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August 05, 2015, 01:32:35 AM
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It’s estimated that more than 14 million devices are running Windows 10 after Microsoft rolled out its new operating system last week.
But an updated privacy statement released shortly afterwards says Microsoft can collect users’ information from private emails, address books and other files.
The move has angered watchdogs which say it is ‘bad news for privacy,’ but Microsoft says it does not collect data without users’ consent.


Within 45 pages of terms and conditions, the privacy information suggests Microsoft begins watching from when an account is created, saving customer’s basic information, passwords and credit card details, Newsweek reported.
The tech giant is also said to save Bing search queries and conversations with Cortana, as well as lists of which websites and apps users visit and the contents of private emails and files, as well as their handwriting


The privacy statement says: ‘your typed and handwritten words are collected.’
The policy adds that Microsoft collects information about a user’s speech and handwriting to ‘help improve and personalise our ability to correctly recognise your input,’ while information from their contacts book is used, such as names and calendar events ‘to better recognise people and events when you dictate messages or documents’.
Cortana, for example, makes use of information about who a user calls on their phone, plus data from their emails and texts, calendar and contacts, as well as their web history and location.


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-3184827/Is-Microsoft-reading-emails-Windows-10-threaten-privacy-watchdogs-warn.html
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Windows 10 May Share Your Wi-Fi Password with Facebook

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If you're taking up Microsoft on its offer of a free upgrade to Windows 10, you should know that the new operating system has a feature, called Wi-Fi Sense, that automatically shares your Wi-Fi passwords with others.

When Wi-Fi Sense is enabled, anyone you have in your Skype, Outlook or Hotmail contacts lists — and any of your Facebook friends — can be granted access to your Wi-Fi network as long as they're within range.
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The other problem is that Wi-Fi Sense lets you share access to more networks than just your own. You can share access to any network that you got onto the old-fashioned way — by typing in the password. Wi-Fi Sense doesn't distinguish between your home network, your office network or your grandmother's home network. If you typed in the password, they're all fair game.

Personally, we're going to ask that people never enable Wi-Fi Share if they bring a Windows 10 laptop or tablet — or a handset running Windows Phone 8, which also has the feature — into our house. We keep our password, which is somewhat complicated, taped to our home router for anyone who needs it.

Once Wi-Fi Share-enablers have typed that password into their Windows 10 devices, all of their friends can access our home network if they're within range. Even though we trust our friends and family, we haven't spent time with all of their contacts and Facebook friends, and we have no idea whether they're trustworthy.


From the Terms of Service:

"Finally, we will access, disclose and preserve personal data, including your content (such as the content of your emails, other private communications or files in private folders), when we have a good faith belief that doing so is necessary to: 1.comply with applicable law or respond to valid legal process, including from law enforcement or other government agencies; 2.protect our customers, for example to prevent spam or attempts to defraud users of the services, or to help prevent the loss of life or serious injury of anyone;"

In other words, the police don't need a warrant anymore, they just have to ask.
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August 05, 2015, 02:04:57 AM
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Windows 10 May Share Your Wi-Fi Password with Facebook

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If you're taking up Microsoft on its offer of a free upgrade to Windows 10, you should know that the new operating system has a feature, called Wi-Fi Sense, that automatically shares your Wi-Fi passwords with others.

When Wi-Fi Sense is enabled, anyone you have in your Skype, Outlook or Hotmail contacts lists — and any of your Facebook friends — can be granted access to your Wi-Fi network as long as they're within range.
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The other problem is that Wi-Fi Sense lets you share access to more networks than just your own. You can share access to any network that you got onto the old-fashioned way — by typing in the password. Wi-Fi Sense doesn't distinguish between your home network, your office network or your grandmother's home network. If you typed in the password, they're all fair game.

Personally, we're going to ask that people never enable Wi-Fi Share if they bring a Windows 10 laptop or tablet — or a handset running Windows Phone 8, which also has the feature — into our house. We keep our password, which is somewhat complicated, taped to our home router for anyone who needs it.

Once Wi-Fi Share-enablers have typed that password into their Windows 10 devices, all of their friends can access our home network if they're within range. Even though we trust our friends and family, we haven't spent time with all of their contacts and Facebook friends, and we have no idea whether they're trustworthy.


