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October 13, 2016, 08:25:28 AM
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the best time for you to invest into the bitcoins are the lowest points of the bitcoin becuase we need to know what the price will do in the future than we know if we are
going to buy new coins or not you know.
I can't take the main point of your sentences, for buying in the lowest rate of bitcoin are not forever good for us, because we can't expected about the future of rate and can imagine, and like your said, dude.

Agree with you , im somehow quite confused on what he said but  lowest  point  of bitcoin wont happen anytime soon and   if that thing  would actually come then bitcoin maybe  in a  crisis or into a big problem.  Borrowing money would be useful if you uses it  to a certain investment which you could somehow assure yourselve to be profitable  on the  long run  but   when you tend to invest  on bitcoin the  profits would  not be good as well and able to repay your  borrowed money to someone.

Borrowing money for  putting up into a  investment is not  a bad idea at all  because  you could able to make profits  with it and  you must really assure that because if your investment would  give you  negative profits  then you would surely suffer  much more  problem on the long run.

Here in my country there is a practice like that , people borrows momey for business purposes.

But it has to be sort of effective business and demand here like food business etc. where the profits is sure for long term.


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October 13, 2016, 07:27:25 PM
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When is it useful to borrow bitcoin? Considering that it is really hard to get a loan here on this forum even with escrow, and the plentiful amount of scammers floating around here, is there really a great reason to even bother getting a loan here? I mean unless you're flat broke I could understand but even still it's an uphill battle. It's way easier to take out a cash advance in an emergency. I suppose if you're dealing with a trusted borrower and trustworthy escrow you may have a chance in obtaining your funds. Other than that, it can be difficult for a scam-less transaction to take place.

Probably never, becaause bitcoin is a deflationary market, and if you borrow 1 btc at 200$ market price.

Then you use the 200$ to buy whatever, then if the btc price goes to 1 million $, then you owe 1 million $ which you cant pay from your salary.

Only inflationary currencies are worth using for credits like EUR,USD,JPY, and the rest of the fiat which is devalued and printed like crazy.

Bitcoin's price is volatile. It may be not fit to the large amount of loan. But it is for small amount and short term lending. But it will be different. If the borrowers are invovled in bitcoin business, not expose to the rate flucatuation risk, they may consider it a good option, like IPO, ICO,  crowdfunding for bitcoin or altcoins related business.

Sure that one is good. I mean everytime you exchange bitcoin into an altcoin or fiat, you are exposed to exchange risk.

But that is not necessarly a long term investment, its not even a loan, its just a pure short term startup/investment.

But most people take personal loans not business loans, which dont generate money, but generate huge liability after.
Taking those into consideration big loans people usually consider the rating into dollars and not bitcoin soo lets say i lend 1 btc 600 dollars with repayment of 630 in 30 days, if bitcoin price raises you will send me less coins then i sent you, people are smart, this is the way they proceed, but who does lend may ask to get paid into bitcoin and not dollars.
That is smart but if you lend bitcoins I think the natural thing to do for a lender is to want bitcoins back as well after all the lender wants to earn some money out of the trade and choosing a different currency for the repayment of the debt could turn against them.



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October 14, 2016, 04:36:57 AM
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the best time for you to invest into the bitcoins are the lowest points of the bitcoin becuase we need to know what the price will do in the future than we know if we are
going to buy new coins or not you know.
I can't take the main point of your sentences, for buying in the lowest rate of bitcoin are not forever good for us, because we can't expected about the future of rate and can imagine, and like your said, dude.

Agree with you , im somehow quite confused on what he said but  lowest  point  of bitcoin wont happen anytime soon and   if that thing  would actually come then bitcoin maybe  in a  crisis or into a big problem.  Borrowing money would be useful if you uses it  to a certain investment which you could somehow assure yourselve to be profitable  on the  long run  but   when you tend to invest  on bitcoin the  profits would  not be good as well and able to repay your  borrowed money to someone.

Borrowing money for  putting up into a  investment is not  a bad idea at all  because  you could able to make profits  with it and  you must really assure that because if your investment would  give you  negative profits  then you would surely suffer  much more  problem on the long run.

