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August 11, 2015, 09:29:20 AM Last edit: April 09, 2016, 01:41:53 PM by BitBatFan |
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I created a dice comparsion sheet that will be updated: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1APWo6ENbjFgl1ECw52vU5yOZewB-YJSM3LC0QxPetbc/edit?usp=sharing]I wasn't able to find all info from websites, so if there's a question mark and you know the answer just post in this thread. It's possible that some of the data is incorrect. If I made an error, please notify me and I'll fix it. Added are websites that are at least few months old and have some decent amount wagered (only Bitcoin websites!)
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twister
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August 11, 2015, 01:27:07 PM Last edit: August 11, 2015, 01:41:16 PM by twister |
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Nice list. You get an 'A' for the effort. I don't know if anything is inaccurate or not but I hope you can carry the same enthusiasm to keep it updated with which you started this. As for '?' Betterbets uses Moneypot and afaik Deposits need one confirmation before you're allowed to play and Withdrawals will be instant and the Withdrawal fee would be 10k Satoshi. There is something here about their Max win : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1065847.420And here's where they explain their referral program: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1065847.msg11828467#msg11828467
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August 11, 2015, 02:11:41 PM |
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Good list. Rollin's max profit/win is 5.1 BTC.
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BitBatFan (OP)
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August 11, 2015, 05:49:05 PM |
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Thank you both. Spreadsheet updated.
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August 11, 2015, 06:11:28 PM |
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Interesting work, thanks for sharing this with the community. Must have taken a while to compile all the information. What's your personal favourite dice site to play on?
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August 11, 2015, 06:19:17 PM |
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Your work is appreciable and it speaks by itself how much knowledge someone can acquire about any of the listed famous dice site without any effort. Keep up awesome work mate !
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Lutpin
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August 11, 2015, 06:32:56 PM |
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I wasn't able to find all info from websites, so if there's a question mark and you know the answer just post in this thread. It's possible that some of the data is incorrect. If I made an error, please notify me and I'll fix it. Added are websites that are at least few months old and have some decent amount wagered (only Bitcoin websites!)
Nice sheet you put up there, I appreciate the effort taken into doing this. It's not an error, but something outdated. Crypto-Games.net max win is now set to 0.45 BTC Lutpin
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vendetahome
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August 11, 2015, 06:42:04 PM |
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thats a cool comparison you made, i am pretty sure it helps people to choose where to gamble their bitcoins and what is the best dice game out in the bitcoin world
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98problems
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August 11, 2015, 07:03:39 PM |
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thank you for such an informative table that you did, did it take a lot of time for you in order to gather all this information? i will definitely use it in the future
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August 11, 2015, 07:56:44 PM |
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sherbyspark
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August 11, 2015, 08:17:42 PM |
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Seems you are also missing some other dice sites like Dicenow, Directbet also Peerbet.
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August 11, 2015, 08:24:37 PM |
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I also don't see just-dice.com
I am not a fan or something but i know they are popular. You may want to update your sheet. Other than that "A+" Thanks.
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August 11, 2015, 09:11:56 PM Last edit: August 11, 2015, 09:26:34 PM by arallmuus |
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I kinda wonder what is the difference between 1 confirmation withdrawal and instant withdrawal? Saw some sites listed instant while some listed with 1 confirmation which is pretty weird. Almost every sites require your funds to have atleast 1 confirmation before you can withdraw and that is pretty normal. Instan withdrawal on the other hands means that once you click the withdrawal button, you will be shown with the withdrawal TX ID or atleast see the coins are instantly transferred without any delay Few incorrect data that you need to fix : #1. FortuneJack withdrawal is not literally "instant" because sometimes it may take over 10 seconds to see that the coins has been transfer. It is indeed a pretty small waiting time but it is indeed not "instant" #2. House edge for BetterBets should be 0.1 - 1.0 % . Luck forging system on the site makes the site has 0.1 % house edge #3. Withdrawal for moneypot's apps is not set to use 0.0001 BTC as the standard withdrawal fee References : It's currently using bitcoin-core 0.11's default dynamic fees, which has a goal to be confirmed within two blocks. Most of the time it works very well, even when block-explorers say otherwise. I've experimented with using the results of estimate-priority 1, however it's quite unstable and often leads to paying x3 as much fees as required. #4. You made a mistake by typing "max numer of bets per second" should be number instead of numer. Apart from that, not sure how did you measure the speed of the rolls but you should have gotten more than 7 rolls per second in BetterBets #5. Max profit for BetterBets is 1x kelly of Moneypot's bankroll so at the time I posted this , it is around 3.23 BTCReferences : https://www.moneypot.com/investment
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sherbyspark
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August 11, 2015, 09:21:11 PM |
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I also don't see just-dice.com
I am not a fan or something but i know they are popular. You may want to update your sheet. Other than that "A+" Thanks.
