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October 01, 2012, 12:34:49 AM |
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Title says it all.
From what I've seen bitcoin mining is much easier to set up and get it working, while litecoin mining is much more underdeveloped, especially for GPUs.
Is it still more profitable than bitcoin mining like it once was? Or should I stick with bitcoins?
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BCMan
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October 01, 2012, 12:38:55 AM |
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So far Bitcoin for gpus is a little more profitable. Can't say about cpus, not mining on them.
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October 01, 2012, 01:10:16 AM |
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So far Bitcoin for gpus is a little more profitable. Can't say about cpus, not mining on them.
nice try http://coinotron.com/
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October 01, 2012, 01:23:27 AM |
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Coinotron isn't counting in all the chains one can merged-mine alongside bitcoin though by the look of it.
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October 01, 2012, 01:51:25 AM |
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OP asked about mining Litecoin, and that is about 1.4 times as profitable using AMD GPUs, so that particular post was particulary misleading. And Litecoin will never be merged mined ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif)
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BCMan
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October 01, 2012, 03:08:28 AM |
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OP asked about mining Litecoin, and that is about 1.4 times as profitable using AMD GPUs, so that particular post was particulary misleading. And Litecoin will never be merged mined ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif) Coinotron stats is a BS. Calculate yourself, wheres more profit, for example my hardware 960 khash LC vs 1020 mhash BC. Who wins?
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October 01, 2012, 03:36:57 AM |
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OP asked about mining Litecoin, and that is about 1.4 times as profitable using AMD GPUs, so that particular post was particulary misleading. And Litecoin will never be merged mined ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif) Coinotron stats is a BS. Calculate yourself, wheres more profit, for example my hardware 960 khash LC vs 1020 mhash BC. Who wins? I can't see how raw Hashes/Second can be relevant to profitability.
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October 01, 2012, 03:59:13 AM |
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I guess I'll stick with bitcoin as not to jeopardize that guy's profitability on his litecoin. ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif)
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October 01, 2012, 04:05:09 AM |
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I guess I'll stick with bitcoin as not to jeopardize that guy's profitability on his litecoin. ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) hahaha
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BCMan
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October 01, 2012, 04:07:47 AM |
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OP asked about mining Litecoin, and that is about 1.4 times as profitable using AMD GPUs, so that particular post was particulary misleading. And Litecoin will never be merged mined ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif) Coinotron stats is a BS. Calculate yourself, wheres more profit, for example my hardware 960 khash LC vs 1020 mhash BC. Who wins? I can't see how raw Hashes/Second can be relevant to profitability. OMG. facepalm.jpg Ok. http://ltc.kattare.com/calc.php 960 khash = 87.0478 LTC PPS or 0.3421 ฿ per 24h 1020 mhash = 0.358 ฿ PPS per 24h Understandable enough? Now go mine litecoins.
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October 01, 2012, 04:09:11 AM |
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People think so short-term. Back in May of this year mining litecoins was "unprofitable" if you sold right away. But if you held for a few months you could have sold for 10 times more than if you sold right away.
Think longer-term in terms of profitability. Bitcoin did the same thing early on. It was mined at a loss. And now look at the price.
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October 01, 2012, 04:17:20 AM |
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OP asked about mining Litecoin, and that is about 1.4 times as profitable using AMD GPUs, so that particular post was particulary misleading. And Litecoin will never be merged mined ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif) Coinotron stats is a BS. Calculate yourself, wheres more profit, for example my hardware 960 khash LC vs 1020 mhash BC. Who wins? I can't see how raw Hashes/Second can be relevant to profitability. OMG. facepalm.jpg Ok. http://ltc.kattare.com/calc.php 960 khash = 87.0478 LTC PPS or 0.3421 ฿ per 24h 1020 mhash = 0.358 ฿ PPS per 24h Understandable enough? Now go mine litecoins. FYI I don't mine ATM. Mining is generally not profitable for me right now. Now that's interesting how come the coinotron calculator is so far off?
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October 01, 2012, 05:20:24 AM |
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Mining ltc takes 38% more power for me to mine than bitcoin, and so profitability is currently less than for bitcoin. Ignore coinotron, as it neglects cost of power.
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October 01, 2012, 06:59:09 AM |
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Mining ltc takes 38% more power for me to mine than bitcoin, and so profitability is currently less than for bitcoin. Ignore coinotron, as it neglects cost of power.
I had no idea there was a power consumption difference. 38% is a pretty good spread. Any idea why that might be the case?
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October 01, 2012, 07:17:02 AM |
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Litecoin is memory-intensive, whereas you can tune your GPU's memory clocks way way down for mining bitcoins.
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October 01, 2012, 07:28:38 AM |
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That means 38% more heat generation too. Thanks. That's good to know.
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October 01, 2012, 09:13:14 AM Last edit: October 01, 2012, 06:12:32 PM by BCMan |
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Mining ltc takes 38% more power for me to mine than bitcoin, and so profitability is currently less than for bitcoin. Ignore coinotron, as it neglects cost of power.
With my setup energy consumption is a bit lower (same temp, just zero cpu usage), but thats not really matter because I pay 0.056$ per KW/h.
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October 01, 2012, 09:51:10 AM |
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People think so short-term. Back in May of this year mining litecoins was "unprofitable" if you sold right away. But if you held for a few months you could have sold for 10 times more than if you sold right away.
Think longer-term in terms of profitability. Bitcoin did the same thing early on. It was mined at a loss. And now look at the price.
You would have been better off if you had mined bitcoins and immediately bought litecoins with them. It is best to mine the most profitable coin, and then trade for the coin you want to hold long term.
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October 01, 2012, 02:28:18 PM Last edit: October 01, 2012, 02:51:14 PM by tacotime |
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That means 38% more heat generation too. Thanks. That's good to know.
Yes, it's a 15C difference for my 7950s. It's funny 'cause I bought these cards to mne LTC with, but it's cheaper to mine BTC and buy LTC.
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October 02, 2012, 03:19:53 AM |
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Okay, I played around with it a bit tonight.
At 1.081 V on all cards, mem at 300 MHz, core at 1050 MHz, I get ~1620 MH/s on three 7950s at 180W / card.
At 0.931 V on all cards, mem at 1500 MHz, core at 900 MHz, I get ~1500 KH/s on three 7950s at 190W / card.
Heat produced by the two cards is about the same in both cases. Therefore, BTC mining uses 94.7% of the electricity while mining at 8% faster of a rate if you're comparing 1 KH/s to 1 MH/s. So, the damage isn't so bad so long as you undervolt and underclock your card. Beware overclocking/overvolting, as the heat generation with LTC (and subsequent inefficiency) seems to be pretty extreme.
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