Here in my country there is a practice like that , people borrows momey for business purposes.

But it has to be sort of effective business and demand here like food business etc. where the profits is sure for long term.
People  are different  in any way, either  on which country they  live and  also to their decisions and will. You are right some  have   plans to loan a money to make  businesses which they could assure themselves that they could able to repay the loan hence they  have business profits to rely on.



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October 14, 2016, 08:31:17 AM
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the best time for you to invest into the bitcoins are the lowest points of the bitcoin becuase we need to know what the price will do in the future than we know if we are
going to buy new coins or not you know.
I can't take the main point of your sentences, for buying in the lowest rate of bitcoin are not forever good for us, because we can't expected about the future of rate and can imagine, and like your said, dude.

Agree with you , im somehow quite confused on what he said but  lowest  point  of bitcoin wont happen anytime soon and   if that thing  would actually come then bitcoin maybe  in a  crisis or into a big problem.  Borrowing money would be useful if you uses it  to a certain investment which you could somehow assure yourselve to be profitable  on the  long run  but   when you tend to invest  on bitcoin the  profits would  not be good as well and able to repay your  borrowed money to someone.

Borrowing money for  putting up into a  investment is not  a bad idea at all  because  you could able to make profits  with it and  you must really assure that because if your investment would  give you  negative profits  then you would surely suffer  much more  problem on the long run.

Here in my country there is a practice like that , people borrows momey for business purposes.

But it has to be sort of effective business and demand here like food business etc. where the profits is sure for long term.
People  are different  in any way, either  on which country they  live and  also to their decisions and will. You are right some  have   plans to loan a money to make  businesses which they could assure themselves that they could able to repay the loan hence they  have business profits to rely on.


Thats great idea loaning money for business purposes is really a great one, since we can make sure that we are going on right side for barrowing it since we can possibly make our loaned money turn to millions. But it will go bad if the business type you will made is illegal and unsured experimental ones since we might gonna lose our money for that certain matter and we can surely compromise for just one wrong move we gonna make.


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October 14, 2016, 02:06:14 PM
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Borrowing bitcoins can best be done when you have the price at the lowest point you know lots of people are inveting into the bitcoin when the price
is at lowest becuase when he is going to rise they make more profit.

Even the price will be on the lowest price I think that is not even going to helpful because as we know the price of bitcoin is very unstable and fluctuation is happening daily. So if you are going to borrow at very low price and the price suddenly fluctuates to higher price then you are going to pay your borrowed bitcoin higher plus interest rates.

It also depends on the situation. But I always see that the growth of the bitcoin will give a positive impact to the users who have good beliefs, indeed all the things that are not necessarily risk we know. But it's all we can eliminate a very positive way or contribute best to the thing


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October 14, 2016, 02:32:22 PM
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Getting a loan is too risky because there are consequences that you will going to face if you can not pay the loan that you've asked in time. Let's go back to your question about when it is useful to borrow bitcoin? I think the best time that is useful to borrow bitcoin if you know that it's price is going to go up again, I mean if you have an instinct and you are really sure about it's price that is going up in that day or maybe the other day something like that because if you are right from your expectations, you can get a high profit from it.

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October 14, 2016, 02:34:02 PM
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When is it useful to borrow bitcoin? Considering that it is really hard to get a loan here on this forum even with escrow, and the plentiful amount of scammers floating around here, is there really a great reason to even bother getting a loan here? I mean unless you're flat broke I could understand but even still it's an uphill battle. It's way easier to take out a cash advance in an emergency. I suppose if you're dealing with a trusted borrower and trustworthy escrow you may have a chance in obtaining your funds. Other than that, it can be difficult for a scam-less transaction to take place.

Probably never, becaause bitcoin is a deflationary market, and if you borrow 1 btc at 200$ market price.

Then you use the 200$ to buy whatever, then if the btc price goes to 1 million $, then you owe 1 million $ which you cant pay from your salary.