I believe the list is only bitcoin dice sites and since Just-dice is CLAM based now, so it probably the reason why its not listed.
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August 11, 2015, 09:34:38 PM |
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What is the meaning of the withdrawal column? Most sites say "instant" in there, but others say 2 confirmations (crypto-games) or 1 confirmation (3 of em towards the bottom). If someone sends a bitcoin transaction to you, it's up to you and your wallet software what you try to do with this. I don't understand at all how a site could delay you trying to spend bitcoins they've already sent you. Can you explain this column?
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August 11, 2015, 09:55:57 PM |
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Some sites don't let you withdraw, unless your last deposit has had N confirmations.
It's designed to protect against people splitting the network with multiple conflicting transactions (with the hope miners mine 1, and the site sees the other). It's really just mainly useful when you want to allow 0-conf deposits, but want some rudimentary protection against double spending. It's been exploited a lot in the past though, when people make an instant deposit. Then immediately do a bet. If the bet fails, attempt to split the network, otherwise let it confirm as normal. So most sites tend to go with the safer, require N confirmations before crediting your account
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Check out gamblingsitefinder.com for a decent list/rankings of crypto casinos. Note: I have no affiliation or interest in it, and don't even agree with all the rankings ... but it's the only uncorrupted review site I'm aware of.
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sherbyspark
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August 11, 2015, 09:59:47 PM |
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What is the meaning of the withdrawal column? Most sites say "instant" in there, but others say 2 confirmations (crypto-games) or 1 confirmation (3 of em towards the bottom). If someone sends a bitcoin transaction to you, it's up to you and your wallet software what you try to do with this. I don't understand at all how a site could delay you trying to spend bitcoins they've already sent you. Can you explain this column?
From what I understand it seems to be the number of confirmations the site requires to process the withdrawals and put them through. Sites which say instant, seem to require 1 confirmation for the deposit, so players will anyways be withdrawing after 1 confirmation, hence they are going to be instant. Sites which have instant in the deposits probably require 1 confirmation so as to process those withdrawals. But it definitely is confusing in cases like pocketdice.
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August 11, 2015, 10:09:11 PM |
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Some sites don't let you withdraw, unless your last deposit has had N confirmations.
It's designed to protect against people splitting the network with multiple conflicting transactions (with the hope miners mine 1, and the site sees the other). It's really just mainly useful when you want to allow 0-conf deposits, but want some rudimentary protection against double spending. It's been exploited a lot in the past though, when people make an instant deposit. Then immediately do a bet. If the bet fails, attempt to split the network, otherwise let it confirm as normal. So most sites tend to go with the safer, require N confirmations before crediting your account
What is the meaning of the withdrawal column? Most sites say "instant" in there, but others say 2 confirmations (crypto-games) or 1 confirmation (3 of em towards the bottom). If someone sends a bitcoin transaction to you, it's up to you and your wallet software what you try to do with this. I don't understand at all how a site could delay you trying to spend bitcoins they've already sent you. Can you explain this column?
From what I understand it seems to be the number of confirmations the site requires to process the withdrawals and put them through. Sites which say instant, seem to require 1 confirmation for the deposit, so players will anyways be withdrawing after 1 confirmation, hence they are going to be instant. Sites which have instant in the deposits probably require 1 confirmation so as to process those withdrawals. But it definitely is confusing in cases like pocketdice. Okay, RHavar and sherbyspark, that explains it. It's the number of confirmations required on a deposit in order to be able to withdrawal it (or presumably, any winnings from it). This makes sense, cheers and thanks.
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bitbaby
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August 12, 2015, 06:59:46 AM |
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You should take a look at this website: http://dicesites.com/ It has a lot of information and stats on different dice sites and it stays auto updated, I think you'll find some of your answers there and you can list more sites on your list which are on that site but not on your list. If you can put this onto a website and put effort into it, it will look a little better than a spreadsheet and you can make something of your hobby.
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August 12, 2015, 07:15:29 AM |
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You should take a look at this website: http://dicesites.com/ It has a lot of information and stats on different dice sites and it stays auto updated, I think you'll find some of your answers there and you can list more sites on your list which are on that site but not on your list. If you can put this onto a website and put effort into it, it will look a little better than a spreadsheet and you can make something of your hobby. yep, Nicos site is better, live updating and more correct/user-friendly than OPs google doc. just had a brief look, at least two errors on safedice alone. HE is max at 10% not 50 . and there is indeed a trollbox on the bottom right of the site, click on the little green circle to enlarge.
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