#Blocksize Survey

[iCEBREAKER]

Yes, otherwise Xapo would not prefer Switzerland, the most direct democracy. That's always producing better results than feudalist/elitist/sociopath ruled territories.

OK, let's add geography and politics to the list of things about which Zarathustra knows very little.

Switzerland is a confederacy, not a direct democracy.  The have multiple sub-jurisdictions and ultimate power resides in the heavily armed populace of the cantons.

That's all to deal with the fact that majority rule doesn't scale beyond groups of ~100 people (because we can't remember more names/faces and tragedy of the commons + negative marginal returns ensue when we try).

Zar, please say less and listen more, because your colossal ignorance is an embarrassment to the forum, your fail-teachers, and your fail-parents.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Direct_democracy#Switzerland

The pure form of direct democracy only exists in the Swiss cantons of Appenzell Innerrhoden and Glarus.[11] The Swiss confederation is a semi-direct democracy (representative democracy with instruments of direct democracy).

[brg444]

Yes, otherwise Xapo would not prefer Switzerland, the most direct democracy. That's always producing better results than feudalist/elitist/sociopath ruled territories.

OK, let's add geography and politics to the list of things about which Zarathustra knows very little.

Switzerland is a confederacy, not a direct democracy.  The have multiple sub-jurisdictions and ultimate power resides in the heavily armed populace of the cantons.

That's all to deal with the fact that majority rule doesn't scale beyond groups of ~100 people (because we can't remember more names/faces and tragedy of the commons + negative marginal returns ensue when we try).

Zar, please say less and listen more, because your colossal ignorance is an embarrassment to the forum, your fail-teachers, and your fail-parents.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Direct_democracy#Switzerland

The pure form of direct democracy only exists in the Swiss cantons of Appenzell Innerrhoden and Glarus.[11] The Swiss confederation is a semi-direct democracy (representative democracy with instruments of direct democracy).

Let Popescu tell him: http://trilema.com/2015/why-representative-democracy-doesnt-work-and-doesnt-make-sense/

[Zarathustra]

Yes, otherwise Xapo would not prefer Switzerland, the most direct democracy. That's always producing better results than feudalist/elitist/sociopath ruled territories.

OK, let's add geography and politics to the list of things about which Zarathustra knows very little.

Switzerland is a confederacy, not a direct democracy.  The have multiple sub-jurisdictions and ultimate power resides in the heavily armed populace of the cantons.

That's all to deal with the fact that majority rule doesn't scale beyond groups of ~100 people (because we can't remember more names/faces and tragedy of the commons + negative marginal returns ensue when we try).

Zar, please say less and listen more, because your colossal ignorance is an embarrassment to the forum, your fail-teachers, and your fail-parents.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Direct_democracy#Switzerland

The pure form of direct democracy only exists in the Swiss cantons of Appenzell Innerrhoden and Glarus.[11] The Swiss confederation is a semi-direct democracy (representative democracy with instruments of direct democracy).

Ridiculous.
1. I live in Switzerland
2. I spoke twice on that podium in Glarus to the people, until the officials forked me away from the podium
3. Appenzell was the last canton that gave the woman the right to vote
4. Switzerland is the most direct democracy on the planet and that's the reason why companies like Xapo move to this country: The results are better than in elitist/feudalist ruled countries.

Imagine the disaster if people like you, the headbuck, the brg444, the popescu and alikes would rule that country....

[sAt0sHiFanClub]

Let Popescu tell him: http://trilema.com/2015/why-representative-democracy-doesnt-work-and-doesnt-make-sense/

MPfag

[DooMAD]

Yes, otherwise Xapo would not prefer Switzerland, the most direct democracy. That's always producing better results than feudalist/elitist/sociopath ruled territories.

OK, let's add geography and politics to the list of things about which Zarathustra knows very little.

Switzerland is a confederacy, not a direct democracy.  The have multiple sub-jurisdictions and ultimate power resides in the heavily armed populace of the cantons.

That's all to deal with the fact that majority rule doesn't scale beyond groups of ~100 people (because we can't remember more names/faces and tragedy of the commons + negative marginal returns ensue when we try).

