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August 03, 2015, 01:37:20 AM
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I wish some people could bring links from respected sources to back up their claims about how awful the Japanese prisons are. It's certainly true that they're different, but well, everything's just so different in Japan. I believe nothing happens if you let the soap fell down in the shower in a Japanese prison.

The info isn't really hard to find.

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=Japanese+prison+conditions+

The OP must have read this story or one similar to it. Everything he describes is in there from having to close your eyes to eat to the thick leather belt treatment. However it says only a tiny fraction of the population is in jail so maybe Mark can pay to reduce his sentence, and if he can't he's unlikely to get raped.

http://www.nytimes.com/1996/07/08/world/prisons-in-japan-are-safe-but-harsh.html

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Three months after being put in a Japanese prison, Kevin M. Mara was about to sit down to a meal when the jailer called out his name.

Mr. Mara, 32 and Connecticut-born, says he then made a horrible mistake: he opened his eyes and looked up. That apparently broke a rule that before eating, each inmate should close his eyes and look downward.

And so, Mr. Mara's lawyers say, he was kept in solitary confinement for 10 days. There, they say, he was accused of "throwing books" and was stripped and restrained by a wide, thick leather belt around his waist, with both hands bound in steel-and-leather cuffs behind his back.

Mr. Mara spent 20 hours this way and was forced to lap up food from a bowl while lying prone on the floor.

In many ways, Japan's prison system is impressive. Overcrowding is not a problem, assaults or rapes among prisoners are rare, drugs and weapons are virtually nonexistent within prison walls, hardly anyone escapes and Japan has an exceptionally small proportion of its population in prison.

The problem, human rights campaigners say, is that the Japanese system achieves this record in part by draconian rules and mind-boggling regimentation.
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August 03, 2015, 01:41:08 AM
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Isn't he broke?? Please someone tell me he's broke.
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August 03, 2015, 01:42:32 AM
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i think OP is related to this human rights watch paper:

https://www.hrw.org/sites/default/files/reports/JAPAN953.PDF



and i though the US prison system is fked.

welcome japan to my list of fucktard nations.


there are some minor updates since 2007, but japan still gives a shit about torturing prison inmates.

http://www.hurights.or.jp/archives/focus/section2/2012/06/detention-centers-and-prisons-in-japan.html



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August 03, 2015, 04:12:50 AM
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Hmmm, so that's why the Japanese people are so much disciplined.
Now I don't want to go to Japan, accidently if I broke the rules then I'll end up in a thing like this.
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August 03, 2015, 04:25:41 AM
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Apparently Japanese prisons have lots of rules that are very strictly enforced. For example, rules are things like you must close your eyes when you eat and you must ask the permission of a guard to wipe the sweat off your forehead. Apparently inmates are watched by guards incessantly, so if you need to ask permission to scratch or something, then a guard is standing by handy to do that.

Violating the least rule results in "solitary confinement", which is not just being left alone in a room like in the United States. In Japan the little room, which is more like a closet, has some metal loops in the wall. They strap this leather and metal straight jacket thing on you and hook you up to the rings. The belt is wide and can be tightened against the disobeying prisoner's abdomen so that they can only take very shallow breaths. Apparently it is extremely uncomfortable. During meal time (once a day) you get a bowl of soup. Naturally the victim, err prisoner, is not released from the "protective restraints". They just unhook the prisoner from the wall, lay them down by the bowl of soup which is placed on the floor and they lap it up like a dog. Afterwards the prisoner is lifted and hooked up again. They stay in that condition for the term of the solitary confinement, anywhere from 2 to 10 days, depending on how much the prisoner pissed off the guards. There are no bathrooms, of course, so the prisoner just shits his soup diarrhea on himself.

The main human interaction in Japanese prisons, solitary confinement and otherwise, is a guard bitch slapping you and screaming in your face what a worthless piece of trash you are.


is this a first hand information or just an urban legend?
i dont think this is happening or else U.N. may step in for humanitarian reasons
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August 03, 2015, 05:30:11 AM
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Apparently Japanese prisons have lots of rules that are very strictly enforced. For example, rules are things like you must close your eyes when you eat and you must ask the permission of a guard to wipe the sweat off your forehead. Apparently inmates are watched by guards incessantly, so if you need to ask permission to scratch or something, then a guard is standing by handy to do that.

