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October 11, 2012, 01:06:10 AM
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It's bad enough they throw up a paywall in front of their docs - but to funnel it via a 'donate with Visa/Mastercard' button?

Wikileaks doesn't even mention Bitcoin on their 'Banking Blockade' page either.


I'm not so keen to throw any BTC their way any more.

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October 11, 2012, 01:26:30 AM
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I hate to break this everyone, but Wikileaks is a disinfo operation now.
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October 11, 2012, 02:41:30 AM
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I hate to break this everyone, but Wikileaks is a disinfo operation now.

Yo dog, we heard you like conspiracies, so we put a conspiracy in your conspiracy so you can suspect while you're suspicious.
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October 11, 2012, 02:46:16 AM
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Yo dog, we heard you like conspiracies, so we put a conspiracy in your conspiracy so you can suspect while you're suspicious.

Very entertaining.

Meanwhile, Mastercard and Visa are happily accepted at Wikileaks while Bitcoin isn't.

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October 11, 2012, 03:01:17 AM
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I hate to break this everyone, but Wikileaks is a disinfo operation now.

Yo dog, we heard you like conspiracies, so we put a conspiracy in your conspiracy so you can suspect while you're suspicious.

They probably wont leak any more banking malfeasance since they are now relying on that for support.

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October 11, 2012, 03:21:45 AM
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/thread.

Seriously though, they must have just been doing some maintenance or something, how long was the bitcoin donation option down again?
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October 11, 2012, 03:25:51 AM
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/thread.

Seriously though, they must have just been doing some maintenance or something, how long was the bitcoin donation option down again?

It was never down.

Its a shame that wikileaks did this on purpose.

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October 11, 2012, 07:14:03 AM
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WTF are you guys talking about? I'm not seeing any paywall anywhere, and the donate page has a Bitcoin address, same as it always did.

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October 11, 2012, 07:41:54 AM
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WOW! 1.6M Twitter followers. I'm willing to bet that a many of them at the very least saw the Bitcoin option on their donation page.

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October 11, 2012, 10:25:52 AM
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Maybe. But all it takes is that the mainstream media selectively report little tidbits out of context. I've seen several British noisepaper stories where they sneak in some one-line quote and attribute it to Wikileaks, hoping that readers will swallow the whole article as gospel.

One of Julian's original supporters/advisors (and owner of cryptome.org), John Young, also states that Wikileaks is disinfo:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Pqk_j8-WQw
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October 11, 2012, 12:27:04 PM
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In that Youtube vid he also called it "a good organization".

Well, he was one of co-founders and owned the domain name. Wink

I remembered Assange as the guy that released Strobe back in the 90's. It was one of my favorite toys.  I lurked the cypherpunks list but never posted. When he became Julian Assange:Ace Reporter, I kind of quit paying attention to him and the following that he was cultivating.

John Young's website still does a better and more consistent job of forcing transparency on centralized power structures. He hasn't tried to turn it into a cash cow like Julian did with wikileaks.


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October 11, 2012, 10:52:37 PM
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WTF are you guys talking about? I'm not seeing any paywall anywhere, and the donate page has a Bitcoin address, same as it always did.

Yes I know the donate page has a Bitcoin address as always (sad that it's not more prominent - but at least it's there)


This thread was about the paywall which *was* in place in front of actual document downloads.
It's been removed now. Possibly partly because many people were going apoplectic about it on twitter etc.

Wikileaks has tweeted:
"A tweet, share, wait or donate campaign is not a "paywall". You can read about our blockade and funding systems here: shop.wikileaks.org/donate "

This strikes me as dishonest - because when the wall was in place - it really did funnel you to a button for CC donation before you could proceed.
(well - apparently you could still get docs for free by disabling javascript)

There were no 'tweet share or wait' options at the time I looked at it - and no option to use Bitcoin (or any other payment method than CC) to proceed.

edit: There is an image of it in this article about the whole thing:
http://www.theatlanticwire.com/global/2012/10/wikileaks-implements-paywall-anonymous-does-not-approve/57839/

It even had pics of credit cards in the background - It almost looked like an advertisement for visa/mastercard. 




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October 11, 2012, 11:07:47 PM
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Yo dog, we heard you like conspiracies, so we put a conspiracy in your conspiracy so you can suspect while you're suspicious.

Very entertaining.


I thought it was pretty clever, myself.  Wink
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