.
is there any other brand that is better?
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September 29, 2012, 03:15:58 PM |
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Yes, at least one (not including our own project yet because of longer delivery time).
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solareclipse64236 (OP)
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September 29, 2012, 03:31:19 PM |
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would you like to name the OTHER one or what?
also can I ask where you people are sourcing these custom designed boards?
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kgonepostl
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September 29, 2012, 04:51:26 PM |
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I bought from butterfly labs on the hope that they'll have all pre-orders out by Christmas.
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Monkey1
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September 29, 2012, 07:41:44 PM |
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If you are talking ASIC then as no-one has delivered anything yet, it is a little hard to say!
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solareclipse64236 (OP)
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September 29, 2012, 10:56:43 PM |
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clearly i am only talking about one thing
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September 30, 2012, 02:33:18 AM |
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I think it's a no brainer... I am going to place my ASIC order with BTCFPGA. - Tom is very transparent when it comes to his business and the upcoming ASIC.
- He is around to answer questions and for product support daily.
- But the main reason of why this is a no brainer, BTCFPGA out produces BFL on a $/gH basis, and that to me is a VERY big deal!
I am really glad I didn't order from BFL!
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solareclipse64236 (OP)
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September 30, 2012, 02:34:23 AM |
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great post!
but nothing beats the jalapeno or the single right now in gigahash per second
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September 30, 2012, 03:17:11 AM |
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would you like to name the OTHER one or what? Look for chinese "Avalon" system on this forum.
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September 30, 2012, 03:27:07 AM |
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great post!
but nothing beats the jalapeno or the single right now in gigahash per second
Actually, BTCFPGA made an announcement yesterday that they will be selling a 54Gh unit for $1060. See the announcement here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=79637.msg1229735#msg1229735Jalepeno gH/$: 0.023489932885906 Single Gh/$: 0.0307929176289453 MiniRig Gh/$: 0.0334459346466437 btcFPGA Gh/$: 0.0504672897196262
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solareclipse64236 (OP)
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September 30, 2012, 01:15:21 PM |
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can you learn how to divide properly?
if 1 gigahash = 0.0234 cents, then you're literally fakking saying that the jalapeno only costs 0.0234 x 4.5 gigahash = $0.1053 cents
what you're looking for is megahash per second
so 1 jalapeno = 4.5 gigahash or 4,500 megahash divided by 163(unit + shipping). 163/4500 = $0.036 cents per megahash
single = 60 gigahash or 60,000 megahash divided by 1333 = $0.022 cents per megahash
minirig = 1.5 terahash/1,500 gigahash/1,500,000 megahash divided by 29,899 = $0.019 cents
NOW FOR BTCFPGA's 54 gigahash machine, $1,100 w/ s/h 54 g or 54,000 megahash divdided by 1,100 = $0.020 cents
to match the minirig, you would have to buy 28 units of the above.
28 units x 54 gigahash = 1.512 terahash = $29,932 to 30k even
PLUS you would have to buy several multiple USB hubs to connect 28 computers to 1 computer, probably another 3-5 k right there.
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September 30, 2012, 01:46:01 PM Last edit: September 30, 2012, 02:16:31 PM by CoinHoarder |
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can you learn how to divide properly?
if 1 gigahash = 0.0234 cents, then you're literally fakking saying that the jalapeno only costs 0.0234 x 4.5 gigahash = $0.1053 cents
what you're looking for is megahash per second
so 1 jalapeno = 4.5 gigahash or 4,500 megahash divided by 163(unit + shipping). 163/4500 = $0.036 cents per megahash
single = 60 gigahash or 60,000 megahash divided by 1333 = $0.022 cents per megahash
minirig = 1.5 terahash/1,500 gigahash/1,500,000 megahash divided by 29,899 = $0.019 cents
NOW FOR BTCFPGA's 54 gigahash machine, $1,100 w/ s/h 54 g or 54,000 megahash divdided by 1,100 = $0.020 cents
to match the minirig, you would have to buy 28 units of the above.
