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August 03, 2015, 06:21:14 PM
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Definitely going to pass on this one.  8TH/s in a standard ATX tower case?  3x1600W PSUs stuffed in there as well?  You'd need to have a couple jet turbines attached just to remove the heat fast enough.  The heatsinks alone required for this thing would make it virtually impossible to stuff into the form factor.

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24 months warranty LOOOOOOOOOL
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August 03, 2015, 06:57:51 PM
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8TH and 4800W generates heat like hell.C'mon theres no way it could be packed to that case with proper psu's and cooling.I wonder what kind of scam they are planning?
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August 03, 2015, 07:09:11 PM
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Definitely going to pass on this one.  8TH/s in a standard ATX tower case?  3x1600W PSUs stuffed in there as well?  You'd need to have a couple jet turbines attached just to remove the heat fast enough.  The heatsinks alone required for this thing would make it virtually impossible to stuff into the form factor.

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August 03, 2015, 07:53:02 PM
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Just left them negative feedback.

More and more signs are pointing to this being a scam.

Honestly, I'm a bit weirded out by their asking for users names and addresses for shipping their "impossible miners", and this is quickly becoming eerily bizarre.
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August 04, 2015, 12:39:31 AM
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Before it gets deleted from the main, moderated thread.

Can't speak to this latest scam, but I can tell you the $199 S5's is a scam. Stupid me, I was running late for a family trip and I ran across a story and ad for the S5 liquidation sale. I failed to do extensive research on this POS company and ordered a bunch, actually 3 orders in total for me and a couple friends that took my advice.

See link of the orders, payments and emails for the hardware I order from them. I am in the US, so its 14.04 BTC but just filed a claim on the UK fraud site and they had me convert the loss to Pounds. I have a buddy in the UK and asked him to stop by the corporate address to see is anyone is there. Nothing, there was a women that came to the door, but knew nothing about any CloudThink company and said she works for the real estate office thats at that address.

At least a dozen emails to support address via website and direct email, called toll free number daily and also plays a looping msg that all agents are busy them drops call after 3 loops. No response of any kind. Its almost 3 weeks now and nothing!

The below dropbox link is a PDF with most of the evidence, I have a few more things, so if anyone would like any additional proof. Please ask!

https://www.dropbox.com/s/qc7yygpe9empovm/CT%20Order%20Proof.pdf?dl=0

I have reported them to Action Fraud Team in the UK, CRN:NFRC150701127117. Trying to see what other agency I can report this fraud to, I'm out over 2,500 pounds and I'm sure there are many other victims of both the cloud mining scam and the recent hardware sale scam.

Even if you can't get one of their new units, their website suggests that you buy an S5 for $199.  Might be a good consolation prize.

While I told them I'd be happy to review a test unit for them, I can tell you that this alone raises red flags for me.

There's no reason to sell an S5 for $199. The market price is twice that.

The hardware has been used, this is why the price is so low. We no longer need this equipment.

How about you refund my 14 BTC or actually ship me the S5's I ordered 3 weeks ago!

We have received all required funds for your payment of 7.26439100 BTC to Cloud Think Mining Ltd. and your payment is now Complete.
The transaction ID of this payment is: 492daf46a98baea68e8eee9cb152c4711f4f33b8ad1b9fb7593c3bef46d52a9d


We have received all required funds for your payment of 3.74955900 BTC to Cloud Think Mining Ltd. and your payment is now Complete.
The transaction ID of this payment is: 3f35feeee2bc244045249d1c9ab054a754bf7078d0496a61f1cbb29b5e06d01e


We have received all required funds for your payment of 3.03512700 BTC to Cloud Think Mining Ltd. and your payment is now Complete.
The transaction ID of this payment is: 6398ea47da3d43c13ae9e39a4ec4fdc390c324e873f5446444d82bfb1a1e810d

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August 04, 2015, 02:39:51 AM
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It has sat on the other thread for 2+ hours.  I guess the guy was fishing for info on members.

Before it gets deleted from the main, moderated thread.

Can't speak to this latest scam, but I can tell you the $199 S5's is a scam. Stupid me, I was running late for a family trip and I ran across a story and ad for the S5 liquidation sale. I failed to do extensive research on this POS company and ordered a bunch, actually 3 orders in total for me and a couple friends that took my advice.

See link of the orders, payments and emails for the hardware I order from them. I am in the US, so its 14.04 BTC but just filed a claim on the UK fraud site and they had me convert the loss to Pounds. I have a buddy in the UK and asked him to stop by the corporate address to see is anyone is there. Nothing, there was a women that came to the door, but knew nothing about any CloudThink company and said she works for the real estate office thats at that address.

At least a dozen emails to support address via website and direct email, called toll free number daily and also plays a looping msg that all agents are busy them drops call after 3 loops. No response of any kind. Its almost 3 weeks now and nothing!

The below dropbox link is a PDF with most of the evidence, I have a few more things, so if anyone would like any additional proof. Please ask!

https://www.dropbox.com/s/qc7yygpe9empovm/CT%20Order%20Proof.pdf?dl=0

I have reported them to Action Fraud Team in the UK, CRN:NFRC150701127117. Trying to see what other agency I can report this fraud to, I'm out over 2,500 pounds and I'm sure there are many other victims of both the cloud mining scam and the recent hardware sale scam.

Even if you can't get one of their new units, their website suggests that you buy an S5 for $199.  Might be a good consolation prize.

While I told them I'd be happy to review a test unit for them, I can tell you that this alone raises red flags for me.