Only inflationary currencies are worth using for credits like EUR,USD,JPY, and the rest of the fiat which is devalued and printed like crazy.

Bitcoin's price is volatile. It may be not fit to the large amount of loan. But it is for small amount and short term lending. But it will be different. If the borrowers are invovled in bitcoin business, not expose to the rate flucatuation risk, they may consider it a good option, like IPO, ICO,  crowdfunding for bitcoin or altcoins related business.

Sure that one is good. I mean everytime you exchange bitcoin into an altcoin or fiat, you are exposed to exchange risk.

But that is not necessarly a long term investment, its not even a loan, its just a pure short term startup/investment.

But most people take personal loans not business loans, which dont generate money, but generate huge liability after.
Taking those into consideration big loans people usually consider the rating into dollars and not bitcoin soo lets say i lend 1 btc 600 dollars with repayment of 630 in 30 days, if bitcoin price raises you will send me less coins then i sent you, people are smart, this is the way they proceed, but who does lend may ask to get paid into bitcoin and not dollars.
That is smart but if you lend bitcoins I think the natural thing to do for a lender is to want bitcoins back as well after all the lender wants to earn some money out of the trade and choosing a different currency for the repayment of the debt could turn against them.
Not all the lenders does accept such, and in the general when they do this they charge a bigger fee, because they know the intention from the loan. I just lend with bitcoin if it is worthing 10k or 600 dollars it doesnt matter i do charge for the time and the ammount of loan into bitcoin, as all should do to avoid loose the coins.


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Thats great idea loaning money for business purposes is really a great one, since we can make sure that we are going on right side for barrowing it since we can possibly make our loaned money turn to millions. But it will go bad if the business type you will made is illegal and unsured experimental ones since we might gonna lose our money for that certain matter and we can surely compromise for just one wrong move we gonna make.

Honestly before I set up my small business, it came uo from a loan. A long term loan which the lender agrees to the term. Yes the interest is quite high but I able to pay it now and now getting continous profit out of it.

So for now, I have a business, a real life job and bitcoin job. Hard work really pays off.

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October 14, 2016, 03:20:35 PM
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Borrowing bitcoin is as dangerous as borrowing money never do it unless you have to do see a good chance you can make money with.
Be careful when borrowing out money aswell cause it's very easy to get scammed always research the person first and make a contract
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Borrowing bitcoin is as dangerous as borrowing money never do it unless you have to do see a good chance you can make money with.
Be careful when borrowing out money aswell cause it's very easy to get scammed always research the person first and make a contract

Borrowing money means you will receive the money.

Maye you are talking about lending the money since lenders will take the risk of not being paid back. But with a proper collateral that have much worth the value than the amount they lend, everything will be fine and no worries if the borrower goes wrong.

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October 14, 2016, 05:27:09 PM
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Borrowing is dangerous in my opinion and I would always advice against doing so, but sometimes you get a very nice chance to make some money for example. If that chance is a 100% guarantee then I'd borrow money if needed.
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October 14, 2016, 10:43:21 PM
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the best time for you to invest into the bitcoins are the lowest points of the bitcoin becuase we need to know what the price will do in the future than we know if we are
going to buy new coins or not you know.
I can't take the main point of your sentences, for buying in the lowest rate of bitcoin are not forever good for us, because we can't expected about the future of rate and can imagine, and like your said, dude.

Agree with you , im somehow quite confused on what he said but  lowest  point  of bitcoin wont happen anytime soon and   if that thing  would actually come then bitcoin maybe  in a  crisis or into a big problem.  Borrowing money would be useful if you uses it  to a certain investment which you could somehow assure yourselve to be profitable  on the  long run  but   when you tend to invest  on bitcoin the  profits would  not be good as well and able to repay your  borrowed money to someone.

Borrowing money for  putting up into a  investment is not  a bad idea at all  because  you could able to make profits  with it and  you must really assure that because if your investment would  give you  negative profits  then you would surely suffer  much more  problem on the long run.

Here in my country there is a practice like that , people borrows momey for business purposes.

