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October 05, 2012, 01:47:33 PM
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Well back on topic it looks like we have moved out of speculation and on to posting stock photos of the new oven and pick-n-place machines that they have in another thread started so I will just link to it here.


https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=115521.0


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October 17, 2012, 10:45:20 AM
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I don't quite get your statement of "those with the biggest pockets will win"

It's quite simple. If the total network hash rate is 200TH/s and you have 1TH/s you will receive roughly 0.5% of all bitcoins generated.

If you have 1x 4.5GH/s unit at 200TH/s network rate would receive 0.00225% of all bitcoins generated.

If people with a large bank book purchase more hardware it can offset those with a smaller amount of hardware if those with less hardware do not purchase more.

Lets say after the network hash rate 10 people decide to purchase 10TH/s. It will raise the difficulty to 300TH/s. If the 1x 4.5GH/s user does not increase their hashing power they will now only be receiving 0.0015% of all bitcoins generated.

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Bitcoin is a battle of who invests the most money and the length of the ROI period investors are willing to accept. The amount of currency generated is always the same, which is what the investors are battling over (obviously).






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October 17, 2012, 03:28:33 PM
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Just how many units per day will their new facility produce?

I posted this a while ago in the Newbie section...

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"if needed, weekends and 24 hour shifts can keep the production line moving to satisfy quick delivery of customer orders. To this end we've purchased an entire SMT assembly suite and hired a capable team to run it. These units are currently being installed in our new facility."

"BFL_Office - 10-05-2012, 09:47 AM
The setup has a conservative capacity of 300 units per 8 hour shift or 900 units in a 24 hour day."
https://forums.butterflylabs.com/content.php/120-BFL-Invests-in-Assembly-Equipment

So I pondered, if they can churn them out at 900 per day, why bother with a pre-order?  Wink
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October 17, 2012, 03:34:08 PM
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I don't quite get your statement of "those with the biggest pockets will win"

It's quite simple. If the total network hash rate is 200TH/s and you have 1TH/s you will receive roughly 0.5% of all bitcoins generated.

If you have 1x 4.5GH/s unit at 200TH/s network rate would receive 0.00225% of all bitcoins generated.

If people with a large bank book purchase more hardware it can offset those with a smaller amount of hardware if those with less hardware do not purchase more.

Lets say after the network hash rate 10 people decide to purchase 10TH/s. It will raise the difficulty to 300TH/s. If the 1x 4.5GH/s user does not increase their hashing power they will now only be receiving 0.0015% of all bitcoins generated.

..

Bitcoin is a battle of who invests the most money and the length of the ROI period investors are willing to accept. The amount of currency generated is always the same, which is what the investors are battling over (obviously).
Isn't this how ANYTHING in the world works though?  Those who make the largest investments receive the largest return.  And that is somehow wrong in your mind?  Or... what's your point?

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Just how many units per day will their new facility produce?

I posted this a while ago in the Newbie section...

BLF said..
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"if needed, weekends and 24 hour shifts can keep the production line moving to satisfy quick delivery of customer orders. To this end we've purchased an entire SMT assembly suite and hired a capable team to run it. These units are currently being installed in our new facility."

"BFL_Office - 10-05-2012, 09:47 AM
The setup has a conservative capacity of 300 units per 8 hour shift or 900 units in a 24 hour day."
https://forums.butterflylabs.com/content.php/120-BFL-Invests-in-Assembly-Equipment

So I pondered, if they can churn them out at 900 per day, why bother with a pre-order?  Wink
I certainly wouldn't at this point in the game.  The difference between preordering now and ordering after all of the preorders are filled would probably only be a few days worth of production.
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October 17, 2012, 06:21:11 PM
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which really makes you wonder why in the hell would they bother. They could make all the hardware they are capable of selling in a year in just under a couple weeks production capacity.

No business does such a thing.
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October 17, 2012, 06:34:41 PM
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which really makes you wonder why in the hell would they bother. They could make all the hardware they are capable of selling in a year in just under a couple weeks production capacity.

No business does such a thing.
You also have to consider labor cost savings.  If the machines cost $50,000, and they can do the same work that 10 people @ $20,000/year can do, then it's a good move for the company, even if it does mean they have way more production capacity than they really need.
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October 18, 2012, 09:12:40 PM
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Very good questions  Wink

They magically produce 3 different types of devices in 1 or 2 months that can magically produce a magically amount of money against a magically low price and were are a lot of proof is magically not given so far ...



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October 18, 2012, 11:31:37 PM
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Very good questions  Wink

They magically produce 3 different types of devices in 1 or 2 months that can magically produce a magically amount of money against a magically low price and were are a lot of proof is magically not given so far ...



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You are reading too much JK Rowling.

Nope...Tolkien ""Lord of the ASIC tales""

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