From the Terms of Service:

"Finally, we will access, disclose and preserve personal data, including your content (such as the content of your emails, other private communications or files in private folders), when we have a good faith belief that doing so is necessary to: 1.comply with applicable law or respond to valid legal process, including from law enforcement or other government agencies; 2.protect our customers, for example to prevent spam or attempts to defraud users of the services, or to help prevent the loss of life or serious injury of anyone;"

In other words, the police don't need a warrant anymore, they just have to ask.

Can I get a link to the said terms?

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August 05, 2015, 02:21:44 AM
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Windows 10 May Share Your Wi-Fi Password with Facebook

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If you're taking up Microsoft on its offer of a free upgrade to Windows 10, you should know that the new operating system has a feature, called Wi-Fi Sense, that automatically shares your Wi-Fi passwords with others.

When Wi-Fi Sense is enabled, anyone you have in your Skype, Outlook or Hotmail contacts lists — and any of your Facebook friends — can be granted access to your Wi-Fi network as long as they're within range.
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The other problem is that Wi-Fi Sense lets you share access to more networks than just your own. You can share access to any network that you got onto the old-fashioned way — by typing in the password. Wi-Fi Sense doesn't distinguish between your home network, your office network or your grandmother's home network. If you typed in the password, they're all fair game.

Personally, we're going to ask that people never enable Wi-Fi Share if they bring a Windows 10 laptop or tablet — or a handset running Windows Phone 8, which also has the feature — into our house. We keep our password, which is somewhat complicated, taped to our home router for anyone who needs it.

Once Wi-Fi Share-enablers have typed that password into their Windows 10 devices, all of their friends can access our home network if they're within range. Even though we trust our friends and family, we haven't spent time with all of their contacts and Facebook friends, and we have no idea whether they're trustworthy.


From the Terms of Service:

"Finally, we will access, disclose and preserve personal data, including your content (such as the content of your emails, other private communications or files in private folders), when we have a good faith belief that doing so is necessary to: 1.comply with applicable law or respond to valid legal process, including from law enforcement or other government agencies; 2.protect our customers, for example to prevent spam or attempts to defraud users of the services, or to help prevent the loss of life or serious injury of anyone;"

In other words, the police don't need a warrant anymore, they just have to ask.

Can I get a link to the said terms?

https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/privacystatement/default.aspx

http://bgr.com/2015/07/29/windows-10-privacy-issues/

http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/windows-10-how-get-around-microsofts-privacy-policy-1513874
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August 05, 2015, 02:26:49 AM
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There is an entire section in settings called privacy where you can tweak what you are willing to share.

Granted, most people won't bother to change the default settings and will indeed share a bunch of info. I would prefer it if software was privacy minded from the start and you had to make changes in order to reduce privacy. Most people don't give a rats ass for privacy and happily share everything through facebook anyway, so I guess it's tailored for the average consumer.

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August 05, 2015, 07:46:52 AM
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Windows 10 May Share Your Wi-Fi Password with Facebook

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If you're taking up Microsoft on its offer of a free upgrade to Windows 10, you should know that the new operating system has a feature, called Wi-Fi Sense, that automatically shares your Wi-Fi passwords with others.

When Wi-Fi Sense is enabled, anyone you have in your Skype, Outlook or Hotmail contacts lists — and any of your Facebook friends — can be granted access to your Wi-Fi network as long as they're within range.
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The other problem is that Wi-Fi Sense lets you share access to more networks than just your own. You can share access to any network that you got onto the old-fashioned way — by typing in the password. Wi-Fi Sense doesn't distinguish between your home network, your office network or your grandmother's home network. If you typed in the password, they're all fair game.

Personally, we're going to ask that people never enable Wi-Fi Share if they bring a Windows 10 laptop or tablet — or a handset running Windows Phone 8, which also has the feature — into our house. We keep our password, which is somewhat complicated, taped to our home router for anyone who needs it.

Once Wi-Fi Share-enablers have typed that password into their Windows 10 devices, all of their friends can access our home network if they're within range. Even though we trust our friends and family, we haven't spent time with all of their contacts and Facebook friends, and we have no idea whether they're trustworthy.


From the Terms of Service:

"Finally, we will access, disclose and preserve personal data, including your content (such as the content of your emails, other private communications or files in private folders), when we have a good faith belief that doing so is necessary to: 1.comply with applicable law or respond to valid legal process, including from law enforcement or other government agencies; 2.protect our customers, for example to prevent spam or attempts to defraud users of the services, or to help prevent the loss of life or serious injury of anyone;"

In other words, the police don't need a warrant anymore, they just have to ask.