Zar, please say less and listen more, because your colossal ignorance is an embarrassment to the forum, your fail-teachers, and your fail-parents.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Direct_democracy#Switzerland

The pure form of direct democracy only exists in the Swiss cantons of Appenzell Innerrhoden and Glarus.[11] The Swiss confederation is a semi-direct democracy (representative democracy with instruments of direct democracy).

Ridiculous.
1. I live in Switzerland
2. I spoke twice on that podium in Glarus to the people, until the officials forked me away from the podium
3. Appenzell was the last canton that gave the woman the right to vote
4. Switzerland is the most direct democracy on the planet and that's the reason why companies like Xapo move to this country: The results are better than in elitist/feudalist ruled countries.

Imagine the disaster if people like you, the headbuck, the brg444, the popescu and alikes would rule that country....

It seems certain people have spent so long hanging on Mircea Popescu's every word, they've completely lost the ability to think rationally for themselves.  And yet they still portray others as the insipid and corrupting influences on Bitcoin.  It'll still be "gavinista" this and "noob" that, never realising who the real cancer is in all this.  I genuinely hope Bitcoin does fork and MP tries to fight it.  I hope he loses every last satoshi in the process.  I have zero respect for anyone with their head crammed up that crackpot's backside.  

[juiceayres]

so we should aim to increase (or decrease) in smaller increments more often, if needed.

That's the point.

Let's think about sustainable development. In 50 years from now (2065) which BIP could potentially work better ?


The answer is: No one knows, bitcoin could become the world currency or a retro geek stuff. The insane part is that BIP101, 102 & 103 just ignore it. Those BIPs can overshoot a lot. For now only BIP105 and 106 are reasonable, and as DooMAD pointed out 105 can give a lot of power to miners.


Do we need a implement now? No, blocks still 400kb and some of them does not have any transaction... This block size wars is just about ego and being the alpha male. It will be resolved quickly if people use  rational thinking.

[hdbuck]

Yes, otherwise Xapo would not prefer Switzerland, the most direct democracy. That's always producing better results than feudalist/elitist/sociopath ruled territories.

OK, let's add geography and politics to the list of things about which Zarathustra knows very little.

Switzerland is a confederacy, not a direct democracy.  The have multiple sub-jurisdictions and ultimate power resides in the heavily armed populace of the cantons.

That's all to deal with the fact that majority rule doesn't scale beyond groups of ~100 people (because we can't remember more names/faces and tragedy of the commons + negative marginal returns ensue when we try).

Zar, please say less and listen more, because your colossal ignorance is an embarrassment to the forum, your fail-teachers, and your fail-parents.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Direct_democracy#Switzerland

The pure form of direct democracy only exists in the Swiss cantons of Appenzell Innerrhoden and Glarus.[11] The Swiss confederation is a semi-direct democracy (representative democracy with instruments of direct democracy).

Ridiculous.
1. I live in Switzerland
2. I spoke twice on that podium in Glarus to the people, until the officials forked me away from the podium
3. Appenzell was the last canton that gave the woman the right to vote
4. Switzerland is the most direct democracy on the planet and that's the reason why companies like Xapo move to this country: The results are better than in elitist/feudalist ruled countries.

Imagine the disaster if people like you, the headbuck, the brg444, the popescu and alikes would rule that country....

lmfao.. nothing to do with banking advantages.

democracy.. lol so overrated.
hello, this word does not describe what it was supposed to etymologically mean anymore.
typical verbal diarrhea. only the sheeples and the statists shills still go for it.

How about just freedom?


sidenote: even Blythe Masters does not want to build a blockchain (or whatever she thinks she is building..) for you peasants.
http://www.marketwatch.com/story/blythe-masters-back-in-business-with-blockchain-for-banks-2015-09-02

[Zarathustra]

Yes, otherwise Xapo would not prefer Switzerland, the most direct democracy. That's always producing better results than feudalist/elitist/sociopath ruled territories.

OK, let's add geography and politics to the list of things about which Zarathustra knows very little.

Switzerland is a confederacy, not a direct democracy.  The have multiple sub-jurisdictions and ultimate power resides in the heavily armed populace of the cantons.

