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August 13, 2015, 12:44:33 PM |
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Sheesh, also "It was reported that eight hours after the explosion, Tianjin Television Satellite Channel had not reported on the incident and are reportedly awaiting permission to cover the incident" They need permission to cover their news... crazy. Centralized Power of the people's republic of...
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August 13, 2015, 12:51:19 PM |
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Apocalyptic aftermath of Chinese warehouse explosion which left at least 44 dead: Blasts were so big they registered as earthquakesAt least 44 people killed, more than 500 injured and 36 firefighters missing after massive blasts in Tianjin, China Two blasts erupted in warehouse shipment of explosives at about 11.30pm local time, with blast felt miles away Dramatic videos of the explosion show flames erupting into the night sky as residents told how windows shattered http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3195477/Fifty-people-injured-enormous-blast-explosives-shipment-hits-Chinese-city.html------------------------------ Only 44 dead?
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August 13, 2015, 01:26:34 PM |
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the fire started at around 10:50PM and the huge explosion happened approximately 40 minutes later. I think that's long enough for any bystanders to get their ass off the place. also the blast site is located in the middle of containers and port buildings and a huge parking lot (and is near the sea).
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August 13, 2015, 01:28:20 PM |
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the fire started at around 10:50PM and the huge explosion happened approximately 40 minutes later. I think that's long enough for any bystanders to get their ass off the place. also the blast site is located in the middle of containers and port buildings and a huge parking lot (and is near the sea). The Chinese News Network is not famous for its truth telling...
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August 13, 2015, 02:30:56 PM |
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Yeah, 44 dead...I'm not buying that either. In a statement, the environmental group Greenpeace said it feared that the danger was not over.
"We are concerned that certain chemicals will continue to pose a risk to the residents of Tianjin," the statement said.
"According to the Tianjin Tanggu Environmental Monitoring Station, hazardous chemicals stored by the company concerned include sodium cyanide (NaCN), toluene diisocyanate (TDI) and calcium carbide (CaC2), all of which pose direct threats to human health on contact. NaCN in particular is highly toxic. Ca(C2) and TDI react violently with water and reactive chemicals, with risk of explosion. This will present a challenge for firefighting and, with rain forecast for tomorrow, is a major hazard," Greenpeace said.
http://www.cnn.com/2015/08/13/asia/china-tianjin-explosions/
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August 13, 2015, 02:46:40 PM |
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Yeah, 44 dead...I'm not buying that either. In a statement, the environmental group Greenpeace said it feared that the danger was not over.
"We are concerned that certain chemicals will continue to pose a risk to the residents of Tianjin," the statement said.
"According to the Tianjin Tanggu Environmental Monitoring Station, hazardous chemicals stored by the company concerned include sodium cyanide (NaCN), toluene diisocyanate (TDI) and calcium carbide (CaC2), all of which pose direct threats to human health on contact. NaCN in particular is highly toxic. Ca(C2) and TDI react violently with water and reactive chemicals, with risk of explosion. This will present a challenge for firefighting and, with rain forecast for tomorrow, is a major hazard," Greenpeace said.
http://www.cnn.com/2015/08/13/asia/china-tianjin-explosions/Thanks for posting that. I was interested in what chemicals were going to be released... I can see this being really bad.
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August 13, 2015, 03:02:53 PM |
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21 tons is not actually huge. Big boom yes, but there have been a lot of bigger blasts down the years - NOT counting atomic. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Largest_artificial_non-nuclear_explosions Look at the explosion that leveled Halifax, Canada - estimated at a bit under 3 THOUSAND of tons of TnT equivilent - this was generally considered to be the largest man-caused explosion for many years. The Port Chicago explosion has some interesting conspiracy theory around it that it was actually a small nuke test, mostly caused by a few folks from the Manhattan Project being involved in the investigation. For comparison, the Hiroshima and Nagasaki nukes were both in the 10 to 20 KILOton TnT equivilent range - about 2-3 times the effect of the N1 launch explosion. When Krakatoa went off, though, that explosion has been estimated in the 200 MEGAton range - bigger than ANY nuke ever detonated by about 4 times. THAT was a huge explosion - but there have been bigger in nature.
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August 13, 2015, 03:04:33 PM Last edit: August 14, 2015, 02:57:40 PM by QuintLeo |
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I wouldn't bet on the 44 dead being correct - but industrial/warehouse area and it appeared to be night when the blast occured, so it's possible.
(edit) Official figure is up to 50 as of the last I saw.
On the other hand, that's an official figure reported by the Chinese, who are NOT exactly well known for "truth in news reporting"....
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August 13, 2015, 03:07:13 PM |
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Omg, that pictures with hundreds of cars destroyed broke my heart. So many money lost, it is a miracle than only less than 50 people are dead. If this explosion wasn't in China I would call it a terrorist attack but knowing how Chinese are not really primal example of good Occupational Health and Safety at work I think probably some worker was smoking cigarettes near that TNT cargo.
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August 13, 2015, 04:22:27 PM |
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Omg, that pictures with hundreds of cars destroyed broke my heart. So many money lost, it is a miracle than only less than 50 people are dead. If this explosion wasn't in China I would call it a terrorist attack but knowing how Chinese are not really primal example of good Occupational Health and Safety at work I think probably some worker was smoking cigarettes near that TNT cargo.
no, i suppose summer hot temperature there making chemical cargo on fire
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August 13, 2015, 04:28:38 PM |
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I saw this on news just a few minutes ago. It's really bad and I hope they recover soon:(
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August 13, 2015, 07:11:06 PM |
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This particular video is crazy... you can actually see the shock wave rip everything apart as it moves towards him.
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August 13, 2015, 07:36:26 PM |
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Yanno, this is kinda of a bad thing to happen, with recent Chinese activity in the South China Sea and while reading "Red Storm Rising".....
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August 13, 2015, 10:12:38 PM |
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The blasts were more powerful than the Horoshima and Nagasaki bombs, but without nuclear effects(and some pictures make it really looks like a nuclear attack anyway)
waiting to know what caused it
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August 14, 2015, 03:10:55 AM |
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damn that's scary as hell
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August 14, 2015, 09:31:43 AM |
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The blasts were more powerful than the Horoshima and Nagasaki bombs, but without nuclear effects(and some pictures make it really looks like a nuclear attack anyway)
No. Not even close. There wouldn't BE a city left if the blasts had been even close to the power of the Hiroshima or Nagasaki bombs. Either bomb drop leveled square MILES of the city it was dropped over, not blocks.
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August 14, 2015, 01:10:31 PM |
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Terrible explosion, miraculously only 44 people died, although likely more people die from the consequences of the explosion
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