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August 07, 2020, 05:38:08 PM |
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I was writing about it a few weeks ago in some other topic and how unfair this is towards the smaller clubs with smaller budgets and less options on the bench. Glad that we are returning back to normal and that sanity and fair play prevailed.
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August 07, 2020, 10:06:28 PM |
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Here are the individual player rankings from SofaScore https://i.imgur.com/L5lNRIo.jpgDebruyne has been consistently the top Looks like Willian carried Chelsea See the 2 clear leaders (looks like Liverpool were actually lucky to win) https://i.imgur.com/AzOYHKe.jpgMaybe we could have our own version of the superbowl. The 4 top players from the 2 best teams draft in players from all the other clubs for a big final? Don't know but I feel like Mané and Aubameyang are a little bit, well undervalued in this score. Especially Aubameyang, if he was playing in Liverpool or City for example he will be in in the top 3-5 imo
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August 08, 2020, 09:22:18 AM Last edit: August 08, 2020, 12:27:41 PM by Globb0 |
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Jesus christ Marcus Rashford is still 22 years old!!!! I can't believe dude is still that young! I was fully expecting him to be over 27 years old by this point, god knows he has been playing so well for so many years that I was expecting him to be older. Manchester United has suuuuch a huge potential, I mean we are talking about such a huge potential that they are still young and yet they finished with third position already, and this is with best player being 22-23 years old.
I wonder what they will be like in 2-3 seasons, we are talking about Rashford becoming like 25-26 years old, and he is basically working as well as possible on himself as well so he will definitely peak in talent as well. I hope that eventually united goes back to their old roots and become a great team, past few years since SAF retired has been horrible.
We could be evolving a pretty strong national team with those guys too as they get better. *Edit* I just got 7/1 on Chelsea for their Europe match against Bayern. They are 3:0 behind from first leg so surely trying to win. I chucked a few quid on it */edit*
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August 08, 2020, 10:11:46 AM |
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Jesus christ Marcus Rashford is still 22 years old!!!! I can't believe dude is still that young! I was fully expecting him to be over 27 years old by this point, god knows he has been playing so well for so many years that I was expecting him to be older. Manchester United has suuuuch a huge potential, I mean we are talking about such a huge potential that they are still young and yet they finished with third position already, and this is with best player being 22-23 years old.
I wonder what they will be like in 2-3 seasons, we are talking about Rashford becoming like 25-26 years old, and he is basically working as well as possible on himself as well so he will definitely peak in talent as well. I hope that eventually united goes back to their old roots and become a great team, past few years since SAF retired has been horrible.
We could be evolving a pretty strong national team with those guys too as they get better. Currently many young players doing very good job for clubs and they can do much better for national team in near future because they have ability and courage so surely England could be good national in near future with these youngsters.
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August 08, 2020, 06:45:52 PM |
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I never really considered United to be such a young and exciting team, I always thought about them as a team that usually fails, sometimes gets good results but that is about it, never really young on top o their current situation.
Wolves looking to be one of the other teams that has a bright future as well, they are doing very well too and I think they are going to get better. That is the great thing about premier league, there is at least 10 teams I can count that should be in the top 5 spot, that is really hard, and one of them happens to be 10th in the end of the season but by all accounts any team that is top 10 in premier league could probably be top 5 in almost any league, would be for most of them but for some of them it could be harder yet has a chance for all of them.
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August 08, 2020, 11:11:46 PM |
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Congratulations to Leeds, WBA and Fulham, they will play in the English Primer League season 2020/21, the history of three clubs have all played in the English Primer League even though it was then. Look at Leeds last at EPL in 2003/04, WBA in 2017/18 and Fulham in 2018/19. And then they have experienced coaches except Fulham, Marcelo Bielsa at Leeds, Bilic at WBA, and Scott Parker at Fulham. Bielsa and Bilic have experience and trophies while Scott Parker does not have, his achievements brought the promotion of Fulham to the EPL. Looking at the opportunities of the three team promotion in the season 2020/21 in the English Primer League, can they survive or just through?
All the three clubs listed above had had experience in English premier league, the epl battle field ground is not a strange things for them as its just a one step harder into their career, WBA, Leeds and Fulham has great styles of play in England. I strongly believed those clubs could perform their possible best especially Leeds United as Okazaki if I'm not mistaken brings up the club to a new level.
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August 09, 2020, 12:33:55 PM |
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I never really considered United to be such a young and exciting team, I always thought about them as a team that usually fails, sometimes gets good results but that is about it, never really young on top o their current situation.