There's no reason to sell an S5 for $199. The market price is twice that.

The hardware has been used, this is why the price is so low. We no longer need this equipment.

How about you refund my 14 BTC or actually ship me the S5's I ordered 3 weeks ago!

We have received all required funds for your payment of 7.26439100 BTC to Cloud Think Mining Ltd. and your payment is now Complete.
The transaction ID of this payment is: 492daf46a98baea68e8eee9cb152c4711f4f33b8ad1b9fb7593c3bef46d52a9d


We have received all required funds for your payment of 3.74955900 BTC to Cloud Think Mining Ltd. and your payment is now Complete.
The transaction ID of this payment is: 3f35feeee2bc244045249d1c9ab054a754bf7078d0496a61f1cbb29b5e06d01e


We have received all required funds for your payment of 3.03512700 BTC to Cloud Think Mining Ltd. and your payment is now Complete.
The transaction ID of this payment is: 6398ea47da3d43c13ae9e39a4ec4fdc390c324e873f5446444d82bfb1a1e810d


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August 04, 2015, 11:20:24 AM
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In the absence of any proof that the miner actually exists and proof that it mines at said speed, this is quite likely a scam. Interesting, that people are still trying to play the old scam game, since FTC and many other 3 letter agencies are on the lookout for such dicks.

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August 04, 2015, 12:49:01 PM
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yes it is scam and I'm happy, that we can discuss this in non-self moderated thread, which is and will be censored.

to potential buyers (if there are any of the), before you consider to send X thousands worth of bitcoin (so without possibility to reverse charge), please check this firts: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1074272.0

I bet anything, that this is last call of those scammers they will disappear within 2 - 3 weeks. beware, they are using lot of shill accounts here and manipulating social media like twitter, reddit or other ones.

so again, avoid and watch, what will happen..
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August 04, 2015, 02:17:11 PM
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Another deleted post.

Avoid any Cloudthink.io AT ALL COSTS.

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A reply of yours, quoted below, was deleted by the starter of a self-moderated topic.

Apparently you can't ask for a lousy phone picture of a functioning used equipment to be posted here, considering the OP is selling 1 million US dollars worth of equipment. And he can't post a simple picture to prevent scam accusations? I guess it doesn't matter, since even though he claims the negative trust was accumulated by another employee, which had a disagreeable behavior, he does the same thing again claiming to be different. Picture please!

Also:

Power Consumption: 4800W

Cooling Fans: 4 X 120mm


How is it possible to dissipate 5kWh of energy with 4 medium fans?
Where are the fans located on the case?
Why is it impossible to a picture of a real miner?

It's impossible to dissipate ~5kWh of energy with 4 x 120mm fans.
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August 04, 2015, 02:59:12 PM
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I stated as much earlier in this thread (said you'd need jet turbines) and also in their "official" thread stating that 4x120mm fans couldn't possibly dissipate that heat unless they were misting liquid nitrogen over things.  Some of the best 120mm fans I've seen can only push ~250cfm, and that'll in no way be able to remove the kind of heat this supposed miner will generate.

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August 04, 2015, 03:04:41 PM
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Cool man..
i think you received the Hardware or what?
Have read the full description on rekkie's official thread about  New Imperator 8TH bitcoin miner , i am wondering is it legit?
Have you received the test hardware?

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Cool man..
i think you received the Hardware or what?
Have read the full description on rekkie's official thread about  New Imperator 8TH bitcoin miner , i am wondering is it legit?
Have you received the test hardware?
No. It is not legit. It is most assuredly a scam.

No one has received test hardware.

The laws of thermodynamics preclude this product from existing in it's advertised form.
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Cool man..
i think you received the Hardware or what?
Have read the full description on rekkie's official thread about  New Imperator 8TH bitcoin miner , i am wondering is it legit?
Have you received the test hardware?
No. It is not legit. It is most assuredly a scam.

No one has received test hardware.

The laws of thermodynamics preclude this product from existing in it's advertised form.

4800 watts in a case that can do about 1500watts max.


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it concerns me that he has been online at least 3 times today but hasnt felt the need to make a single post to defend his position.

Not a single picture or video of any hardware.

Does not look promising  Undecided





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I think we should rename it the Cloudthink Imposter.
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it concerns me that he has been online at least 3 times today but hasnt felt the need to make a single post to defend his position.

Not a single picture or video of any hardware.

Does not look promising  Undecided

They behaved in the same way regarding their "investment plans", which are supposed to depend on this hardware for income.
Just pulled some numbers out of nowhere, then simply changed them overnight, no rationalization, no response to any request for clarification, just censorship in self moderated threads.
I don't know what they're trying to achieve, but they're certainly going about it in a strange way.

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Sending Bitcoin as payment for a photo shopped Mac Pro (with the damn cd-slot intact) . . yeah. .
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Y'all missed an obvious "scam" tipoff.

 Company claims to be in Manchester in the UK.

 Why is their website denominated in Dollars? Not EU, not even Pounds, DOLLARS.


 Talk about some fish that stinks all the way to the USA....
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Another fun one, besides the currency, is the "." used as a separator.  The US and UK use a ",".  So, why would you advertise the price for a UK-based company as $2.299?  To anyone from the US, that is "two dollars and twenty-nine and nine tenths cents".  A lot of times we see our gasoline prices like that "$2.299 per gallon".

Let's see...
Badly photoshopped old Mac Pro chassis - check
Impossible to achieve thermodynamic specs - check
Discrepancies between currencies and numeric formatting - check

Obvious scam is obvious.

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