Violating the least rule results in "solitary confinement", which is not just being left alone in a room like in the United States. In Japan the little room, which is more like a closet, has some metal loops in the wall. They strap this leather and metal straight jacket thing on you and hook you up to the rings. The belt is wide and can be tightened against the disobeying prisoner's abdomen so that they can only take very shallow breaths. Apparently it is extremely uncomfortable. During meal time (once a day) you get a bowl of soup. Naturally the victim, err prisoner, is not released from the "protective restraints". They just unhook the prisoner from the wall, lay them down by the bowl of soup which is placed on the floor and they lap it up like a dog. Afterwards the prisoner is lifted and hooked up again. They stay in that condition for the term of the solitary confinement, anywhere from 2 to 10 days, depending on how much the prisoner pissed off the guards. There are no bathrooms, of course, so the prisoner just shits his soup diarrhea on himself.

The main human interaction in Japanese prisons, solitary confinement and otherwise, is a guard bitch slapping you and screaming in your face what a worthless piece of trash you are.


is this a first hand information or just an urban legend?
i dont think this is happening or else U.N. may step in for humanitarian reasons
There are many things that UN doesn't even know and are still happening around the world.
Like slavery and human trafficking.
They will never be able to stop those.
It's just money that people will fall for.
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August 03, 2015, 05:31:03 AM
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August 03, 2015, 05:37:24 AM
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No prisons are worse than American prisons, but yes I've heard bad things about Japanese prisons...

There are plenty of prisons worse than American prisons like Mexico's prisons.
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August 03, 2015, 05:49:53 AM
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No prisons are worse than American prisons, but yes I've heard bad things about Japanese prisons...

There are plenty of prisons worse than American prisons like Mexico's prisons.
Yes I've also seen Mexican prisons.
No........ I've not been in them but have seen on national geographic channel. Banged up abroad.
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August 03, 2015, 05:57:22 AM
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I wonder if like some places they have different "levels" of prisons based on the offenders finances. Like in Mexico if you have enough money you can have iPads, cellphones, and tunnels that lead from under your shower to a house a mile away.
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August 03, 2015, 05:59:30 AM
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These countries miss the whole goal with this actions. You cannot lock someone up and do these things with him or her and think they would be better off, when they get out of there.

The goal is simple.... Take someone out of the community, where he/she did something wrong, and correct this behaviour with skilled people to rehabilitate them and put them back into the community to function

as a normal person. Let's take an example : A girl is raped repeatedly as a child by her father, she grows up and gets married to a drunk... one night he comes home drunk, and demand sex... she says no, and he

rapes her. She has not been helped, when she was small and this rape open up the anger, and she goes into the kitchen and takes a knife and stab him.

So they throw her in jail.... and she has not worked out that anger.. in jail they treat her like filth, and she gets out, and she kills 5 more men..... Did this environment help her or the society?

What should have happened? .... She should have received counceling from a Social worker / support group / Psychiatrist to vent the anger and to heal the pain and the anger, and then treated as a human

to gain self respect, so that she could re-enter the community to make a positve contribution... That is rehabilitation.  Angry  You may be next.. or one of those 5 men who were killed.   

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August 03, 2015, 02:07:40 PM
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These countries miss the whole goal with this actions. You cannot lock someone up and do these things with him or her and think they would be better off, when they get out of there.

The goal is simple.... Take someone out of the community, where he/she did something wrong, and correct this behaviour with skilled people to rehabilitate them and put them back into the community to function

as a normal person. Let's take an example : A girl is raped repeatedly as a child by her father, she grows up and gets married to a drunk... one night he comes home drunk, and demand sex... she says no, and he

rapes her. She has not been helped, when she was small and this rape open up the anger, and she goes into the kitchen and takes a knife and stab him.

So they throw her in jail.... and she has not worked out that anger.. in jail they treat her like filth, and she gets out, and she kills 5 more men..... Did this environment help her or the society?

What should have happened? .... She should have received counceling from a Social worker / support group / Psychiatrist to vent the anger and to heal the pain and the anger, and then treated as a human

to gain self respect, so that she could re-enter the community to make a positve contribution... That is rehabilitation.  Angry  You may be next.. or one of those 5 men who were killed.   

Wow, that's pretty detailed. What age did he start raping you or was it another relative that got raped?

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August 04, 2015, 05:43:24 AM
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These countries miss the whole goal with this actions. You cannot lock someone up and do these things with him or her and think they would be better off, when they get out of there.

The goal is simple.... Take someone out of the community, where he/she did something wrong, and correct this behaviour with skilled people to rehabilitate them and put them back into the community to function

as a normal person. Let's take an example : A girl is raped repeatedly as a child by her father, she grows up and gets married to a drunk... one night he comes home drunk, and demand sex... she says no, and he

rapes her. She has not been helped, when she was small and this rape open up the anger, and she goes into the kitchen and takes a knife and stab him.

So they throw her in jail.... and she has not worked out that anger.. in jail they treat her like filth, and she gets out, and she kills 5 more men..... Did this environment help her or the society?