Can I get a link to the said terms?

https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/privacystatement/default.aspx

http://bgr.com/2015/07/29/windows-10-privacy-issues/

http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/windows-10-how-get-around-microsofts-privacy-policy-1513874

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August 05, 2015, 09:42:04 AM
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By default (with the express settings) W10 seems to be quite inquisitive and talkative. I've found a quick howto on Reddit about strengthening privacy on Windows 10: https://www.reddit.com/r/Windows10/comments/3f38ed/guide_how_to_disable_data_logging_in_w10/
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By default (with the express settings) W10 seems to be quite inquisitive and talkative. I've found a quick howto on Reddit about strengthening privacy on Windows 10: https://www.reddit.com/r/Windows10/comments/3f38ed/guide_how_to_disable_data_logging_in_w10/

As the best way to not get pregnant is to not have sex, the best way to keep your privacy is to not install Windows 10.
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As the best way to not get pregnant is to not have sex, the best way to keep your privacy is to not install Windows 10.

That's maybe a too high price for avoiding pregnancy Smiley. Do you think your Android or IOS stuff is any better? Clearly not. So using Windows 10 not going to harm your (hypothetical) privacy if you do some research and reconfigure it for your privacy needs.
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As the best way to not get pregnant is to not have sex, the best way to keep your privacy is to not install Windows 10.

That's maybe a too high price for avoiding pregnancy Smiley. Do you think your Android or IOS stuff is any better? Clearly not. So using Windows 10 not going to harm your (hypothetical) privacy if you do some research and reconfigure it for your privacy needs.

And that's why there are so many abortions. Feel free to use it, I've already warned my family not to though.

One thing I mentioned earlier was the fact that they give away your wifi passwords, which can be given from your friends to their friends and so on. Yes, you have to say yes or else it won't, but how many people out there are going to just hit "yes" without reading the message or what it means? People have been trained to just hit "yes".
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Yep I'll be staying with Windows 7 for the foreseeable future Wink

Looks like they're trying to encourage storing biometric info, can't say I'd be too keen on using my ugly mug to unlock my pc.

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http://www.engadget.com/2015/03/17/windows-hello/
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Yep, it does.

By default (with the express settings) W10 seems to be quite inquisitive and talkative. I've found a quick howto on Reddit about strengthening privacy on Windows 10: https://www.reddit.com/r/Windows10/comments/3f38ed/guide_how_to_disable_data_logging_in_w10/

Good one, thanks!

Here's another article on what you should do to opt out (and hope that it helps):

https://www.yahoo.com/tech/s/windows-10-spying-almost-everything-opt-130502898.html

I have free upgrades for my Win7 machines lined up, but now I wonder if I should just stay on 7. And why were they giving free upgrades right left and centre like that anyway?

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Yep, it does.

By default (with the express settings) W10 seems to be quite inquisitive and talkative. I've found a quick howto on Reddit about strengthening privacy on Windows 10: https://www.reddit.com/r/Windows10/comments/3f38ed/guide_how_to_disable_data_logging_in_w10/

Good one, thanks!

Here's another article on what you should opt out (and hope that it helps):

https://www.yahoo.com/tech/s/windows-10-spying-almost-everything-opt-130502898.html

I have free upgrades for my Win7 machines lined up, but now I wonder if I should just stay on 7. And why were they giving free upgrades right left and centre like that anyway?

I believe they're also available for those with pirated versions.... it does make you wonder why, right? Wink
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Okay...... I don't like where this is going...

http://www.forbes.com/sites/gordonkelly/2015/05/12/free-windows-10-has-high-cost/

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Yes, Windows 10 will be the last numbered version of the OS and going forward it will simply become a ‘Windows’ subscription service. This upsets those who don’t like the idea of a subscription service, but the biggest concern is this: while Windows 10 will seamlessly upgrade to ‘Windows’ – this is a new beginning. Your OS would evolve into a new product for which you have to pay.


http://www.forbes.com/sites/gordonkelly/2015/05/08/microsoft-windows-10-last-windows/
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“Windows will be delivered as a service bringing new innovations and updates in an ongoing manner, with continuous value for our consumer and business customers,” explained Microsoft in its full statement to the Verge. “We aren’t speaking to future branding at this time, but customers can be confident Windows 10 will remain up-to-date and power a variety of devices from PCs to phones to Surface Hub to HoloLens and Xbox. We look forward to a long future of Windows innovations.”


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August 05, 2015, 09:54:22 PM
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Yep, it does.

