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August 05, 2015, 02:05:28 PM
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Drone have been used to drop bombs, spy on foreign countries and monitor how farmers work their fields. Now they could help hack into personal computers.

According to e-mails posted by WikiLeaks, military contractors may want to do just that. Boeing and Hacking Team — a Milan-based company criticized for selling surveillance software to repressive governments — were in talks earlier this year to plant malware on drones to perform such activities, according to the e-mails, which were stolen from Hacking Team in July.

According to an e-mail that summarizes the contents of a meeting between the two companies, Boeing was searching for a "ruggedized" network injector "transportable by drone (!)."

Drone and network analysts offer a scenario about how this type of technology could work:

A highly desired al-Qaeda operative is on the lam, hiding out in a bungalow in the foothills of some not-so-allied country, which may or may not be protecting him from U.S. detection. The American military could try hacking into that government's computer network to look for intelligence, but reaching across the globe through a keyboard is pretty hard and time-consuming.

Or, the military could put an unmanned drone in the air equipped with malware to fly over the highly desired operative's bungalow and conduct some surveillance.

That kind of hardware on an unmanned aircraft would give its user the ability to conduct cyberwarfare and espionage in ways that formerly required close proximity with the target, according to those analysts.

"You want to be able to place yourself in the middle of traffic to surveil it or gain access to it," said independent network researcher Collin Anderson. "What this gives you is the ability to be in the same room as all the other machines you’re tying to look out for."

A Hacking Team spokesman said Boeing and Hacking Team have "no business relationship at all."

Boeing, which makes the ScanEagle drone for the military and is pitching the Phantom Eye drone as well, declined to comment on its communication with Hacking Team but said in a statement that it is important to understand new hardware and software capabilities in order to offer them to clients.


"Understanding the payload technologies available to our customers in this market is essential to providing them with the services they require," Boeing said.

The ability to hack someone using a drone may be attractive for the military, said Michael Blades, a senior aerospace and defense industry analyst with Frost & Sullivan.

"We’re used to drones getting information from their sensors and cameras and stuff, but there’s nothing that says they can’t get information from a data link, or use malware in a drone to corrupt a system," he said. "Military clients would want that."

The kind of hacks drone operators would be able to conduct aren't incredibly advanced, say industry analysts, but they do give users a whole other suite of options to gather "signals intelligence," or information scraped from electronic signals or networks.

Disabling a WiFi network — which would curb an enemy's ability to communicate or fly their own drones — or creating a false network called a "honeypot" — which would allow hackers to access devices that connect to it — require proximity but not a lot of technical skill.

"Putting it on a drone sounds science fiction, but these tools are something that any high school student with a little technical knowledge can use," Collins said.

That means they could be more attractive to military-industry buyers, analysts say.

"There are hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of beneficial economic applications that drones can do," said Colin Snow, chief executive and founder of Drone Analyst, a California-based civilian aircraft consultancy. "It replaces a lot of the dull, dirty and dangerous jobs."

And now, perhaps, they might also be able to help hack into your computer.


https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-switch/wp/2015/08/04/hacked-e-mails-boeing-wants-its-drones-to-hack-computers-from-the-sky/


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August 05, 2015, 02:07:34 PM
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Jokes aside, the whole drone thing is getting more dangerous everyday. Yet, I cannot ignore its benefits.

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August 05, 2015, 02:33:43 PM
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Is there a penalty if i shoot  those spy drones with my sniper? I hope not.

Jokes aside, the whole drone thing is getting more dangerous everyday. Yet, I cannot ignore its benefits.


Man shoots drone trespassing over his property and is arrested


A Kentucky man shot down an $1,800 drone hovering over his sunbathing daughter and was then arrested and charged with first degree criminal mischief and first-degree wanton endangerment.

“My daughter comes in and says, ‘Dad, there’s a drone out here flying,’ ” William H. Merideth, 47, told a local Fox News affiliate reported Tuesday. The Bullitt County father shot at the drone, which crashed in a field near his yard Sunday night.

The owner of the drone claims he was only trying to take pictures of a friend’s house, the station reported.

“I went and got my shotgun and I said, ‘I’m not going to do anything unless it’s directly over my property,’ ” Mr. Merideth said, noting that the drone briefly disappeared when his daughter waved it off. “Within a minute or so, here it came. It was hovering over top of my property, and I shot it out of the sky. I didn’t shoot across the road, I didn’t shoot across my neighbor’s fences, I shot directly into the air.”