Wolves looking to be one of the other teams that has a bright future as well, they are doing very well too and I think they are going to get better. That is the great thing about premier league, there is at least 10 teams I can count that should be in the top 5 spot, that is really hard, and one of them happens to be 10th in the end of the season but by all accounts any team that is top 10 in premier league could probably be top 5 in almost any league, would be for most of them but for some of them it could be harder yet has a chance for all of them.
Wolves has outstanding performance in last two years, but it's just matter of time their performance would go down once their coach and few of best players leave the club, like Southampton, Everton and Leicester. Luckily, Leicester seems have found their shape back under Rodgers. I'm very sure Nuno Santo has been receiving many offers from big teams and I wouldn't be surprised if he moves to Barcelona or PSG.
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August 09, 2020, 12:53:45 PM |
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^ Doubtful. Was Nuno a former Barca player? Barca has a tradition of hiring only former players as their manager afaik. And I don't think he's ready for a big club just yet imho. I do see him as a somewhat nice fit at clubs like Atletico or Tottenham.
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August 09, 2020, 01:09:00 PM |
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^ Doubtful. Was Nuno a former Barca player? Barca has a tradition of hiring only former players as their manager afaik. And I don't think he's ready for a big club just yet imho. I do see him as a somewhat nice fit at clubs like Atletico or Tottenham.
I don't see him as a top club manager. He has very good connections in his home Portugal and knows/trusts Portuguese players the best. You can see how many Portuguese players are in Wolves at the moment, I remember one game when he had 7 first team Portuguese players in starting line up, all 7 bought after he took the job if I am not mistaken. That is not something that can be done at the biggest scene.
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August 09, 2020, 01:30:15 PM |
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^ Doubtful. Was Nuno a former Barca player? Barca has a tradition of hiring only former players as their manager afaik. And I don't think he's ready for a big club just yet imho. I do see him as a somewhat nice fit at clubs like Atletico or Tottenham.
Well in fact, 4 of 8 Barca last coaches wasn't their former players. I also felt Valverde, Setien, and Martino weren't ready for a big club yet but Barca somehow still hired them to manage the team. But I agree that Tottenham could be a good decision for Santo like what Pochettino did right after several of his best players in Southampton moved to big teams. I don't see him as a top club manager. He has very good connections in his home Portugal and knows/trusts Portuguese players the best. You can see how many Portuguese players are in Wolves at the moment, I remember one game when he had 7 first team Portuguese players in starting line up, all 7 bought after he took the job if I am not mistaken.
That is not something that can be done at the biggest scene.
As long as it gives positive impact to the team, I don't think it's a problem if he wants to use players from his country. But yeah probably he is not a top manager yet. Ranieri able to get Leicester their first Premier League title in their history, but after their best players leaved, the team was struggling. The same case might happen to Santo.
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August 09, 2020, 01:38:57 PM |
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^ Doubtful. Was Nuno a former Barca player? Barca has a tradition of hiring only former players as their manager afaik. And I don't think he's ready for a big club just yet imho. I do see him as a somewhat nice fit at clubs like Atletico or Tottenham.
I don't see him as a top club manager. He has very good connections in his home Portugal and knows/trusts Portuguese players the best. You can see how many Portuguese players are in Wolves at the moment, I remember one game when he had 7 first team Portuguese players in starting line up, all 7 bought after he took the job if I am not mistaken. That is not something that can be done at the biggest scene. @tokeweed Nuno is not a former Barcelona player, and I don’t think that he’ll drop the wolves project just yet, as I expect him to stick with wolves for at least one more year. @Trofo I wasn’t aware of his love for Portuguese player’s, but with that mentality he won’t ever get a job offer from a big club, unless he’s proves that he’s open to adapt and change his approach regarding the selection of his playing 11. Sources: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuno_Esp%C3%ADrito_Santohttps://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-8605633/Wolves-open-talks-boss-Nuno-Espirito-Santo-Europa-League-run.html
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August 09, 2020, 04:26:28 PM |
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There's nothing wrong on making a player selection that come from his own country as we have seen at arsenal where arsene wenger tend to sign players from france .. that's because they have better scouting & networking there or it could be for communication and understanding on applying a strategy . Anyways yeah i heard that wolves are ready to offer new contract for nuno which i can't see any reason why he would reject it, Barcelona had xavi in their top list and pochettino after , no chance for nuno. The countdown till the 20/21 season is 34 days to go. Can't wait to see my team fighting for the title race with werner leading the chelsea front.