That's all to deal with the fact that majority rule doesn't scale beyond groups of ~100 people (because we can't remember more names/faces and tragedy of the commons + negative marginal returns ensue when we try).

Zar, please say less and listen more, because your colossal ignorance is an embarrassment to the forum, your fail-teachers, and your fail-parents.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Direct_democracy#Switzerland

The pure form of direct democracy only exists in the Swiss cantons of Appenzell Innerrhoden and Glarus.[11] The Swiss confederation is a semi-direct democracy (representative democracy with instruments of direct democracy).

Ridiculous.
1. I live in Switzerland
2. I spoke twice on that podium in Glarus to the people, until the officials forked me away from the podium
3. Appenzell was the last canton that gave the woman the right to vote
4. Switzerland is the most direct democracy on the planet and that's the reason why companies like Xapo move to this country: The results are better than in elitist/feudalist ruled countries.

Imagine the disaster if people like you, the headbuck, the brg444, the popescu and alikes would rule that country....

lmfao.. nothing to do with banking advantages.

democracy.. lol so overrated.
hello, this word does not describe what it was supposed to etymologically mean anymore.
typical verbal diarrhea. only the sheeples and the statists shills still go for it.

How about just freedom?

Free of what? A society (patriarchy) can only more ore less be free (free of this and that). Only anarchist, stateless communities in the rainforest are free and selfsufficient. You are not.

[hdbuck]

Yes, otherwise Xapo would not prefer Switzerland, the most direct democracy. That's always producing better results than feudalist/elitist/sociopath ruled territories.

OK, let's add geography and politics to the list of things about which Zarathustra knows very little.

Switzerland is a confederacy, not a direct democracy.  The have multiple sub-jurisdictions and ultimate power resides in the heavily armed populace of the cantons.

That's all to deal with the fact that majority rule doesn't scale beyond groups of ~100 people (because we can't remember more names/faces and tragedy of the commons + negative marginal returns ensue when we try).

Zar, please say less and listen more, because your colossal ignorance is an embarrassment to the forum, your fail-teachers, and your fail-parents.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Direct_democracy#Switzerland

The pure form of direct democracy only exists in the Swiss cantons of Appenzell Innerrhoden and Glarus.[11] The Swiss confederation is a semi-direct democracy (representative democracy with instruments of direct democracy).

Ridiculous.
1. I live in Switzerland
2. I spoke twice on that podium in Glarus to the people, until the officials forked me away from the podium
3. Appenzell was the last canton that gave the woman the right to vote
4. Switzerland is the most direct democracy on the planet and that's the reason why companies like Xapo move to this country: The results are better than in elitist/feudalist ruled countries.

Imagine the disaster if people like you, the headbuck, the brg444, the popescu and alikes would rule that country....

lmfao.. nothing to do with banking advantages.

democracy.. lol so overrated.
hello, this word does not describe what it was supposed to etymologically mean anymore.
typical verbal diarrhea. only the sheeples and the statists shills still go for it.

How about just freedom?

Free of what? A society (patriarchy) can only more ore less be free (free of this and that). Only anarchist, stateless communities in the rainforest are free and selfsufficient. You are not.

free from your statist "selfsufficent" fud, and your ill-logic fucked up democracies.


heh and this actually perfectly sums it up: http://trilema.com/2015/why-should-the-argentine-population-go-graze-already/

one group of retards (let's call them libertards) agrees with itself that right-to-choice and words-are-like-bullets! and everyone-is-unique-just-like-everyone-else and whatnot whereas another group of retards (let's call them Bush, because they're all related anyway) agrees with itself that every-sperm-is-precious and drugz-r-bad-mkay and whatnot, and then they go about "disagreeing" with each other and "debating" "issues" in the psychotic manner of each side repeating its mantras at the other like so many magical incantations.

[iCEBREAKER]

I live in Switzerland

You live in Switzerland, and yet someone on the other side of the planet had to explain your country is a confederacy, not a direct democracy.   

[LiQio]

[...]
Switzerland is a confederacy, not a direct democracy.  The have multiple sub-jurisdictions and ultimate power resides in the heavily armed populace of the cantons.
[...]