By default (with the express settings) W10 seems to be quite inquisitive and talkative. I've found a quick howto on Reddit about strengthening privacy on Windows 10: https://www.reddit.com/r/Windows10/comments/3f38ed/guide_how_to_disable_data_logging_in_w10/

Good one, thanks!

Here's another article on what you should opt out (and hope that it helps):

https://www.yahoo.com/tech/s/windows-10-spying-almost-everything-opt-130502898.html

I have free upgrades for my Win7 machines lined up, but now I wonder if I should just stay on 7. And why were they giving free upgrades right left and centre like that anyway?

I believe they're also available for those with pirated versions.... it does make you wonder why, right? Wink

Nobody does business to lose money, Microsoft has to capitalize on something from Windows 10, which in my opinion is your private information.
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Okay...... I don't like where this is going...

http://www.forbes.com/sites/gordonkelly/2015/05/12/free-windows-10-has-high-cost/

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Yes, Windows 10 will be the last numbered version of the OS and going forward it will simply become a ‘Windows’ subscription service. This upsets those who don’t like the idea of a subscription service, but the biggest concern is this: while Windows 10 will seamlessly upgrade to ‘Windows’ – this is a new beginning. Your OS would evolve into a new product for which you have to pay.


http://www.forbes.com/sites/gordonkelly/2015/05/08/microsoft-windows-10-last-windows/
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“Windows will be delivered as a service bringing new innovations and updates in an ongoing manner, with continuous value for our consumer and business customers,” explained Microsoft in its full statement to the Verge. “We aren’t speaking to future branding at this time, but customers can be confident Windows 10 will remain up-to-date and power a variety of devices from PCs to phones to Surface Hub to HoloLens and Xbox. We look forward to a long future of Windows innovations.”



I just have to laugh. I actually was talking to one person, whom I had told to not upgrade. He said he doesn't like the idea that this is what it will be with Windows in the future. I said we can stay with Windows 7 or Vista, and if we get a new computer, use our Windows 7/Vista disks to put on the new computer.

I personally have one Ubuntu, which I would recommend. I can see this being a problem in about 10 years, when most have lost their disks or newer programs just won't work with it. But I see this as a time for people to make the switch to Ubuntu, personally.

If enough people make the switch and start using Ubuntu programs (equivalent to MS programs), maybe MS will change their mind when people leave... maybe it's a long shot for the general public, but I know I'd pick Ubuntu over Windows 10 everytime.


Nobody does business to lose money, Microsoft has to capitalize on something from Windows 10, which in my opinion is your private information.

And maybe when enough people get caught by the police without a warrant, they'll switch too...
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August 05, 2015, 10:13:01 PM
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One aspect of Win10:

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Siri, is that you, or are you Binder in disguise?  Cheesy

Let your information flow from you....

I used Linux a lot at one point. Anyone heard of Slackware 2.1?  Grin Might be time to give Linux a shot again.

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“We are only as strong as we are united, as weak as we are divided.”
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August 07, 2015, 11:43:58 AM
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Looks like Windows 10 is going to charge $15 for the privilege of using their DVD player:

http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/gadgets-and-tech/news/windows-10-microsoft-charges-15-to-watch-dvds-on-new-operating-system-10442460.html

Seems a bit expensive when you can just install a free superior DVD player at no extra cost. One more nail in the coffin for Mr Gates.
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August 07, 2015, 01:21:13 PM
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Looks like Windows 10 is going to charge $15 for the privilege of using their DVD player:

http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/gadgets-and-tech/news/windows-10-microsoft-charges-15-to-watch-dvds-on-new-operating-system-10442460.html

Seems a bit expensive when you can just install a free superior DVD player at no extra cost. One more nail in the coffin for Mr Gates.

Mr Gates has already cashed out.  Wink

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“We are only as strong as we are united, as weak as we are divided.”
“It is important to fight and fight again, and keep fighting, for only then can evil be kept at bay, though never quite eradicated.”
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August 07, 2015, 01:32:48 PM
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Looks like Windows 10 is going to charge $15 for the privilege of using their DVD player:

http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/gadgets-and-tech/news/windows-10-microsoft-charges-15-to-watch-dvds-on-new-operating-system-10442460.html

Seems a bit expensive when you can just install a free superior DVD player at no extra cost. One more nail in the coffin for Mr Gates.

And solitaire too, lol. Might as well find your deck of cards and just play in real life.

Windows 10: users asked to pay subscription fee for Microsoft Solitaire
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