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“He didn’t just fly over,” he said. “If he had been moving and just kept moving, that would have been one thing — but when he come directly over our heads, and just hovered there, I felt like I had the right.”

“You know, when you’re in your own property, within a six-foot privacy fence, you have the expectation of privacy,” he said. “We don’t know if he was looking at the girls. We don’t know if he was looking for something to steal. To me, it was the same as trespassing.”

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/jul/30/william-merideth-arrested-after-shooting-down-1800/


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You’d think it would be obvious that it’s not a good idea to pilot an expensive piece of surveillance equipment just casually over other people’s properties, not just out of respect for other people’s privacy, but because you could lose the thing.

http://reason.com/blog/2015/07/30/ruby-dont-take-your-drone-to-town



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August 05, 2015, 02:35:15 PM
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Is there a penalty if i shoot  those spy drones with my sniper? I hope not.

Jokes aside, the whole drone thing is getting more dangerous everyday. Yet, I cannot ignore its benefits.

Kentucky Man Arrested for Shooting Drone Out of the Sky

"On Sunday, William Merideth blasted a flying quadcopter out of the sky with a shotgun in Hillview, Kentucky, and was arrested shortly after for first-degree criminal mischief and first-degree wanton endangerment.

Merideth claims the drone was flying ten feet above his property and had been spying on his neighbor’s sunbathing daughter."

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“Sunday afternoon, the kids – my girls – were out on the back deck, and the neighbors were out in their yard,” Merideth told WDRB. “And they come in and said, ‘Dad, there’s a drone out here, flying over everybody’s yard.’ Well, I came out and it was down by the neighbor’s house, about 10 feet off the ground, looking under their canopy that they’ve got in their back yard. I went and got my shotgun and I said, ‘I’m not going to do anything unless it’s directly over my property. Within a minute or so, here it came. It was hovering over top of my property, and I shot it out of the sky. I didn’t shoot across the road, I didn’t shoot across my neighbor’s fences, I shot directly into the air. It was just right there. It was hovering. I would never have shot it if it was flying.”

Hillview man arrested for shooting down drone; cites right to privacy

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LOUISVILLE, Ky. (WDRB) -- A Hillview man has been arrested after he shot down a drone flying over his property -- but he's not making any apologies for it.

It happened Sunday night at a home on Earlywood Way, just south of the intersection between Smith Lane and Mud Lane in Bullitt County, according to an arrest report.

Hillview Police say they were called to the home of 47-year-old William H. Merideth after someone complained about a firearm.

RELATED: Drone owner disputes shooter's allegations; produces video he claims shows flight path

When they arrived, police say Merideth told them he had shot down a drone that was flying over his house. The drone was hit in mid-air and crashed in a field near Merideth's home.

Police say the owner of the drone claimed he was flying it to get pictures of a friend's house -- and that the cost of the drone was over $1,800.

Merideth was arrested and charged with first degree criminal mischief and first degree wanton endangerment. He was booked into the Bullitt County Detention Center, and released on Monday.

WDRB News spoke with Merideth Tuesday afternoon, and he gave his side of the story.

"Sunday afternoon, the kids – my girls – were out on the back deck, and the neighbors were out in their yard," Merideth said. "And they come in and said, 'Dad, there’s a drone out here, flying over everybody’s yard.'"

Merideth's neighbors saw it too.

"It was just hovering above our house and it stayed for a few moments and then she finally waved and it took off," said neighbor Kim VanMeter.

VanMeter has a 16-year-old daughter who lays out at their pool. She says a drone hovering with a camera is creepy and weird.

"I just think you should have privacy in your own backyard," she said.

Merideth agrees and said he had to go see for himself.....
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August 05, 2015, 03:16:50 PM
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Is there a penalty if i shoot  those spy drones with my sniper? I hope not.

Jokes aside, the whole drone thing is getting more dangerous everyday. Yet, I cannot ignore its benefits.


VanMeter has a 16-year-old daughter who lays out at their pool. She says a drone hovering with a camera is creepy and weird.


Just hope that it's not a government owned drone, because then, of course IT'S A GOOD THING, and if you shoot it down, YOU ARE A BAD GUY.  (says the creepy perv watching the drone camera feed at TSA local headquarters.)
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August 05, 2015, 03:24:44 PM
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He should have use emp or jamming the signal to kill the drone. Using a shotgun is very obvious.
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August 05, 2015, 05:06:38 PM
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He should have use emp or jamming the signal to kill the drone. Using a shotgun is very obvious.


A dude with his daughters sunbathing should have an EMP canon with him all the time now? Drones will be like mosquitoes...


 
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