AFAIK there are four federal votes on different topics per year. Those decisions are based on individual votes and not elected representatives. Why would you not call that direct democracy?

[Zarathustra]

[...]
Switzerland is a confederacy, not a direct democracy.  The have multiple sub-jurisdictions and ultimate power resides in the heavily armed populace of the cantons.
[...]

AFAIK there are four federal votes on different topics per year. Those decisions are based on individual votes and not elected representatives. Why would you not call that direct democracy?

Yes. The people can start an initiative for new laws or a referendum that questions the decisions of the politicians, on all three levels commune, canton and federal government.

[Zarathustra]

Yes, otherwise Xapo would not prefer Switzerland, the most direct democracy. That's always producing better results than feudalist/elitist/sociopath ruled territories.

OK, let's add geography and politics to the list of things about which Zarathustra knows very little.

Switzerland is a confederacy, not a direct democracy.  The have multiple sub-jurisdictions and ultimate power resides in the heavily armed populace of the cantons.

That's all to deal with the fact that majority rule doesn't scale beyond groups of ~100 people (because we can't remember more names/faces and tragedy of the commons + negative marginal returns ensue when we try).

Zar, please say less and listen more, because your colossal ignorance is an embarrassment to the forum, your fail-teachers, and your fail-parents.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Direct_democracy#Switzerland

The pure form of direct democracy only exists in the Swiss cantons of Appenzell Innerrhoden and Glarus.[11] The Swiss confederation is a semi-direct democracy (representative democracy with instruments of direct democracy).

Ridiculous.
1. I live in Switzerland
2. I spoke twice on that podium in Glarus to the people, until the officials forked me away from the podium
3. Appenzell was the last canton that gave the woman the right to vote
4. Switzerland is the most direct democracy on the planet and that's the reason why companies like Xapo move to this country: The results are better than in elitist/feudalist ruled countries.

Imagine the disaster if people like you, the headbuck, the brg444, the popescu and alikes would rule that country....

lmfao.. nothing to do with banking advantages.

democracy.. lol so overrated.
hello, this word does not describe what it was supposed to etymologically mean anymore.
typical verbal diarrhea. only the sheeples and the statists shills still go for it.

How about just freedom?

Free of what? A society (patriarchy) can only more ore less be free (free of this and that). Only anarchist, stateless communities in the rainforest are free and selfsufficient. You are not.

free from your statist "selfsufficent" fud, and your ill-logic fucked up democracies.


heh and this actually perfectly sums it up: http://trilema.com/2015/why-should-the-argentine-population-go-graze-already/

Great elitist and feudalist country! No chance for Switzerland to compete with it on the world market.

[tvbcof]

Great elitist and feudalist country! No chance for Switzerland to compete with it on the world market.
http://oi47.tinypic.com/2e6hr38.jpg

Nestle is operational, or planning to be, buying water in my state for '$0.00225 per gallon' and selling it for 'up to $2.63 per gallon'.

I'd say that multi-national corporations headquartered in Switzerland are as up-to-speed as any on how to exploit 'underdeveloped' populations worldwide.  Small wonder that they are as out-in-front as any in trying to get guns out of the hands of people of areas that they exploit.  Gotta protect those infrastructure investments.

[sAt0sHiFanClub]

Great elitist and feudalist country! No chance for Switzerland to compete with it on the world market.
http://oi47.tinypic.com/2e6hr38.jpg

Nestle is operational, or planning to be, buying water in my state for '$0.00225 per gallon' and selling it for 'up to $2.63 per gallon'.

I'd say that multi-national corporations headquartered in Switzerland are as up-to-speed as any on how to exploit 'underdeveloped' populations worldwide.  Small wonder that they are as out-in-front as any in trying to get guns out of the hands of people of areas that they exploit.  Gotta protect those infrastructure investments.

The people of Oregon are 'underdeveloped'?   

Don't Coca Cola and every other soft drink manufacturer buy municipal water and process it it into finished products at roughly the same price differential?

You are either being devilishly obtuse, or simply incredibly thick. 