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August 09, 2020, 04:53:18 PM |
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There's nothing wrong on making a player selection that come from his own country as we have seen at arsenal where arsene wenger tend to sign players from france .. that's because they have better scouting & networking there or it could be for communication and understanding on applying a strategy. Of course, player who have the same passport as the coach make it possible to better understand the strategy presented by the coach. I agree with you, and it doesnt matter. Many coaches have a habit of recruiting player from their home country because of their language skills, which will make it easier for them to convey their strategy. The countdown till the 20/21 season is 34 days to go. Can't wait to see my team fighting for the title race with werner leading the chelsea front. Really, it feels really fast.
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August 09, 2020, 06:01:41 PM |
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^ Doubtful. Was Nuno a former Barca player? Barca has a tradition of hiring only former players as their manager afaik. And I don't think he's ready for a big club just yet imho. I do see him as a somewhat nice fit at clubs like Atletico or Tottenham.
No one saw pep before he took over the coaching role as fit for a big club, no one saw zidane of real Madrid before he took over as the best fit for a big club, but these two coaches proves the where great coaches and fits into big clubs, what a coach needs is good bond/relationship with the team at his disposal, if this two fits just like a connection of wires, they can spark up any club.
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Zidane is currently a bigger player than a coach as he had a brilliant career winning everything during his period. Now as coach he started like no other one so I think in time he will be the greatest coach but he should've move to Juventus but instead they signed Pirlo... . Also Pep is a great coach but his career as a football player was great even if we didn't hear about him but he had a strong presence in the pitch and a lot of ex players told this about Pep.
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People are undervaluing what Nuno has achieved with the Wolves, we are talking about a team that normally doesn't end up in these levels and Nuno made them almost a champions league level team which they couldn't even imagine if it wasn't for him but they almost got there if they didn't suck so badly after the pandemic. Would he get big club offers? Maybe not now, he needs some more years before he could be asked from those teams, and most of those teams actually get players from their own club, look at Barça now, they are probably looking into Xavi to be their next Pep Guardiola as well.
However that doesn't mean he will never get that offer, if he keeps up this great situation for 2 more years he will probably get an offer from a big club that fires their manager for bad results and have a chance to turn that ship around.
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Zidane is currently a bigger player than a coach as he had a brilliant career winning everything during his period. Now as coach he started like no other one so I think in time he will be the greatest coach but he should've move to Juventus but instead they signed Pirlo... . Also Pep is a great coach but his career as a football player was great even if we didn't hear about him but he had a strong presence in the pitch and a lot of ex players told this about Pep.
For Zidane - No Ronaldo, no party. I don’t think he’s a great coach, all of those CL wins were largely dictated by Ronaldo in his peak. Look at Zidane since Ronaldo left.
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For Zidane - No Ronaldo, no party. I don’t think he’s a great coach, all of those CL wins were largely dictated by Ronaldo in his peak. Look at Zidane since Ronaldo left.
And so does Ronaldo. He literally doesn't give so much impact for Juventus except making his own individual records there.
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August 09, 2020, 10:47:28 PM |
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People are undervaluing what Nuno has achieved with the Wolves, we are talking about a team that normally doesn't end up in these levels and Nuno made them almost a champions league level team which they couldn't even imagine if it wasn't for him but they almost got there if they didn't suck so badly after the pandemic. Would he get big club offers? Maybe not now, he needs some more years before he could be asked from those teams, and most of those teams actually get players from their own club, look at Barça now, they are probably looking into Xavi to be their next Pep Guardiola as well.
However that doesn't mean he will never get that offer, if he keeps up this great situation for 2 more years he will probably get an offer from a big club that fires their manager for bad results and have a chance to turn that ship around.
I agree that Nuno as the coach of the Wolves team should be given appreciation, the busy schedule due to the pandemic has made Wolves play even more decreased. Even before the pandemic, Wolves were able to compete for the Champions League spot. The success that Wolves achieved, because of greatness Nuno as coach. But to get offers from big clubs, like Juventus or Barcelona. Like not at this time, except for Wolves next season managed to get a Champions League spot.
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Nominees for the premier league young (<23 at the start of the season) player of the 2019/20 season are in;
I can't believe Bukayo Saka didn't make the cut. Who are you picking?
Trent Alexander-Arnold all the way. - Less than 12 hrs to go.
Which goal you guys are voting for " Budweiser Goal of the Season"? - My pick is SON Heung-min's goal against Burnley.
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