What should have happened? .... She should have received counceling from a Social worker / support group / Psychiatrist to vent the anger and to heal the pain and the anger, and then treated as a human

to gain self respect, so that she could re-enter the community to make a positve contribution... That is rehabilitation.  Angry  You may be next.. or one of those 5 men who were killed.   

Wow, that's pretty detailed. What age did he start raping you or was it another relative that got raped?

It's just an example.. One of my friends wife work at a Helpline call centre, and this is the type of calls she gets on a daily basis. There are some pretty cruel things going on in this world.

The funny thing is, most people think these kind of things cannot happen with them or their relatives and they are quick to make judgement on other people.

Throwing people in jail without proper rehabilitation, just create a pattern for worse crime. These institutions are not just a punishment, it's a opportunity to improve the community.  Wink 

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August 04, 2015, 05:50:07 AM
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These countries miss the whole goal with this actions. You cannot lock someone up and do these things with him or her and think they would be better off, when they get out of there.

The goal is simple.... Take someone out of the community, where he/she did something wrong, and correct this behaviour with skilled people to rehabilitate them and put them back into the community to function

as a normal person. Let's take an example : A girl is raped repeatedly as a child by her father, she grows up and gets married to a drunk... one night he comes home drunk, and demand sex... she says no, and he

rapes her. She has not been helped, when she was small and this rape open up the anger, and she goes into the kitchen and takes a knife and stab him.

So they throw her in jail.... and she has not worked out that anger.. in jail they treat her like filth, and she gets out, and she kills 5 more men..... Did this environment help her or the society?

What should have happened? .... She should have received counceling from a Social worker / support group / Psychiatrist to vent the anger and to heal the pain and the anger, and then treated as a human

to gain self respect, so that she could re-enter the community to make a positve contribution... That is rehabilitation.  Angry  You may be next.. or one of those 5 men who were killed.   

Wow, that's pretty detailed. What age did he start raping you or was it another relative that got raped?

It's just an example.. One of my friends wife work at a Helpline call centre, and this is the type of calls she gets on a daily basis. There are some pretty cruel things going on in this world.

The funny thing is, most people think these kind of things cannot happen with them or their relatives and they are quick to make judgement on other people.

Throwing people in jail without proper rehabilitation, just create a pattern for worse crime. These institutions are not just a punishment, it's a opportunity to improve the community.  Wink 

Well, I can't really disagree with that but I don't know what can be done about it.

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August 04, 2015, 10:37:28 AM
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Apparently Japanese prisons have lots of rules that are very strictly enforced. For example, rules are things like you must close your eyes when you eat and you must ask the permission of a guard to wipe the sweat off your forehead. Apparently inmates are watched by guards incessantly, so if you need to ask permission to scratch or something, then a guard is standing by handy to do that.

Violating the least rule results in "solitary confinement", which is not just being left alone in a room like in the United States. In Japan the little room, which is more like a closet, has some metal loops in the wall. They strap this leather and metal straight jacket thing on you and hook you up to the rings. The belt is wide and can be tightened against the disobeying prisoner's abdomen so that they can only take very shallow breaths. Apparently it is extremely uncomfortable. During meal time (once a day) you get a bowl of soup. Naturally the victim, err prisoner, is not released from the "protective restraints". They just unhook the prisoner from the wall, lay them down by the bowl of soup which is placed on the floor and they lap it up like a dog. Afterwards the prisoner is lifted and hooked up again. They stay in that condition for the term of the solitary confinement, anywhere from 2 to 10 days, depending on how much the prisoner pissed off the guards. There are no bathrooms, of course, so the prisoner just shits his soup diarrhea on himself.

The main human interaction in Japanese prisons, solitary confinement and otherwise, is a guard bitch slapping you and screaming in your face what a worthless piece of trash you are.


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August 04, 2015, 05:49:04 PM
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Apparently in Singapore, you can be jailed for chewing gum. Unthinkable over here.

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Anyone else get a little excited after reading op? Wink
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August 04, 2015, 06:33:29 PM
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I wish some people could bring links from respected sources to back up their claims about how awful the Japanese prisons are. It's certainly true that they're different, but well, everything's just so different in Japan. I believe nothing happens if you let the soap fell down in the shower in a Japanese prison.

The info isn't really hard to find.

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=Japanese+prison+conditions+

I did as thy sayeth:

If convicted of murdering Nicola Furlong, Richard Hinds could face up to 10 years in an adult prison, where he may be forced to sleep on tatami mat floors without heating in winter, bath communally, and be required to undertake educational programmes aimed at understanding the grief of his victim’s family.

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August 04, 2015, 06:43:26 PM
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I know that the prisons shouldn't be a nice place to be in but this is just too much. Maybe they are trying to affect other people with the harsh prisons, so they will not do any sort of crime, drugs or other criminal activities Tongue
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