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August 02, 2015, 05:01:37 AM
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Gordon Duff calls John McCain the Father of ISIS

"Published on Aug 1, 2015

Video by * Harold Saive )channel
Gordon Duff Informs Syria that US is subservient to israel and that Senator John McCain is the "Father of ISIS""

Edit: Obama Slips Up: "We're Training ISIL"

"During his speech, Obama uttered the line, 'with the additional steps I ordered last month, we’re speeding up training of ISIL forces.'"


So what do you guys think?

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August 02, 2015, 06:42:01 AM
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ISIS has dozens of fathers. And John McCain is definitely one of them. In the 2012 and 2013, he was one of the masterminds in channeling the money and weaponry to various rebel groups (through the Saudis and the Qataris) in Syria. These rebel groups later transformed themselves in to the Islamic State. The money / weapon flow continued even after the Islamic State started massacring the religious minorities and the Shiites.

                               
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August 02, 2015, 06:42:31 AM
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Gordon Duff calls John McCain the Father of ISIS

Edit: Obama Slips Up: "We're Training ISIL"

"During his speech, Obama uttered the line, 'with the additional steps I ordered last month, we’re speeding up training of ISIL forces.'"

"Iraq"..."ISIL"...pretty similar. Seems very plausible the President, who's crazy fucking busy with 20 priorities going on at once, could have just mis-spoke. I mean he didn't even realize he said it which supports the fact that he may have been just going through the motions of a press briefing, reading notes, and trying to get through everything quickly.

I mean there's no way that that shit was written on the notes he was reading from, you know?

As for your John McCain comment...I have no comment. The US aided Afghani forces long ago which people say lead to Al Qaeda...

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August 02, 2015, 06:44:57 AM
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ISIS has dozens of fathers. And John McCain is definitely one of them. In the 2012 and 2013, he was one of the masterminds in channeling the money and weaponry to various rebel groups (through the Saudis and the Qataris) in Syria. These rebel groups later transformed themselves in to the Islamic State. The money / weapon flow continued even after the Islamic State started massacring the religious minorities and the Shiites.

That's the consequence of trying to put order to chaos in a region of the world that is lead and ruled by tribes rather than governments. There's no loyalty and there's no predicting who will align with who in year to come. McCain was doing something in 2012 that at the time had likely zero implication what could have happened. Hell, he could have been getting played by these tribal leaders (most likely!)

What the US needs to do is let the people in the Middle East figure their shit out on their own for a while...remove the money...remove the forces...just keep a close watch and make sure the fighting doesn't venture outside of their backyard.

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August 02, 2015, 06:49:38 AM
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McCain was doing something in 2012 that at the time had likely zero implication what could have happened. Hell, he could have been getting played by these tribal leaders (most likely!)

Back then, his primary objective was to get Assad out of power, by any means possible. And I believe that right now he is more or less happy with the results. Assad is rapidly losing control over Syria, and his army is crumbling. One more ally of the Iran-Russia axis is about to get eliminated. McCain doesn't care about all those Yazidis and the Assyrians who are getting butchered by the Islamic State. For him, they are just collateral damage.

                               
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August 02, 2015, 03:15:07 PM
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I can't help but wonder what the rest of the world leaders think of our leadership in the US with this being said....

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August 02, 2015, 05:09:25 PM
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Gordon Duff calls John McCain the Father of ISIS

"Published on Aug 1, 2015

Video by * Harold Saive )channel
Gordon Duff Informs Syria that US is subservient to israel and that Senator John McCain is the "Father of ISIS""

Edit: Obama Slips Up: "We're Training ISIL"

"During his speech, Obama uttered the line, 'with the additional steps I ordered last month, we’re speeding up training of ISIL forces.'"


So what do you guys think?
I think the same kind of garbage, misleading statement can be made in any context.

XYZ was the Father of Stalin.  <<note who he associated with age 20-30>>
ZZZ was the Father of Hilter.  << same>>
etc, etc etc.
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