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August 03, 2015, 07:20:11 PM
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Well its all in the subject. Apologies if this has been discussed before, and feel free to trash it and point me to a bigger thread and I'll bump it in affirmation.

It should be obvious why this is not such a good thing for this particular subforum.
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August 03, 2015, 10:36:49 PM
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I think that self moderation is only used for one thing - to delete posts if someone criticizing OP. People rarely spam to the point that Op needs to delete their posts from thread.
If someone is spamming really hard he would be banned by Forum Staff anyway. I am not sure if that 'self moderate option' is needed at all.


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August 04, 2015, 04:37:28 AM
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I think it depends on what the content of the thread is. A company should be able to clean up its own threads when required (ie Spondoolies deleting some racist stuff) and its not as if someone can't start a mirrored non moderated thread alongside it. Editorialised threads with an agenda however, shouldn't.

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August 04, 2015, 05:37:57 AM
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This subject has been debated to death. If you think some one is scamming, make a post about it in the scam accusation area, or leave them a trust rating. Self moderated threads are unfortunately needed here because trading here is like trying to do business on 4chan, and the mods rarely give a shit about people trolling marketplace ops.
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August 04, 2015, 04:03:25 PM
Last edit: August 04, 2015, 04:49:09 PM by LordPaco
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I think it depends on what the content of the thread is. A company should be able to clean up its own threads when required (ie Spondoolies deleting some racist stuff) and its not as if someone can't start a mirrored non moderated thread alongside it. Editorialised threads with an agenda however, shouldn't.

I can agree with that, but we are far enough along the timeline of bitcoin, that a company specifically in the business of producing mining hardware should ask a mod to 'promote' the thread to that level. Or better yet, mods should have the ability to remove the self moderation for obvious scam attempts. We are past the time when bitcoin hardware manufacturers are starting in garages with similar resources. We prepare the ground as too fertile for scammers. Case in point which has me posting this: Cloudthink.io's obvious scam they are pulling in the hardware forum. Yes anyone with a little bit of research will see these guys are full of it, but we shouldn't allow them a platform they can use to sucker newbies and censor their whistleblowers.

This subject has been debated to death. If you think some one is scamming, make a post about it in the scam accusation area, or leave them a trust rating. Self moderated threads are unfortunately needed here because trading here is like trying to do business on 4chan, and the mods rarely give a shit about people trolling marketplace ops.

I can see other subforums the ability to self moderate would come in handy. I think the hardware subforum itself should be held to a higher standard. I think it is moderated quite well with mods there, for good reason, it needs it.
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August 04, 2015, 08:03:15 PM
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So you think we should get rid of self moderated threads. So we should just do what you think "just cuz"? Care to, I dunno give reasons why this is a good idea, or should we just take your word for it and change something that has already been debated extensively because you don't like it?
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August 04, 2015, 08:09:33 PM
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self moderation must only give only one access to the OP which is deleting replies which are spammy .
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August 04, 2015, 08:20:08 PM
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self moderation must only give only one access to the OP which is deleting replies which are spammy .

The whole reason self moderated threads were created is because mods don't have enough time/don't care to moderate marketplace threads. Under your new rubric here we once again depend on mods to make these choices. You are going backwards.
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August 04, 2015, 08:31:23 PM
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self moderation must only give only one access to the OP which is deleting replies which are spammy .

The whole reason self moderated threads were created is because mods don't have enough time/don't care to moderate marketplace threads. Under your new rubric here we once again depend on mods to make these choices. You are going backwards.

Well this makes sense , but sometimes it went wrong if something is wrong in the topic and an experienced user like you spot something wrong or which seems to be not correct and posted and he immediately delete your post because you found a bug/error/fault in his product.
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August 04, 2015, 09:04:01 PM
Last edit: August 04, 2015, 09:36:48 PM by LordPaco
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So you think we should get rid of self moderated threads. So we should just do what you think "just cuz"? Care to, I dunno give reasons why this is a good idea, or should we just take your word for it and change something that has already been debated extensively because you don't like it?

I'm only stating my opinion, and again, I am asking for this only for the hardware subforum. And again it would not have to be elimated, but maybe applied for when the need arises. You can keep your marketplace forum as you want. The hardware subforum should be held to a higher standard. I already stated a very valid reason: just look at the self moderated cloudthink.io scam thread ongoing there.

Yes you can post in scam accusations but the ones that need that kind of help are the ones most likely not to know that subforum is even there.

I can see a point that the person is asking to be stolen from for being that stupid, but I will never agree that the scammer deserves the proceeds. Unchanged we will see them use this method yet again.
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August 04, 2015, 11:19:35 PM
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Just don't trust anyone who creates self moderated threads if you wish? Or, only trust vetted companies that choose to use self moderation, or trust no one. Its really up to personal preference. What creating a self moderated thread says about an individual varies based on individual perception.
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August 04, 2015, 11:36:12 PM
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I'm thinking for someone new here, the most vulnerable, won't appreciate or know the difference one way or the other. These people prey on the naive and self moderation in the hardware subforum serves as a great conduit to market their con.
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August 05, 2015, 01:24:25 AM
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A fool and his money will always be parted. It has been this way since money existed. It doesn't make it right, but it is a fact.
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