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For Zidane - No Ronaldo, no party. I don’t think he’s a great coach, all of those CL wins were largely dictated by Ronaldo in his peak. Look at Zidane since Ronaldo left.
And so does Ronaldo. He literally doesn't give so much impact for Juventus except making his own individual records there. That's why Ronaldo went to Serie A , a not so competitive League like La Liga and in a league that there is not an opponent such as Messi there. He wanted to keep playing football in a top club (Juventus) and keep doing records in order to be a myth. He has managed to be a legend in England, Spain and now in Italy during his career.
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August 10, 2020, 08:29:49 AM |
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Zidane is currently a bigger player than a coach as he had a brilliant career winning everything during his period. Now as coach he started like no other one so I think in time he will be the greatest coach but he should've move to Juventus but instead they signed Pirlo... . Also Pep is a great coach but his career as a football player was great even if we didn't hear about him but he had a strong presence in the pitch and a lot of ex players told this about Pep.
For Zidane - No Ronaldo, no party. I don’t think he’s a great coach, all of those CL wins were largely dictated by Ronaldo in his peak. Look at Zidane since Ronaldo left. If so as you say, then why did Ronaldo and Juventus fail to pass Lyon? Zidane is not a very strong coach, but he can give the team what it needs to win.
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That's why Ronaldo went to Serie A , a not so competitive League like La Liga and in a league that there is not an opponent such as Messi there. He wanted to keep playing football in a top club (Juventus) and keep doing records in order to be a myth. He has managed to be a legend in England, Spain and now in Italy during his career.
La Liga is a more opened league than Serie A that tend to have more tightened matches. If you watched matches when Messi in his highest form years ago, was beaten entirely by Alex Nesta in AC Milan, you would have understood it. Nesta, in that season was been in his last two or three seasons before his retirement. Messi was so angry with opportunities were taken by Nesta, and he angrily thumbed on the ground. I am not a fan of Ronaldo, but once again if you watched his dribbling skills in his 19s, in Manchester United, you can not say his dribbling skills are bad. He is wise and changes his playing style over time, from a wingback, to forward and a striker.
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@hd49728 Messi in top form then? I wonder how you measured that?
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I feel like visiting La Liga or Serie A topic lol. Only posts about Ronaldo, Messi and Zidane! BTW Willian quits Chelsea and Liverpool gonna sign with Kostas Tsimikas from olympiacos (left-back)
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~snip~ I strongly believed those clubs could perform their possible best especially Leeds United as Okazaki if I'm not mistaken brings up the club to a new level.
Yes, many clubs in the second division while playing in the FA Cup give difficulties to the top EPL clubs. This is a sign that the promotion club from the second division can compete and survive in the EPL. But one EPL season is a long game, they have to prepare the team by buying quality players so that they can survive not just one season in the EPL. In my opinion, the success of Leeds is Marcelo Bielsa's foresight, besides that I am also happy with the key Leeds midfielder Kalvin Phillips, their collaboration is very good.
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August 10, 2020, 07:17:00 PM |
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I don’t know anything about Kostas Tsimikas. Any Greek guys here?
Is he any good?
It’s back up for Robertson so I see it as a positive.
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August 10, 2020, 07:35:37 PM |
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I feel like visiting La Liga or Serie A topic lol. Only posts about Ronaldo, Messi and Zidane!
La liga is certainly not that different than Serie A if you ask me, there is not that many teams that can be champions in both of those leagues. Look at la liga, in the last 20 years there has been 2 teams that won aside from real Madrid and Barcelona, we are talking about 17-18 of those seasons in the past 20 years won by the same two clubs, which makes it as dull as it gets and as predictable as it gets. Do you want a secret, I can say with 99.99% confidence that next champions of la liga will be either real Madrid or Barcelona once again. Serie A has juventus who keeps winning back to back so many times and Ronaldo went there but one has 2 teams the other has one, that is the only difference, it is not like he went from a league with "who will become champions can't be predicted" type of competition to serie A.
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I feel like visiting La Liga or Serie A topic lol. Only posts about Ronaldo, Messi and Zidane!
