Big block support observer

[knight22]

And now Bitstamp can be added to the pile.

https://www.reddit.com/r/btc/comments/3utza9/bitstamp_supports_bip_101_and_will_switch_systems/

[Lauda]

That doesn't really matter and I don't really care. Without miners it is pointless. As long as they don't support the CEO implementation of Bitcoin all is good.

[knight22]

That doesn't really matter and I don't really care. Without miners it is pointless. As long as they don't support the CEO implementation of Bitcoin all is good.

It does matter and you should care. If the industry decide to fork then miners will follow if they want to continue to sell their coins on the market. The economic majority matters, not miners. You should know better than that.

[BitcoinNewsMagazine]

That doesn't really matter and I don't really care. Without miners it is pointless. As long as they don't support the CEO implementation of Bitcoin all is good.

It does matter and you should care. If the industry decide to fork then miners will follow if they want to continue to sell their coins on the market. The economic majority matters, not miners. You should know better than that.

You may be underestimating the intelligence of bitcoin miners and pool operators. Companies like Coinbase posturing about using an alternate client really does make no difference. Only miners choose if a hard fork will occur and I think you can count on them to act in their own best interests long term.

[knight22]

That doesn't really matter and I don't really care. Without miners it is pointless. As long as they don't support the CEO implementation of Bitcoin all is good.

It does matter and you should care. If the industry decide to fork then miners will follow if they want to continue to sell their coins on the market. The economic majority matters, not miners. You should know better than that.

You may be underestimating the intelligence of bitcoin miners and pool operators. Companies like Coinbase posturing about using an alternate client really does make no difference. Only miners choose if a hard fork will occur and I think you can count on them to act in their own best interests long term.

And what is stopping them to fork and mine their own chain? Nothing. 

[Lauda]

It does matter and you should care. If the industry decide to fork then miners will follow if they want to continue to sell their coins on the market. The economic majority matters, not miners. You should know better than that.

You're forgetting the fact that without a fork, the miners will still be able to sell their coins on exchanges. They don't have to follow anyone.

[Denker]

And now Bitstamp can be added to the pile.

https://www.reddit.com/r/btc/comments/3utza9/bitstamp_supports_bip_101_and_will_switch_systems/

Please don't try to bring that stupid discussion here to the forum.
Don't take this personal but I think it isn't funny to start everytime the same debate again.
We will have the scaling conference in a few days and then we all will be a bit smarter how things will continue.

[Amph]

miners does not really need to sell on exchange, they can always sell privately, i'm sure that there are many that are willing to buy the so "worthless BIPxx" coins

miners are the backbone of bitcoin, they come first than anything else

[Mickeyb]

And now Bitstamp can be added to the pile.

https://www.reddit.com/r/btc/comments/3utza9/bitstamp_supports_bip_101_and_will_switch_systems/

I guess that this discussion is heating up again. 6th December is also very soon! Here we go again fellas, hope this time this will be solved and over with!

[iCEBREAKER]

And now Bitstamp can be added to the pile.

https://www.reddit.com/r/btc/comments/3utza9/bitstamp_supports_bip_101_and_will_switch_systems/

Q. How many blocks does Bitstamp mine in an avg two week period?

A.  Zero.  None.  Zilch.

[iCEBREAKER]

And now Bitstamp can be added to the pile.

https://www.reddit.com/r/btc/comments/3utza9/bitstamp_supports_bip_101_and_will_switch_systems/

Q. How many blocks does Bitstamp mine in an avg two week period?

A.  Zero.  None.  Zilch.

Here I am, necromancing the "Big block support observer" thread from last year.

I observe that big block support is #rekt.   

And where is knight22?  Ashamed to show his face in public, logging in but not posting.

Aww poor thing.  Did the mean old iCEBREAKER crush you under 75,000 horsepower of nuclear-turbo-electric force?

[onemorexmr]

And now Bitstamp can be added to the pile.

https://www.reddit.com/r/btc/comments/3utza9/bitstamp_supports_bip_101_and_will_switch_systems/

Q. How many blocks does Bitstamp mine in an avg two week period?

A.  Zero.  None.  Zilch.

Here I am, necromancing the "Big block support observer" thread from last year.

I observe that big block support is #rekt.   

And where is knight22?  Ashamed to show his face in public, logging in but not posting.

Aww poor thing.  Did the mean old iCEBREAKER crush you under 75,000 horsepower of nuclear-turbo-electric force?

what i dont understand about you iCEBREAKER: why are you supporting monero?
do you know that miners control the blocksize there? (it has a penalty if they grow a block too much though)

how can you support a coin with bigger blocks and at the same time be against a blocksize change for bitcoin?

[watashi-kokoto]

Big blocks: REKT

[iCEBREAKER]

what i dont understand about you iCEBREAKER: why are you supporting monero?
do you know that miners control the blocksize there? (it has a penalty if they grow a block too much though)

how can you support a coin with bigger blocks and at the same time be against a blocksize change for bitcoin?

Bitcoin is the One True Blockchain, destined to be the Mother of All Settlement Networks (high-powered money for inter-bank lending).

Experiments with blocksize, etc. belong on the alts, not imposed by governance coup and social pressure on BTC.  Changing control variables in the middle of an experiment is bad science.

As marginal users are priced out of BTC, alts provide the same services with right-sized blocks.

You would already know this if you followed my prolific posting throughout last year's Grand Schism; see them for more details.

Especially this one:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=941331.msg10401014#msg10401014

and these two:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=941331.msg10392435#msg10392435

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=941331.msg10392532#msg10392532

[iCEBREAKER]

And now Bitstamp can be added to the pile.

https://www.reddit.com/r/btc/comments/3utza9/bitstamp_supports_bip_101_and_will_switch_systems/

Q. How many blocks does Bitstamp mine in an avg two week period?

A.  Zero.  None.  Zilch.

Here I am, necromancing the "Big block support observer" thread from last year.

I observe that big block support is #rekt.  

And where is knight22?  Ashamed to show his face in public, logging in but not posting.

Aww poor thing.  Did the mean old iCEBREAKER crush you under 75,000 horsepower of nuclear-turbo-electric force?

Oh good, I see knight22 has finally been discharged from the burn ward and is able to again post here on Theymos's humble forum.

Just in time, too.  The Toominista insurgency is floundering, and there is much doubt that late game white-knighting by Gavin can save it from the fate of XT (ie, being a laughingstock and warning to all future hard forkers).