[tvbcof]

Great elitist and feudalist country! No chance for Switzerland to compete with it on the world market.
http://oi47.tinypic.com/2e6hr38.jpg

Nestle is operational, or planning to be, buying water in my state for '$0.00225 per gallon' and selling it for 'up to $2.63 per gallon'.

I'd say that multi-national corporations headquartered in Switzerland are as up-to-speed as any on how to exploit 'underdeveloped' populations worldwide.  Small wonder that they are as out-in-front as any in trying to get guns out of the hands of people of areas that they exploit.  Gotta protect those infrastructure investments.

The people of Oregon are 'underdeveloped'?   

Absolutely, and regressing rapidly as our society and education system devolves.

Don't Coca Cola and every other soft drink manufacturer buy municipal water and process it it into finished products at roughly the same price differential?

Probably.  Most are multi-national corporations and are more similar than they are different.  All are equally worthless and the world would be better of if/when they all are '#rekt.'

You are either being devilishly obtuse, or simply incredibly thick. 

OK.

[Zarathustra]

Great elitist and feudalist country! No chance for Switzerland to compete with it on the world market.
http://oi47.tinypic.com/2e6hr38.jpg

Nestle is operational, or planning to be, buying water in my state for '$0.00225 per gallon' and selling it for 'up to $2.63 per gallon'.

I'd say that multi-national corporations headquartered in Switzerland are as up-to-speed as any on how to exploit 'underdeveloped' populations worldwide.  Small wonder that they are as out-in-front as any in trying to get guns out of the hands of people of areas that they exploit.  Gotta protect those infrastructure investments.

The people of Oregon are 'underdeveloped'?  

Absolutely, and regressing rapidly as our society and education system devolves.

Yes, q.e.d.
Needless to say that the Swiss direct democracy generates a better (broad) education system (not just the higher education for the 1 percent).

For the sixth consecutive edition, Switzerland tops the rankings of the World Economic Forum’s Global Competitiveness Report. Since 1979, this annual study has helped to pinpoint the reasons behind the differing fortunes of the countries studied – 144 economies in the 2014-2015 edition.
Switzerland owes its success to a combination of factors. Among these are its stable, transparent and effective institutions; sound and healthy public finances; an attractive tax regime; excellent infrastructure and connectivity; a world-class education system; relatively peaceful relations among social actors within a flexible labour market; the highest level of business sophistication; and, most importantly, an exceptional capacity for innovation. In advanced countries, innovation is the main source of long-term growth. However, few countries can pride themselves on being global innovation powerhouses. With the highest international patent application rate per inhabitant in the world, Switzerland is certainly entitled to make this claim.

http://www.weforum.org/content/what-makes-switzerland-so-competitive

[tvbcof]

The people of Oregon are 'underdeveloped'?  

Absolutely, and regressing rapidly as our society and education system devolves.

Yes, q.e.d.
Needless to say that the Swiss direct democracy generates a better (broad) education system (not just the higher education for the 1 percent).
...

Ya, educating kids about how great it is to butt-fuck one another.

[Zarathustra]

The people of Oregon are 'underdeveloped'?  

Absolutely, and regressing rapidly as our society and education system devolves.

Yes, q.e.d.
Needless to say that the Swiss direct democracy generates a better (broad) education system (not just the higher education for the 1 percent).
...

Ya, educating kids about how great it is to butt-fuck one another.

Yes, that's civilization and capitalism (patriarchy). That means competition, in contrast to the stateless, self-sufficient community (anarchy).
I'm postulating anarchy, but among the several different reign systems I still prefer direct democracy over elitist/feudalist systems.

[hdbuck]

The people of Oregon are 'underdeveloped'?   

Absolutely, and regressing rapidly as our society and education system devolves.

Yes, q.e.d.
Needless to say that the Swiss direct democracy generates a better (broad) education system (not just the higher education for the 1 percent).
...

Ya, educating kids about how great it is to butt-fuck one another.

Yes, that's civilization and capitalism (patriarchy). That means competition, in contrast to the stateless, self-sufficient community (anarchy).
I'm postulating anarchy, but among the several different reign systems I still prefer direct democracy over elitist/feudalist systems.

eh, always the false antagonisms fud: patriachy vs anarchy blablabla..

time to change the bloody record dude..