La liga is certainly not that different than Serie A if you ask me, there is not that many teams that can be champions in both of those leagues. Look at la liga, in the last 20 years there has been 2 teams that won aside from real Madrid and Barcelona, we are talking about 17-18 of those seasons in the past 20 years won by the same two clubs, which makes it as dull as it gets and as predictable as it gets. Do you want a secret, I can say with 99.99% confidence that next champions of la liga will be either real Madrid or Barcelona once again. Serie A has juventus who keeps winning back to back so many times and Ronaldo went there but one has 2 teams the other has one, that is the only difference, it is not like he went from a league with "who will become champions can't be predicted" type of competition to serie A. No. I mean this topic is to discuss EPL related stuff, maybe FA Cup too or even a game involving one of EPL teams but certainly not to turn it to a discussion about La Liga/Serie A players and teams unless there is a transfer or something related to EPL. There is a dedicated topic for each league, including Champions and Europa leagues..
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August 10, 2020, 10:48:32 PM |
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I don’t know anything about Kostas Tsimikas. Any Greek guys here?
Is he any good?
It’s back up for Robertson so I see it as a positive.
Many do not know Kostas Tsimikas, because this player has just won a place in the Olympiakos main team in the 2018-2019 season. And the two previous seasons on loan to Esbjerg and Willem II. The 2019-2020 season Tsimikas appeared in 46 matches helping Olympiakos won the Greek Super League champion. To be a back up for Robertson I think it is good, and also the purchase price is not too expensive.
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August 11, 2020, 08:36:25 AM |
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As long as he's got 2 feet and remains healthy, I'm happy with the Tsimikas deal.
We really needed cover for Robertson and Milner neither wants to play there nor can run up and down all the time anymore. He's a great cover if Tsimikas doesn't fit into the team but left back was a position where we really needed a player - any player that is left-footed and can run.
I don't expect much, from the few clips I saw his passing isn't up to standard and he dives into tackles too often. But I'm sure our scouting department did their research and they did pick up some gems before. Hopefully Tsimikas will be at least decent.
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August 11, 2020, 08:52:41 AM |
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As long as he's got 2 feet and remains healthy, I'm happy with the Tsimikas deal.
We really needed cover for Robertson and Milner neither wants to play there nor can run up and down all the time anymore. He's a great cover if Tsimikas doesn't fit into the team but left back was a position where we really needed a player - any player that is left-footed and can run.
I don't expect much, from the few clips I saw his passing isn't up to standard and he dives into tackles too often. But I'm sure our scouting department did their research and they did pick up some gems before. Hopefully Tsimikas will be at least decent.
Milner was capable of playing there but I saw two games of him deputising there & the opposition targeted him both times for his lack of pace. He was yellow carded both times so Liverpool had to provide a better cover for Robertson.
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August 11, 2020, 09:32:04 AM |
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As long as he's got 2 feet and remains healthy, I'm happy with the Tsimikas deal.
We really needed cover for Robertson and Milner neither wants to play there nor can run up and down all the time anymore. He's a great cover if Tsimikas doesn't fit into the team but left back was a position where we really needed a player - any player that is left-footed and can run.
I don't expect much, from the few clips I saw his passing isn't up to standard and he dives into tackles too often. But I'm sure our scouting department did their research and they did pick up some gems before. Hopefully Tsimikas will be at least decent.
Exactly, he is young and Klopp has already proved he can do wonders with young full backs willing to lean and listeb. It is not like Robertson and Arnold were the players they are today when they got in the club. He is young and obviously has some potential, he will not have problem sitting out all the major games and he did not cost a fortune. Good job for Liverpool for sure to add a bit of depth on otherwise very thin left back position.
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As long as he's got 2 feet and remains healthy, I'm happy with the Tsimikas deal.
We really needed cover for Robertson and Milner neither wants to play there nor can run up and down all the time anymore. He's a great cover if Tsimikas doesn't fit into the team but left back was a position where we really needed a player - any player that is left-footed and can run.
I don't expect much, from the few clips I saw his passing isn't up to standard and he dives into tackles too often. But I'm sure our scouting department did their research and they did pick up some gems before. Hopefully Tsimikas will be at least decent.
Exactly, he is young and Klopp has already proved he can do wonders with young full backs willing to lean and listeb. It is not like Robertson and Arnold were the players they are today when they got in the club. He is young and obviously has some potential, he will not have problem sitting out all the major games and he did not cost a fortune. Good job for Liverpool for sure to add a bit of depth on otherwise very thin left back position. What we really need is a better back up than Origi to Firmino, Mane & Salah. I’m still hopeful we’ll do some business there. We need a controlling midfielder too, somebody really good on the ball. I still think we’ll sign Thiago after Bayern’s participation in the CL.