28 units x 54 gigahash = 1.512 terahash = $29,932 to 30k even
PLUS you would have to buy several multiple USB hubs to connect 28 computers to 1 computer, probably another 3-5 k right there.
I graduated 4th grade bro, I know how to divide. Can you learn to take a step back and think for a second instead of just automatically assuming I am wrong because I didn't calculate the numbers in the format that you think they should be calculated in? You are regurgitating the same information in my post but in a different format. I suppose I didn't explain myself properly.... You are comparing the cost per gH and I was comparing the gH per 1USD$ If I would have seen the announcement BFL made before I made the post, you would see that you could plug those numbers in to proof the numbers you got, but because of the announcement that I hadn't seen yet, my numbers are wrong, not because I don't know how to divide. PS: 3.5/149= 0.023489932885906 etc.
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solareclipse64236 (OP)
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September 30, 2012, 01:53:33 PM |
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it's about the cost of EACH MEGAHASH
stop doing drugs over there you mothereffing brat
if you're trying to figure out the cost of each gigahash then you just need to multiply what i wrote by 1000
SO MOTHEREFFING LITERALLY BECAUSE YOUR ASS CANNOT COMPREHEND THIS, 1 gigahash produced by a jalapeno costs $36.2 dollars and the max total of 4.5 gigahash costs exactly $163
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September 30, 2012, 02:27:21 PM |
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it's about the cost of EACH MEGAHASH
stop doing drugs over there you mothereffing brat
if you're trying to figure out the cost of each gigahash then you just need to multiply what i wrote by 1000
SO MOTHEREFFING LITERALLY BECAUSE YOUR ASS CANNOT COMPREHEND THIS, 1 gigahash produced by a jalapeno costs $36.2 dollars and the max total of 4.5 gigahash costs exactly $163
I explained to you clearly in my reply how I got my numbers and why they are correct, as are yours.... You are doing your numbers in $ per gH I was doing mine in gH per ONE US DOLLAREach way of doing it is correct and shows the same information, it is really not that complicated. You are either a troll or a few clowns short of a circus. Either way, I'm not going to waste anymore energy trying to explain this to you because you are clearly mentally challenged.
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solareclipse64236 (OP)
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September 30, 2012, 10:41:06 PM |
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right you need to really label your results there chum
doing what you just did up there, which is 4.5/163 = 0.027 (you need to insert the word gigahash here) or 27 megahash PER dollar
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October 01, 2012, 12:08:27 AM |
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right you need to really label your results there chum
doing what you just did up there, which is 4.5/163 = 0.027 (you need to insert the word gigahash here) or 27 megahash PER dollar
Jalepeno gH/$: 0.023489932885906 Single Gh/$: 0.0307929176289453 MiniRig Gh/$: 0.0334459346466437 btcFPGA Gh/$: 0.0504672897196262
Are you concerned that the very clear and unambiguous labels came before the numbers instead of after?
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October 01, 2012, 01:54:20 AM |
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bfl policy is october ship.
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October 01, 2012, 02:07:45 AM |
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How long will the preorder window remain open?
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Shadow383
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October 01, 2012, 03:00:04 AM |
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bfl policy is october ship.
BFL's policy could be landing on the moon in a teacup, that doesn't mean it's going to happen. right you need to really label your results there chum
doing what you just did up there, which is 4.5/163 = 0.027 (you need to insert the word gigahash here) or 27 megahash PER dollar
Not so good at reading units, are we?
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puck2
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October 01, 2012, 04:49:59 AM |
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I have liked the tone and clarity with which Tom at BTCFPGA has managed his ASIC release... I did not have the same feeling about BFL.
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dust
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October 01, 2012, 04:52:26 AM |
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bfl policy is october ship.
BFL has already pushed their ship date back to November.
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solareclipse64236 (OP)
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October 01, 2012, 08:20:37 AM |
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bfl policy is october ship.
BFL's policy could be landing on the moon in a teacup, that doesn't mean it's going to happen. right you need to really label your results there chum
doing what you just did up there, which is 4.5/163 = 0.027 (you need to insert the word gigahash here) or 27 megahash PER dollar
Not so good at reading units, are we? if it's not labeled properly then no
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Morblias
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October 01, 2012, 01:46:59 PM |
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Tom (bASIC) seems to care more about his customers then bfl. Also, I think if you pre-ordered both right now, you would probably get the bASIC before the bfl. I would go with the bASIC.