But it has to be sort of effective business and demand here like food business etc. where the profits is sure for long term.
People  are different  in any way, either  on which country they  live and  also to their decisions and will. You are right some  have   plans to loan a money to make  businesses which they could assure themselves that they could able to repay the loan hence they  have business profits to rely on.


Thats great idea loaning money for business purposes is really a great one, since we can make sure that we are going on right side for barrowing it since we can possibly make our loaned money turn to millions. But it will go bad if the business type you will made is illegal and unsured experimental ones since we might gonna lose our money for that certain matter and we can surely compromise for just one wrong move we gonna make.
While investing in trusted and known businesses is a good idea we must not forget that some of the greatest investments ever were risky stuff, just look at bitcoin early investors probably made a fortune out of bitcoin by investing in this new technology.



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October 16, 2016, 06:36:18 AM
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Borrowing bitcoin is never so useful. Borrowing money always costs money so if you talking about efficiency it's only efficient if you can make alot of money with the money you borrowed somehow.
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Borrowing bitcoin is never so useful. Borrowing money always costs money so if you talking about efficiency it's only efficient if you can make alot of money with the money you borrowed somehow.
The interest and the day of payback are becoming the worst thing for using the borrowed amount in this time, and too many people never think about that and always using that way for getting some amount and in my mind, that is not an effective way.

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October 16, 2016, 01:22:29 PM
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Borrowing bitcoin is as dangerous as borrowing money never do it unless you have to do see a good chance you can make money with.
Be careful when borrowing out money aswell cause it's very easy to get scammed always research the person first and make a contract
I agree and i am also not in favour of borrowing any kind of money weather its a bitcoin or fiat money,yes it is dangerous.There can be no good time to borrow bitcoins because it always get you trouble,increasing interest and taking another loan to repay that,just gonna increase your debt and problems.
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October 17, 2016, 04:08:41 AM
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Borrowing bitcoin is never so useful. Borrowing money always costs money so if you talking about efficiency it's only efficient if you can make alot of money with the money you borrowed somehow.

There are some cases that borrowing bitcoin is going to be useful and that is going to be helpful to those traders that badly needs to add and cover up some capital. That is why they are borrowing bitcoins but for me, I don't borrow bitcoin and even fiat money. I don't want to pay with interests rate, I will just going to work for it if I need it.

If I better not borrow because every business that we undertake risks, there is definitely a fear after we borrow and we don't get any profits will be puzzled to pay


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October 17, 2016, 05:19:21 AM
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Borrowing is always risky. Lot of users with the hope and dreams of earning through gambling borrow bitcoin. It involves two major factors the difference in value of bitcoin at the time of borrowing as well while repaying the borrowed bitcoin. Its better to borrow bitcoin or money to promote business to the next level, which is already running successfully.

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October 17, 2016, 05:53:29 AM
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Borrowing is always risky. Lot of users with the hope and dreams of earning through gambling borrow bitcoin. It involves two major factors the difference in value of bitcoin at the time of borrowing as well while repaying the borrowed bitcoin. Its better to borrow bitcoin or money to promote business to the next level, which is already running successfully.

For me when it is needed in my financial in my life because you have savings in this industry that is why it is very useful to use it when times of needed. After all you can earn as much as you want because you have stable income in there industry like trading, investing, faucet, forum and gambling. Too many opportunity by this matter.
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October 17, 2016, 09:58:36 AM
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Special advice from me. it is not useful to barrow Bitcoin or any other ALT coins at all with interest even for 0.01 percent i tried before and i lost .
But if you find someone will lend you for 0 interest you can go for it.
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October 17, 2016, 03:31:31 PM
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Special advice from me. it is not useful to barrow Bitcoin or any other ALT coins at all with interest even for 0.01 percent i tried before and i lost .
But if you find someone will lend you for 0 interest you can go for it.

Even on  0 interest   as long you dont  know  on what to do with your borrowed  money  for sure you would  still suffer  debts .  Its better not  to  borrow at all as  long    you have the money to  invest or  put o. Borrowing money is  only for last resort  if there no other  thing  or choice that  you could make.






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