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What we really need is a better back up than Origi to Firmino, Mane & Salah. I’m still hopeful we’ll do some business there. We need a controlling midfielder too, somebody really good on the ball. I still think we’ll sign Thiago after Bayern’s participation in the CL.
Agreed on both but we also need some cover at centre-back now. Matip and Gomez both have their health issues, Fabinho was decent for a few games he played there but I'd still like another player. Youngsters are decent and with a lot of potential (Hoever, Van den Berg) but not quite ready yet. Hopefully Minamino will do well in preseason because he was supposed to be that 'better than Origi' player. Keita had a strong end to the season so I'm looking for him and Ox to bring a bit more flair to our midfield. Thiago would be a perfect fit for us. Really hope you're right there.
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Bayern Munich open for bid if Liverpool really want to buy Thiago Alcantara. The rumor mentioned if the price of Thiago is around £31 million. For now, there is no official offer for this players. Thiago's contract will end next season. From Mirror, the coach wants to work with him for few years again, but he can't refused if Thiago want to leave. Look like Livepool got a green light from Bayren if they really want Thiago.
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Bayern Munich open for bid if Liverpool really want to buy Thiago Alcantara. The rumor mentioned if the price of Thiago is around £31 million. For now, there is no official offer for this players. Thiago's contract will end next season. From Mirror, the coach wants to work with him for few years again, but he can't refused if Thiago want to leave. Look like Livepool got a green light from Bayren if they really want Thiago.
A few minutes ago new announcement from Bayern that they are ready to sell Thiago for any fair price its mean now Liverpool receiving green light they can talk and take this person from Allianz Arena for Anfield in this window.
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Bayern Munich open for bid if Liverpool really want to buy Thiago Alcantara. The rumor mentioned if the price of Thiago is around £31 million. For now, there is no official offer for this players. Thiago's contract will end next season. From Mirror, the coach wants to work with him for few years again, but he can't refused if Thiago want to leave. Look like Livepool got a green light from Bayren if they really want Thiago.
A few minutes ago new announcement from Bayern that they are ready to sell Thiago for any fair price its mean now Liverpool receiving green light they can talk and take this person from Allianz Arena for Anfield in this window. I think if Liverpool buys him it is a great move for them.They need a player like him because he is critical in the midfield and also he can be a really good upgrade for trying to win the Champions League the upcoming season.I think they will easily win the Premier League again as I think they are the most stable team in the Premier League with the most consistent results.
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I think if Liverpool buys him it is a great move for them.They need a player like him because he is critical in the midfield and also he can be a really good upgrade for trying to win the Champions League the upcoming season.I think they will easily win the Premier League again as I think they are the most stable team in the Premier League with the most consistent results.
Alcantara can be a good substitute for J Milner. He is not strong as Milner but he has better skill to control the game and distribute ball possesion to his teammates and create opportunities for forwards. It might depend on the result of Champions League, Bayer will win the trophy, and Alcantara will stay at Bayern. I know the position of Alcantara is competed by Kimmich but who knows what he think of Bayern, his chances and Liverpool, Premier League. There are successful Spanish players in Premier League and they can be good motivation for Thiago.
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No. I mean this topic is to discuss EPL related stuff, maybe FA Cup too or even a game involving one of EPL teams but certainly not to turn it to a discussion about La Liga/Serie A players and teams unless there is a transfer or something related to EPL. There is a dedicated topic for each league, including Champions and Europa leagues..
I'm a little funny, seeing some of the comments above , because I think it's off topic, LaLiga on the EPL tread, LOL😂.
~snip~ BTW Willian quits Chelsea and Liverpool gonna sign with Kostas Tsimikas from olympiacos (left-back)
Interesting about Willian's transfer, the latest news Willian remains in the Premier League this season and he will go to Arsenal, despite offers from Everton and MLS, strong rumors of Willian chose Arsenal. Looking at Willian's age at 31, I think it was Chelsea's decision to regenerate. If I see his game I am very happy, because willian is a hard worker that he can play in several positions such as Right Wing, Left Wing and Attacking Midfielder Source: https://www.transfermarkt.com/willian-to-join-arsenal-joorabchian-quot-had-offer-from-mls-quot-/view/news/367035
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