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October 01, 2012, 07:15:24 PM |
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I'm not intrigued by what any of you have to say. Its all heat and no light.
A form of mental masturbation.
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SLok
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October 01, 2012, 07:24:37 PM |
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I'm not intrigued by what any of you have to say. Its all heat and no light.
A form of mental masturbation.
As your post is.
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Shadow383
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October 01, 2012, 07:31:32 PM |
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bfl policy is october ship.
BFL's policy could be landing on the moon in a teacup, that doesn't mean it's going to happen. right you need to really label your results there chum
doing what you just did up there, which is 4.5/163 = 0.027 (you need to insert the word gigahash here) or 27 megahash PER dollar
Not so good at reading units, are we? if it's not labeled properly then no Gh/$ Gigahash per dollar. What is there to understand? It's okay, you're allowed to admit when you're wrong
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solareclipse64236 (OP)
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October 01, 2012, 07:54:30 PM |
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uh no, should have stated megahash per dollar
what's the difference?
1. the word megahash
number 2? per 1(one) dollar
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October 01, 2012, 09:19:45 PM |
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Does anybody know the estimate delivery for BTCFPGA?
BL seems to be January
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October 01, 2012, 10:03:21 PM |
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BTCFPGA's bASIC seems to be a better value than most other products coming out at the moment.
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October 01, 2012, 10:06:49 PM |
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I currently have on order the currently shipping Single @ bfl labs, and have pre-ordered the upcoming single, and they gave me a credit of 599 to trade in the single i will receive in late oct. The guy told me December, January timeframe to get the new single, depending on where you are on the pre-order list.
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October 01, 2012, 10:48:13 PM |
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I currently have on order the currently shipping Single @ bfl labs, and have pre-ordered the upcoming single, and they gave me a credit of 599 to trade in the single i will receive in late oct. The guy told me December, January timeframe to get the new single, depending on where you are on the pre-order list.
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Is the Dec/Jan time frame for those wanting to order anytime soon, or has that time frame already passed?
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solareclipse64236 (OP)
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October 01, 2012, 10:55:46 PM |
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what the fuck does BFL labs mean? they clearly stated october
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October 01, 2012, 11:52:51 PM |
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what the fuck does BFL labs mean? they clearly stated october
Since this is the newbies board, and some of the people here might be new to these forums, I'd like to point out to everyone that there are ignore buttons on the left side of the page. They can make a dramatic improvement in the quality of posts from certain users.
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October 02, 2012, 12:32:10 AM |
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good point!
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October 02, 2012, 12:49:14 AM |
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what the fuck does BFL labs mean? they clearly stated october
Yea, that's if your first on the list of the pre-order list. You need to get on the preorder list if you want it right now for delivery in late dec/early jan. It's taking me 1 month to get the currently shipping product!!!
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solareclipse64236 (OP)
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October 02, 2012, 01:48:04 AM |
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buddy if you're not used to the word fuck in a message board then get lost, most of us are adults here
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October 02, 2012, 02:08:14 AM |
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i still wonder if the numbers are true, have to see first before believing
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KonstantinosM
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October 24, 2012, 01:12:12 PM |
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That is the data I used to make my choice:
BFL labs: Little Single: 21.64 Dollars per Gigahash BitForce 'Little' Single SC 30 Gh/s - $649| 649/30=21.6333333333 bASIC: 27Gh/s bASIC 22.22 Dollars per Gigahash 27Gh/s bASIC NextGen Bitcoin Miner $599.99| 599.99/27= 22.2218518519
Also it is worthy to mention that the 54Gh/s bASIC is the best on the market at 19.8146296296 per Gigahash
I personally bought a Little Single because of the possibility of earlier delivery and its superiority to the 27 bASIC, If I had a Bigger Budget (If I wanted to take a higher risk) the 54Gh/s bASIC would be best.
Feel free to dispute me if I'm wrong.
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